VirusPunk
Sep 22 2005, 05:08 AM
I think it was a giant Camel Spider...
isis-999
Sep 22 2005, 05:14 AM
It was the men of egypt who built them, and no one else...
wabbit
Sep 22 2005, 05:16 AM

with Isis, cuz she knows all that stuff about Egypt and I trust her word on this...
Yelekiah
Sep 22 2005, 05:20 AM
You know it's weird that the Egyptians discuss almost everything in hieroglyphics: daily life, makeup, agriculture. But there are two things I know they don't describe. Their music and how they built the pyramids.
What an inconvenience to scholars, lol. However, isis-999 is a smart gal.
And so were the Egyptians. I'm sure they built the pyramids.
Rainbow Rowan
Sep 22 2005, 05:21 AM
I have a theory that I mentioned in one of the other strands. I think that it is proven by the Eye of Ra above the pyramid (masonic symbol) that appears on the US dollar note.
I think it proves that :
1. The 'all-seeing-eye' is actually a highly conscious alien or supercomputer that resides in a disc-shaped UFO or sun-disk.
2. The alien's eyes are like ours (perhaps the 'greys' are their humanoid robots)
3. They built the pyramids.
After reviewing much research into ancient topics, spiritual topics and UFO topics, I have come to the conclusion that the aliens created us through the genetic code, which could not have just spontaneously appeared or arrived through a meteorite.
They are what we now class as God, but check out all of our cultural legends and see that the creators came from the sky...
There are also too many similarities in the world, eg: the zodiac symbols.
isis-999
Sep 22 2005, 05:30 AM
Dear there is only problem with that, the eye is not Ra's it's Horus and it was tore out by Seth his uncle who killed his father Osirius, during a battle after which Horus riped Seth man hood from him thus making sure he could not carry on the family, By the way ISIS was wife of Osirius and mother of Horus...And the eye on the dollar is not from egyptian mythology. Its a masonic dear which is in no way tied to egypt..
I would be glad to explain more if you need me too...

Also if you read about Sumarian history, you see where the true God of man can from.. he was not a alien but a Babylon lord.. Have you ever read the king's list going back even before the upper and lower kingdom's joined into one land?
wabbit
Sep 22 2005, 05:32 AM
QUOTE(isis-999 @ Sep 22 2005, 01:30 AM) [snapback]856287[/snapback]
Dear there is only problem with that, the eye is not Ra's it's Horus and it was tore out by Seth his uncle who killed his father Osirius, during a battle after which Horus riped Seth man hood from him thus making sure he could not carry on the family, By the way ISIS was wife of Osirius and mother of Horus...And the eye on the dollar is not from egyptian mythology. Its a masonic dear which is in no way tied to egypt..
I would be glad to explain more if you need me too...

I told you she knew her stuff! ^5, Isis
isis-999
Sep 22 2005, 05:41 AM
Hi wabbit... It is sad so many people do not realize egypt was built by men..For the soul reason of making there Gods happy, It was a way for the king to give work to the people, during the dry season's. It helped join a nation and make them strong.. You build for the God's to please them, Not because your a off cast of the suppose Gray's. What would be the point if you can travel light year's thur space you don't need to build large stone pyraminds, there is just no point..
marsha28
Sep 22 2005, 09:35 AM
The slaves in Egypt, poor men. I think that was what they did for heir whole lives!!
Rainbow Rowan
Sep 22 2005, 09:39 AM
Isis 999, I find it rather sad that you seem to know so much on your subject but relatively little on other subjects. You think that you know everything - yet, I have a question, WHO ARE THE GODS who the Egyptians built the pyramids for?? Explain them in detail to me, and not just their names, and I might see that you have something new to offer...
Yelekiah
Sep 22 2005, 09:39 AM
No, slaves did NOT build the pyramids.
That's Hollywood fiction.
http://www.harvard-magazine.com/on-line/070391.html
thebarman
Sep 22 2005, 10:02 AM
I just recently returned from Egypt and one thing did strike me as odd.
How come Egyptians thousands and thousands of years ago could build something as phenomenally impressive as the pyramids yet modern day Egyptians can't even get their pavement straight, what's up with that
GreyWeather
Sep 22 2005, 10:11 AM
they were built by the loyal people of the pharoah. and in return, he fed them and gave them drink, for free. also he gave them good sleeping quarters (sp?)
no slaves were involved (or perhaps a few, im not sure) only the loyal people of the pharoah built the pyramids.
isis-999
Sep 22 2005, 11:38 AM
QUOTE(Rainbow Rowan @ Sep 22 2005, 04:39 AM) [snapback]856470[/snapback]
Isis 999, I find it rather sad that you seem to know so much on your subject but relatively little on other subjects. You think that you know everything - yet, I have a question, WHO ARE THE GODS who the Egyptians built the pyramids for?? Explain them in detail to me, and not just their names, and I might see that you have something new to offer...
You are so funny dear.. The gods list is so long i will not fall into that trap.. Look there are a great deal of people who who know the egyptians built to please there Gods who would be the ruleing king at the time. You are trying to make me look foolish but i do believe your going to have a very hard time at that... The pharaoh was the living God who ruled the land, What they built would be to please him, thus meaning what ever God he worship. You do know they changed by ruler's correct. Pharaoh's had great temple's built to show there power, their willness to please Oisrius, Isis, Anbus, the list is so long.. May be you should read more then try again..
Oh Liliel, your correct slaves did not build the pyramids, It was a honor for the people to build these temples. The Gods would be pleased and the Pharaoh would be stronger, thus making sure the people and the land would have food and with food the army was strong! it's all tied together to make the whole counrty strong.
Stixxman
Sep 22 2005, 02:09 PM
I've always thought that humans built the pyramids but I disagree as to which humans built them. I still think that out there there is a missing chapter to human history.
Stixxman
Sep 22 2005, 02:11 PM
I agree the humans built the pyramids but I disgree on which humans built them. I still think that there is a missing chapter in human history to be discovered yet.
Mr Ed
Sep 22 2005, 02:12 PM
I am confused as to why you are unsure who built the pyramids when it was obvious the Egyptians did. If would be cool if you explained it, I am interested.
Stixxman
Sep 22 2005, 02:19 PM
Oh I'm not unsure at all about this, there is plenty of evidence still around, the only problem with my idea is that its just circumstantial evidence. But you know what I'm talking about here Mr Ed think of Marduk.
Nitetalon
Sep 22 2005, 03:39 PM
QUOTE(isis-999 @ Sep 21 2005, 11:30 PM) [snapback]856287[/snapback]
Dear there is only problem with that, the eye is not Ra's it's Horus and it was tore out by Seth his uncle who killed his father Osirius, during a battle after which Horus riped Seth man hood from him thus making sure he could not carry on the family, By the way ISIS was wife of Osirius and mother of Horus...And the eye on the dollar is not from egyptian mythology. Its a masonic dear which is in no way tied to egypt..
I would be glad to explain more if you need me too...

Also if you read about Sumarian history, you see where the true God of man can from.. he was not a alien but a Babylon lord.. Have you ever read the king's list going back even before the upper and lower kingdom's joined into one land?
Here.. Here. The Eye of Horus is commonly mistaken for the Eye of Ra. There are distictive charateristics of each if you know what you are looking for. The Eye of Horus is still commonly used in the occult today. Although the pyramids could have quite conceivably been built by the egyptians, I do believe they had "outside influence". Everyone wants to let the credit rest with extraterrestrials, but has anyone ever considered the fact that maybe an outside force beyond our knowledge and understanding had something to do with it. The Gods and Godessess' of Ancient Egypt were and still are quite powerful and influential.
GreyWeather
Sep 22 2005, 03:51 PM
if im not mistaken, the eye of horus was either the left or right eye, and the eye of Ra /Re the opposite.
or is that the eye of Ra is the left or right and the eye of Amun is the opposite (when
Ra/Re and Amun merged to become Amun-Ra/Re)

I remember reading about it, but its become hazy now...
QuantumE
Sep 22 2005, 04:53 PM
QUOTE(isis-999 @ Sep 22 2005, 01:14 AM) [snapback]856267[/snapback]
It was the men of egypt who built them, and no one else...

This is a quote from you Isis-999 in another topic....
"has anyone thought about the fact the egyptain were able to build the temples with technology we do not even have in the 21st centruy, and why do alot of the temple relives look like they are not really human but a mix of two races,"
Then you proceeded to say they came from mars etc.
So which is it?
link to topic:
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=42359
Nitetalon
Sep 22 2005, 06:02 PM
QUOTE(QuantumE @ Sep 22 2005, 10:53 AM) [snapback]856996[/snapback]
This is a quote from you Isis-999 in another topic....
"has anyone thought about the fact the egyptain were able to build the temples with technology we do not even have in the 21st centruy, and why do alot of the temple relives look like they are not really human but a mix of two races,"
Then you proceeded to say they came from mars etc.
So which is it?
link to topic:
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=42359I think she was diagreeing with that previous stated opinion. That the Egyptians were not from Mars.
Indy
Sep 22 2005, 06:29 PM
I agree with ISIS-999 and Mr. Ed, it is pretty obvious that the pyramids were built by the Egyptians.
Nobody ever questions weither or not the Roman Colosseum, the Parthenon in Greece, or other ancient structures/ruins were made by aliens, so why would the pyramids be?!
Yelekiah
Sep 22 2005, 06:33 PM
Because the pyramids are so much more phenomenal than what the Romans created. Much more mathematical involving degrees, etc. I still believe that the Egyptians built the pyramids despite this.
Nitetalon
Sep 22 2005, 06:35 PM
QUOTE(Indy @ Sep 22 2005, 12:29 PM) [snapback]857129[/snapback]
I agree with ISIS-999 and Mr. Ed, it is pretty obvious that the pyramids were built by the Egyptians.
Nobody ever questions weither or not the Roman Colosseum, the Parthenon in Greece, or other ancient structures/ruins were made by aliens, so why would the pyramids be?!
They wouldn't be. Someone even mentioned that Sci-Fi uncovered on old Russian operation called Project Isis, in which they discovered through the same imaging used to determine King Tut's face that the Great God Osiris was an alien.
Nitetalon
Sep 22 2005, 06:38 PM
That is the most ridiculous idea I have heard in a while!
Stixxman
Sep 22 2005, 07:03 PM
Some of the problems with acreditting the Egyptians with the pyramids is the timeline, to early in their empire to accomplish stuff like this. Also I got this idea from watching a show on the pyramids. Not many people know this but Cheops(Kufu for some) built another pyramid before he supposedly built the great pyramid. No body talks about it because compared to the great pyramid its awful. There are several design flaws and its only a fraction of the size. It resembles the pyramids built by the Ethiopians as well. Also the Egyptian rulers had a habbit of labeling everything they built to exalt their greatness after they shuffle off the mortal coil. This not true of the great pyramid, there are not gliphs claiming ownership by cheops. I think it might be possible that the great pyramid was built by a previuos civilization that was wiped out by some natural disaster. The egyptians come along and find this impressive structure and try to emulate this type of size and granduer. It might be possible.
Yelekiah
Sep 22 2005, 07:06 PM
Correct that it shows no ownership by Cheops. In fact, according to the Emerald Tablets, Thoth built the Great Pyramid. You know that stone "sarcophagus" in the Main Chamber? In the tablets it's even said to be akin to an initiation room. There is no evidence that Cheops built it, etc.
Heru
Sep 22 2005, 07:27 PM
QUOTE(isis-999 @ Sep 22 2005, 12:30 AM) [snapback]856287[/snapback]
Dear there is only problem with that, the eye is not Ra's it's Horus and it was tore out by Seth his uncle who killed his father Osirius, during a battle after which Horus riped Seth man hood from him thus making sure he could not carry on the family, By the way ISIS was wife of Osirius and mother of Horus...And the eye on the dollar is not from egyptian mythology. Its a masonic dear which is in no way tied to egypt..
I would be glad to explain more if you need me too...

Also if you read about Sumarian history, you see where the true God of man can from.. he was not a alien but a Babylon lord.. Have you ever read the king's list going back even before the upper and lower kingdom's joined into one land?
An eye is a symbol of power so the back of a dollar could have refernce but it depends on what the dollar eye means.
And egyption religion never died but before it became more pieced together there was alot of storys on heru and aset sometimes aset was the sister of wesir (dynasty Iv) sometimes she was the daughter of tehuti. Back then it wasnt a religion like christianity with this happened and this person is this, it changed depending on the diety of the city or village. Most gods took over other gods and the greeks and even romans messed with it alot. For instance the dismemberment of wesir(osiris) was by plutarch it was originaly a drowning. predyanastic heru wasnt even the son of wesir.
But anyway some of the papyri (think its petrie) Set tries to rape heru but he put his hand over his @$$ and caught sets semen showed it to aset. She cuts his hands off and gave him new ones. And took heru's semen and put it on the lettuce in sets garden and during the tribunal where set is accusing heru. We find out that set is pregnant and tehuti summons it as a golden disk and puts it on his brow. Which some think is the Wedjat eye (whole eye or healed eye).
Ive never read reference to heru cutting sets genitals off but theres alot of storys and different variations of the same story so im sure its written somewhere.
Theres even one where ra ruled earth and after becoming crazy rode a cow(goddess nut) whose legs kept growing and took him into the sky.
Lets just say the current religion doesnt believe in that one.
Heru
Sep 22 2005, 07:42 PM
QUOTE(Stixxman @ Sep 22 2005, 02:03 PM) [snapback]857185[/snapback]
Some of the problems with acreditting the Egyptians with the pyramids is the timeline, to early in their empire to accomplish stuff like this. Also I got this idea from watching a show on the pyramids. Not many people know this but Cheops(Kufu for some) built another pyramid before he supposedly built the great pyramid. No body talks about it because compared to the great pyramid its awful. There are several design flaws and its only a fraction of the size. It resembles the pyramids built by the Ethiopians as well. Also the Egyptian rulers had a habbit of labeling everything they built to exalt their greatness after they shuffle off the mortal coil. This not true of the great pyramid, there are not gliphs claiming ownership by cheops. I think it might be possible that the great pyramid was built by a previuos civilization that was wiped out by some natural disaster. The egyptians come along and find this impressive structure and try to emulate this type of size and granduer. It might be possible.
It might be; from nubian history. Nubians found it and took it from the inhabitants there, then a nomad group overthrew (more like stabed em in the back but we wont go there) them and that became what the greeks called egyptians. Ofcourse no one remembers the nubian pharoas even when they took back egypt for awhile.
Stixxman
Sep 22 2005, 08:31 PM
Thats why I think its easy to believe the history we know may be incomplete.
isis-999
Sep 22 2005, 10:15 PM
To the poster earlier, You are correct, as i said the question was asked to me some time ago, I thought it was funny so i posted it too see what other's thought.When the post was made i was a newbe and didn't really ask it the way i should have. Also people then did not know my stance on the subject so some thought i was serious. As i have millions of time, I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS.... It was only a question.
Stixxman.I see where you are going with your veiw. But my i point out one thing, they did not make them perfect the first few time's they made alot of mistakes..IE...The bent and Step PYraminds.this was a starting point for then, and they learned from there mistakes.
Yelekiah
Sep 22 2005, 10:20 PM
Yes, it went from 52 degrees to 42 or 43 degrees I think. Trial and error.
Rainbow Rowan
Sep 22 2005, 11:17 PM
I find it hard to swallow how there could have existed a civilisation 4500 years ago who acheived this feat when we cannot imagine how it was done today. I don't buy into the wood and ropes debate. The only wood available at the time was precious and expensive imported cypress and locally grown date and fig trees.
So what you want us to all beleive is that there was an earthly civilisation 4500years ago who was more technologically advanced than we are today??
I also have read that the sarcophagi found in the pyramids were never used for actual burial, and so used for rituals of initiating the new pharaoh, backed up by the pyramid texts. Any insights as to why the deceased pharaoh (Osiris) was then seen as Syrius and his son (Horus) was then moved into the role of pharaoh? What I am tying to ask is why use the stars as the next stage of life? Was there something that we don't know or currently accept (ie aliens as 'Gods')?
Yelekiah
Sep 22 2005, 11:19 PM
About the sarcophagus, I just said that earlier. Have you read the Emerald Tablets before. They're very shrouded in mystery.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Sep 22 2005, 11:23 PM
QUOTE(Rainbow Rowan @ Sep 22 2005, 06:17 PM) [snapback]857629[/snapback]
I find it hard to swallow how there could have existed a civilisation 4500 years ago who acheived this feat when we cannot imagine how it was done today. I don't buy into the wood and ropes debate. The only wood available at the time was precious and expensive imported cypress and locally grown date and fig trees.
So what you want us to all beleive is that there was an earthly civilisation 4500years ago who was more technologically advanced than we are today??
I also have read that the sarcophagi found in the pyramids were never used for actual burial, and so used for rituals of initiating the new pharaoh, backed up by the pyramid texts. Any insights as to why the deceased pharaoh (Osiris) was then seen as Syrius and his son (Horus) was then moved into the role of pharaoh? What I am tying to ask is why use the stars as the next stage of life? Was there something that we don't know or currently accept (ie aliens as 'Gods')?
Actually there have been very good theories on how it was built by humans. They built them over many, many years. Yes we could build them today if we wanted to. What would be the point. Everyone sells mankinds intellect short.
Yelekiah
Sep 22 2005, 11:25 PM
He's right. The Egyptians were not uncivilized barbarians. They performed surgery, built great structures, etc. I don't find it so hard to believe.
Osira
Sep 22 2005, 11:27 PM
QUOTE(Mr Ed @ Sep 22 2005, 04:12 AM) [snapback]856719[/snapback]
I am confused as to why you are unsure who built the pyramids when it was obvious the Egyptians did. If would be cool if you explained it, I am interested.
I beleive that the egyptians did build the pyramids with some sort of extra-terrestrial assistance. why do i think this you ask? Well the heaviest stone in the great pyramid of giza weighs 300,332 tons; and the most technologically advance crane that we have today can only lift 200,000 tons. And the rocks used to make the pyramids are found nowhere near Giza, in fact they're found hundreds of miles away. It dosen't seem plausable that the israelites would drag a 300,332 ton stone hundreds of miles across a dessert without wearing or even destroying the stone all together, and thats just the biggest stone! I'm not too sure how many stones are in the great pyramid itself, but I doubt the eqyptian slaves would be able to make that trek over and over again, without some kind of inter-planetary assitance.
and thats just moving the stones! There are many different ideas as to how the stones were cut... all of them cut at perfectly 90 degree angles, and no trace of faulty, broken, chipped, runt stones left behind anywhere. it appears that the stones were cut by some sort Laser. (Yeah I know its kind of far fetched) But listen! I heard that of all the pyramids in the world, (Egypt, Maya, China, Sumaria, and even Japan and the US )the majority of them were built to worship the sun gods. Ra for example. and all of the countries described the sun gods as blond hair blue eyes. (Possible reason for Hitler's Arian Supremacy. But that's for another thread) Perhaps the Sun gods came to these societies and taught them how to cut, and move large stones with the power of their minds. Nefertiti's Skull is almost three feet tall, King tut's skull is as soft as an infants skull meaning he had a very powerful crown chakra.
Anyways thats just stuff i put together from four of five different theories. Have a good one!
Yelekiah
Sep 22 2005, 11:31 PM
Have you read the Emerald Tablets, Osira? Or anyone for that matter?
Yelekiah
Sep 22 2005, 11:44 PM
All right, I'll take that as a no. It's a set of translations. And in there
it says that the stones of the pyramid were "changed and became very light and then after it was in place, changing it again" (but still "built by Egyptians)
Does that suggest changing "atomic structure"? Were they this advanced?
They were advanced period and didn't need help from outside forces.
They were performing plastic surgery perhaps 4,000 years ago.
http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/imhotep.htm Does this suggest that maybe we as humans were only going backwards? We lost knowledge? We certainly did after the Fall of the Roman Empire.
Rainbow Rowan
Sep 22 2005, 11:49 PM
There are many different threads within this forum with people who question 'accepted' history found in textbooks and who can see alien help throughout all of the worlds history. So I know it's not just me. Quoting from the textbooks to try to stamp out the questions are not going to stop us questioning!!
Like I mentioned in a previous entry, for those who want to check out a new 'truth', see the Rael website, then check out the bibles and world myths, and always continue to question. If we accept 'reality' as it is now then we really may have no chance to truly change things for the better on many levels in our world.
http://www.rael.org/ You can download the books for free. I am not trying to 'sell' any theory, but keep checking out everything and researching and searching for answers.
Yelekiah
Sep 22 2005, 11:52 PM
Oh I don't believe everything in history books, we're always learning something new. But the Ancient Egyptians were more advanced than we give them credit. Agree or disagree, Rainbow Rowan?
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Sep 22 2005, 11:54 PM
QUOTE(Rainbow Rowan @ Sep 22 2005, 06:49 PM) [snapback]857677[/snapback]
There are many different threads within this forum with people who question 'accepted' history found in textbooks and who can see alien help throughout all of the worlds history. So I know it's not just me. Quoting from the textbooks to try to stamp out the questions are not going to stop us questioning!!
Like I mentioned in a previous entry, for those who want to check out a new 'truth', see the Rael website, then check out the bibles and world myths, and always continue to question. If we accept 'reality' as it is now then we really may have no chance to truly change things for the better on many levels in our world.
http://www.rael.org/ You can download the books for free. I am not trying to 'sell' any theory, but keep checking out everything and researching and searching for answers.
I have one of the Rael books at home. He is a nutter for sure. I like the sex aspect of the religon though. Lot of sex going on at Rael camp.
Rainbow Rowan
Sep 23 2005, 12:00 AM
Lots of sex going on in your home, sir? Sex has been used as an empowering tool for centuries -tantric practices, wicca, alchemy, etc.
Any way, for the answer to the previous question, sure I can see that they were more advanced than we give them credit for, but more advanced than we are now? And what about our cranes not lifting the largest stones, and the angle of the pyramid just doesn't suit the theory of ramps leading upwards to drag the stones on??
Yelekiah
Sep 23 2005, 12:01 AM
All right, if you don't want to answer my questions, that's fine.
But bear in mind I've backed up my claim with sites. The Egyptians
were advanced. They built the pyramids. They say they built the pyramids. The first pyramid was built by Imhotep. Who BTW, was Egyptian.
Rainbow Rowan
Sep 23 2005, 12:02 AM
And what about copper tools cutting these huge blocks??
Yelekiah
Sep 23 2005, 12:03 AM
I spoke too soon, and obviously you didn't read my earlier post on the Emerald Tablets.
Rainbow Rowan
Sep 23 2005, 12:03 AM
sorry, mate I think we are both trying to reply to each other but are beating each other with the answers!!
Yelekiah
Sep 23 2005, 12:05 AM
Right.
Osira
Sep 23 2005, 12:07 AM
QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Sep 22 2005, 01:31 PM) [snapback]857649[/snapback]
Have you read the Emerald Tablets, Osira? Or anyone for that matter?
It seems like the people who wrote these books did alot of hallucinagins...That just means thses books will be rael easy for me to understand... Muahahaha!!
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