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Transported across space and time?
U.S.S Eldridge

In July 1943, the destroyer U.S.S. Eldridge pulled into the Delaware Bay area for a United States Naval experiment that involved the task of making the ship invisible. The project's official name is Project Rainbow, but was nicknamed and more commonly known as the Philadelphia Experiment.



The most interesting theory about the Philadelphia Experiment is that the destroyer did in fact disappear and was teleported across space and time. Supposedly, there was a great number of ingenious scientists (including Tesla and Einstein) that were taking part in the experiment. However, Nikola Tesla was supposed to dead at the time of the Naval experiment.

The theory is that light has to be bent around the ship to make it invisible. To accomplish this, the Navy wrapped the ship's circumference in wire and passed a measured current through it. This caused a huge oscillating magnet to form a magnetic field around the ship, not only bending the light, but space and time as well. The physics of the experiment are reminiscent of Einstein's Unified Field Theory that once you bend light, you are also unwittingly bending space and time as well.

The first time this experiment was undertaken, the ship didn't completely disappear, and an imprint of the hull could be seen sitting in the water. The second time, the ship totally disappeared in a green fog and was sighted in Norfolk, Virginia.

A haunting fact is that when the ship reappeared, the crew were all in a state of disorientation. Some were mentally ill, while other crewmen didn't even return. There were also crewmen that returned embedded in the hull. Later accounts arose about the crewmen, including a former crew member who was involved in a bar fight, and all the participants froze in time, as reported by a local newspaper! There were also accounts of people who were on the ship, spontaneously combusting.

The mystery remains

It is still not known what happened that day in 1943, mainly due to the lack of witnesses coming forth who served aboard the Eldridge. There is also no documentation available to the public which details Project Rainbow. It may have simply been a degaussing experiment. But how did the destroyer appear seconds later in Virginia? Its possible the answer will never be known, but the mystery may be solved when scientists rediscover what happened in Delaware Bay.


CertifiedPublicAssasin
ill start off by saying, welcome to the forums Event Horizon

i can also say that the philly experiment is one of my favorite mysteries of the past 500 years, mainly cause theres no good reason to dis-prove it, most of it is scientificly possible
GreyWeather
I heard about this, and watched a programme about it. it was verr interesting how the happenings happened.

perhaps when the ship phased back into our time stream, it altered the atoms of everything on bored. the reason why people were embedded into the ship and why they became mentally ill.

another theory of why they became mentally ill, is becaus when they supposedly 'teleported', they went to a place of a horrific sighting and those that dissapeared may have either fell off during that other time stream, became vapourised or they literly became 'one' with the ship - totally phasing into the ships hull.

but its all shrouded in mystery, it'll be very interesting if it all came out though.

EDIT, cruddy spelling >_< again!
Event Horizon
yeah i read a huge story on it and it was really interestin stuff, kinda freaked me out too if it is true and this type of transport is possible
Nitetalon
Is there a good link that I can read about Philly? I have always been interested in it, but never really took the time to investigate it. Its seem, though, that what happened is scientifically possible. Ive also read, one of Einstein's theories, that an object with enough mass and gravity (mostly gravity) will actually warp the space-time continuum. I believe there is a plausible theory out that nearly proves that planets actually warp the space-time continuum.

If you were to imagine the space-time continuum as a blanket spanning the universe, and you took a basketball and placed it on the blanket while it was suspended on all four corners, the basketball will make an impression. Supposedly, the planets (or objects with enough gravity) will do the same thing.

Are there any pet theories about anti-gravitons or the use of a gravity drive that would create a gravitational field big enough to produce this effect? If so, what would be the affect on the surrounding environment? Wouldn't there be some sort of matter displacement?
Yelekiah
http://www.qsl.net/w5www/philly.html

Also, I read a book about the Montauk Project many, many years ago. Creepy stuff.
Event Horizon
whole story http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/philadelphia.html
Event Horizon
whats the Montauk Project
Yelekiah
The Montauk Project and the Philadelphia Experiment were somewhat related. The Montauk Project had to do with mind control, UFOs. Preston B. Nichols wrote a book on it. You can google it for its relation to the Philadelphia Experiment.
Event Horizon
thanks
Nitetalon
How closely were these two related?
Yelekiah
This is an excerpt from the site I posted earlier. (Also if you'd like you can check out a book by Preston B. Nichols.
"A full report of the experiment was given to Congress and the members were so horrified that they disbanded the project immediately. However, research continued at the Montauk Project, a.k.a. the Phoenix Project, which was headed by Dr. John Von Neumann, who also directed the Philadelphia Experiment. The Montauk Project centered mostly on how the mind reacts to interdimensional travel."
Nitetalon
QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Sep 24 2005, 05:33 PM) [snapback]860492[/snapback]

This is an excerpt from the site I posted earlier. (Also if you'd like you can check out a book by Preston B. Nichols.
"A full report of the experiment was given to Congress and the members were so horrified that they disbanded the project immediately. However, research continued at the Montauk Project, a.k.a. the Phoenix Project, which was headed by Dr. John Von Neumann, who also directed the Philadelphia Experiment. The Montauk Project centered mostly on how the mind reacts to interdimensional travel."


Why does the nam Neumann sound familiar?
theSOURCE
It's funny how this story always turns up time and again.

The Philadelphia experiment is a hoax. It's a fantasy created by a lunatic named Carlos Allende.

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... in 1955 an auto parts salesman and amateur astronomer named Morris K. Jessup published a book called The Case for the UFO. In his book, Jessup speculated--among other things--that anti-gravity and electromagnetism would be better than rocket fuel for propelling space vehicles. The following year, Carl Allen (a.k.a. Carlos Miguel Allende), a somewhat brilliant but very disturbed human being, started the hoax by writing letters to Jessup telling him of The Philadelphia experiment. Allende claims that he witnessed the disappearance of a ship while on board the SS Andrew Furuseth, a merchant ship. He also claims he saw some Eldridge crew members disappear into thin air during a fight. Allen sent an annotated copy of Jessup's book to the Office of Naval Research in Washington, D.C. Jessup was summoned to Washington and turned over the Allen letters. Later, the Varo Corporation, a firm which did research for the military, published the annotated version along with Allen's letters to Jessup. Jessup committed suicide in 1959. Allen continued sending strange annotations to relatives for many more years, as he drifted from place to place.

The speculations regarding the origin of Allen's story have run rampant. Some say that he was there and saw it all. Some say that Allen is an alien and channels information. Some claim that the Navy is covering up the experiment and their complicity with aliens. The simple truth is that Allen made it all up.

Allen's hoax has grown into a legend which has been spurred on by a number of books, some of them fictional, some non-fictional, and others fictional but claiming to be non-fictional. In 1965, Vincent H. Gaddis's Invisible Horizons: True Mysteries of the Sea was published. In addition to stories about various disappearing islands, aircraft, and ships, Gaddis presents the basics of the legend as created by Allen in his letters and published in the Varo edition of Jessup's work. In 1977, Charles Berlitz published Without a Trace: New Information from the Triangle, which included a chapter on the Philadelphia experiment. Berlitz is a frequent source for stories on strange phenomena, such as Atalantis, the Bermuda Triangle, and Noah's Ark.


http://skepdic.com/philadel.html

The Montauk Project, on the other hand, is just one huge conglomeration of profoundly ridiculous claims (such as Tesla communicating with ETs, the consciousness of one person being put into another person's body, time teleportation, etc.) all thrown together.

Stellar
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i can also say that the philly experiment is one of my favorite mysteries of the past 500 years, mainly cause theres no good reason to dis-prove it


You're kidding, right?
Nitetalon
QUOTE(theSOURCE @ Sep 24 2005, 08:22 PM) [snapback]860595[/snapback]

It's funny how this story always turns up time and again.

The Philadelphia experiment is a hoax. It's a fantasy created by a lunatic named Carlos Allende.
http://skepdic.com/philadel.html

The Montauk Project, on the other hand, is just one huge conglomeration of profoundly ridiculous claims (such as Tesla communicating with ETs, the consciousness of one person being put into another person's body, time teleportation, etc.) all thrown together.

Some of it is used as propulsion. I believe it is called Magnetic Electrodynamic Propulsion.
Eternal Light
QUOTE(theSOURCE @ Sep 25 2005, 03:22 AM) [snapback]860595[/snapback]

It's funny how this story always turns up time and again.

The Philadelphia experiment is a hoax. It's a fantasy created by a lunatic named Carlos Allende.
http://skepdic.com/philadel.html

The Montauk Project, on the other hand, is just one huge conglomeration of profoundly ridiculous claims (such as Tesla communicating with ETs, the consciousness of one person being put into another person's body, time teleportation, etc.) all thrown together.



There is absolutely no proof whatsoever that Allende perpetrated a hoax! I find it more than a little suspicious that Jessup committed suicide just four years after he published his book!
theSOURCE
QUOTE(Lauren @ Oct 8 2005, 02:51 PM) [snapback]879732[/snapback]

There is absolutely no proof whatsoever that Allende perpetrated a hoax!


There's also no evidence to back up any of Allende's claims.

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I find it more than a little suspicious that Jessup committed suicide just four years after he published his book!


There's nothing suspicious about Jessup's suicide. He had become depressed over his career falling apart, increasing family problems, and the auto accident he had. He chose to take his own life rather then to deal with these problems.
Funi
The movie "Event Horizon" is based on this stuff , right? It's a helluva good one. I don't think that a travel in time is possible. I'd like to, though. crying.gif
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