this site is a government propaganda ploy designed to manufacture a "straw man" for the purpose of flailing on(like a pinata)-- what hit the pentagon is no where near as important as "why" any aircraft at all was able to penetrate the most secure air space in the country 38 minutes after the "second" attack on the wtc that removed ant doubts of whether we were under attack or not--the plane that hit the pentagon was in all likely hood a remotely piloted 737 just like the ones used at the wtc complex(which have been identified using the detailed image from murray street as originating from a 737)--dont ask "what" hit the pentagon ask "WHY" anything hit it at all 38 minutes after we "KNEW" we were under attack with an airforce base only 14 min away--here is by far the best video demonstrating the evidence--its free

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heres more evidence--
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US Military Under Bush #1 Planned a WTC Attack!
Our own U.S. Army devised a plan commissioned by Congress in 76'(during 41's term) to bring down the WTC using commercial airliners and box cutters as weapons...link
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Popular Mechanics Editor who wrote the lies, Benjamin Chertoff, hid the fact that he is the cousin of Homeland Security Chief Micheal Chertoff
CIA and Homeland Security Take Over Popular Mechanics to spread lies and deception. Read how Senior Staff replaced with the Cousin of head of Homeland Security and then denied it.link
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Jim Hoffman's slide show on Building 7 which further debunks [Propaganda] Mechanics alleged "Debunking"
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quote from the company that certified the steel at wtc
"Jet Fuel could not have melted steel," Kevin Ryan of UL Labs to (NIST). link
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video is mightier than the pen--link

"what hit the pentagon is no where near as important as "why" any aircraft at all was able to penetrate the most secure air space in the country 38 minutes after the "second" attack on the wtc that removed ant doubts of whether we were under attack or not--the plane that hit the pentagon was in all likely hood a remotely piloted 737 just like the ones used at the wtc complex(which have been identified using the detailed image from murray street as originating from a 737)--dont ask "what" hit the pentagon ask "WHY" anything hit it at all 38 minutes after we "KNEW" we were under attack with an airforce base only 14 min away"-quote


could you have done a better job at handling terror attacks? I dont think so. nor could I.

You know, it's funny.
First we have some people screaming that the attack on the Pentagon was a missle. Boy, did they hold onto that and try to convice everyone of it!!!!
Now that the EVIDENCE shows that it was, in fact, a jetliner, the conspiracy response is that it was a jetliner "remotely" controlled.
It doesn't end.
There is NOTHING you or I can say or prove... they will twist it around once again.
My advise? IGNORE these imbeciles, as they only exist to confuse others and actually get a kick out of doing so.

My thread! What have they done to ya?!

For the last couple of years I have been on the fence about the whole thing, but I do have to give Sun & Scoob alot of credit, they are looking and investigating something of extreme impotence,and doing a good job.

Look at the J.F.K. "thing" for years and years after the assination people thought they were told the truth,and no still many questions are un answered, why because the public has no power to divulge the whole story. Pearl Harbour another that we are still finding facts that may have lead to a grander plan, I work with people that think it was because some low level clerk didn't pass a piece of paper,COME ON. It was Staged.

We have lies and deceits all around us every day, we need to start questioning the goverment and not defending it with blind "faith" Goverments from around the world have done much worse, and we condem them,Hmmm. I guess the ones that think the courts are completely just think Mickeal Jackson told the whole truth and nothing but the truth,Ya right

I will not go into details, because as it has been showen here one must find the truth or at least understand that THE TRUTH THEY ARE TOLD IS NOT ALWAYS THE TRUTH does Santa ring a bell.

Do some of you,defenders of the all truthful goverment still think that no chemical testing on citizens occurred,or that soldiers were not druged, or mind control never occurred, If at one moment you think you goverment is their all the time for your best interest think again ,they are not,they want your taxes!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok that was my 2 cents and Yes we need goverment,but we need to control our goverment,not the other way around. DEMOCRACY RULES...........

Here is 2 cents for you...

250 posts in this thread, which is a mere drop of seawater in a planet full of oceans of debate, and when they all dry up the truth will still elude because there is no Truth to what, how, and why 9/11/01 happened. There will be a history but there will never be a truth. Never.

great point--a simple to understand truth that is the root cause for all deception--only the ptb are not content with the sales tax or the illegal income tax that has been stolen for so long now they now want the taxes in big lump sums so through the manufacture of terrorism they are able to divert these large sums into the creation of useless departments of homeland securities or federal emergency agencies and pandemic response budgets--what gets me is their mind control capabilities of being able to con people into lining up to give up their rights and land away in exchange for poisonous vaccines and social security cards

Not to disrespect anyone who is pro-government in this thread, but it's time to wake people up to reality. The U.S. government has a history of planning false flag operations. This is a fact and cannot be disputed. The declassified historical document below should make you think twice about being pro-government this and pro-government that.

Operation Northwoods

See more on Operation Northwoods at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

FACT: Operation Northwoods was the code name for various false flag actions, including domestic terror attacks (such as involving the use of "hijacked" planes as missiles) on U.S. soil, proposed in 1962 by senior U.S. Department of Defense leaders to generate U.S. public support for military action against Cuba. The proposal was presented in a document entitled "Justification for US Military Intervention in Cuba," a draft memorandum pdf) written by the Department of Defense (DoD) and Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) representative to the Caribbean Survey Group. The draft memo was presented by the JCS to Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara on March 13 with one paragraph approved, as a preliminary submission for planning purposes. However, McNamara rejected the proposal. In addition, the existence of Operation Northwoods was often dismissed by the general U.S. public as an unfounded "conspiracy theory" until the draft memorandum was declassified in recent years through a Freedom of Information Act request by the National Security Archive.

This is why simply "shutting up" is widely considered unpatriotic and a risk to sabotaging national awareness. Understand this, the American citizens have the full right to question their government at all times, otherwise the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) wouldn't exist.

See more about the FOIA at:

http://www.usgs.gov/foia/

Below is a link to a list of numerous confirmed and unconfirmed false-flag operations conducted by the U.S. and its allies (including the Israeli Mossad Intelligence Agency):

List of Operations

I have been looking with no joy for some links for any video footage of documentaries arguing the case for and against the 911 conspiracy the reason i am asking is i'm Dislecsic i've heard audio before but no video i just want to see both sides of the story thanks for anyone who arrives