I heard a theory from a mediun that when you die the concept of heaven and hell or what you experience is manifested into what you believed heaven or hell is like when you were alive.So simply you create your heaven or hell.

Event Horizon:

I believe you have an awesome point. I personally do not believe hell as literally being in the "bowels" of the Earth, brimestone & fire, etc. I believe we make our own hell. It is a state of mind.

As for what Heaven is, I'm as confused as the next person!

You answerd your own question. A state of mind but after the fact.

I have stated it this way
Heaven or Hell is what you make it to be.

Hell is what you make it alive, so you don't have to suffer it after you die. Heaven is what you deserve if you succeed. You have to go through Hell to go to Heaven.

No.
The context of what I was saying is that, heaven and hell is a state of mind. It is how you feel about what you have done in your life. If there are things you did that you are ashamed of or if you are happy with the things you have accomplished.
In the Christian context, heaven and hell to me are nothing but works of fiction.

IMO I think of these two as adjectives to describe a state of beieng Hell being a really bad day, being in a relationship that is hell, this is a hellish hot day, hoping someone you are mad at "rots" in hell ( knowing full well thats not possible because there isn't really a hell) Heaven to me is having an hour to do just what i want I have said this is heaven, eating a really gooey choclate cake this is heavenly, again not an actual place ,when I told my kids there is no easter bunnys or Santas or tooth fairys no Gods no heavens no hells, they said I knew that or I thought so, Namaste sheri

Fairytale or not, "Hell" is not even a Christian concept, it was a pagan Greek concept that the Christians copied to make their new religion more familair among the pagan Greeks who were there biggest converts. The concept of "Hell" before this paganization of scripture was being devoured by "dragons" that resided in Heaven (according the the Apocolypse of Baruch and other works). This may have a connection with the dragonlike beast that swallowed the souls of the wicked in Egyptian mythology. There was no punishment of a fiery Hell in the old Testament which Jesus endorsed as the word of God. It was "added" by his followers after the fact.

You said it is a state of mind 'after' the fact. Amybutts wasn't answering the question, because there was no question.

Again, you said 'after the fact', this is about what you experience right now (not just a state of mind ) that you feel is Heaven or Hell. How I understand it is that you go through it in daily life. You don't plan to go to Hell, some 'plan' to go to Heaven. I myself have no plans for either. So what I go through is either Heaven or Hell in my life now.

I was hoping I was right about it, but you see, 'life' itself is a 'dying' process. According to some people as well as I do...

Amy sort of had a question and I tried to answer it. So yes there was a question.

Love to all

In all you be in all states of being in all you are as you walk here
Heaven or hell exists in ever thought then you live in the planet of choice earth
All states of being live in the perception of how you see it your judgments
In spirit we sit in love of all for all you do here is what you do and all are truly love
Heaven and hell live in the earth plain and is the creation of every individual in every instant as her or see walks here

Love to all you be

now you have heard it from a channel
have fun and party hard

Define "Sort of" without a question mark.

IF only you knew. The OR in 'Heaven or Hell' is where the existence is a question. I have no one to ask. So go ahead with love and communicate, but if you have a question, be careful to ask. That is all I can say for now....

by have a awesome life

Read it this time.


See no question mark!

Let me show you that it wasn't a question, it's a statement: but can be turned into a question.

"As for what Heaven is? I'm as confused as the next person."

So I understand you say "sort of" about - 'I'm confused as the next person'- but not in her answering her own question if she asks "As for what Heaven is?".
That is what I mean. She didn't ask. It sounds like a question, so you assume she asks and then you say "you answered your own question".

So you can make your own Hell, it's a state of mind, NO QUESTION. We make our own Hell, NO QUESTION.

As for whta Heaven is?

Question: Is it a state of mind as well as what we make all our own?

Or are you as confused as the next person, being that if you make your own Hell> that there is no possibility of making your own Heaven, because of that confusion???

This picture will say it all.

Of course there is Heaven and Hell.But this concepts were created for the human mind to understand them.Heaven is green, etc...Hell is fire, etc.....The concepts are made for the limited mind of humans.I'm sure it's smth else, maybe similar with this ones but i hope i'll find the first one

Monkeys are people too, 'as confused as the the next person'.

I remember a friend who was in a show once without me.... Her director was very involved in parapsychologicalesque studies. (Wow, that was an awkward word.... or pseudo-word....) I cannot recall at the moment, but he had "evidence" that lead him to believe that our concept of Heaven and Hell is skewed.... and that the life we live now is Hell. Our ascent from this Hell (death) signifies our atonement, our forgiven state. We gain a tabula rasa state of existence and are able to live in a Heaven-like afterlife.

I don't know if I believe it, but it's nice to think about.

I don't even know if I believe in an afterlife. I only pray I can spend eternity with my loved ones.

That was the simple way of putting it for some people. But what is being asked is, do we make it for ourselves, or does someone (God/Devil) make it happen for us? So there is the way you make it for yourself if (God/Devil) doesn't, and the way you 'go' when you believe they do.

Then there are those, who are spiritually and not religiously involved who still think you make it for yourself. I happen to be one of them, actually...

Hahahahaha, I totally got what you were saying, Zandore!

And yes, I was welcoming anyone else's answer.

What I was trying to say is that I believe we create our own hell, yes. I don't believe in literal brimstone and fire.

As for my response to Heaven, I guess you can just say I am still unsure, still learning, still seeking answer and welcoming ideas from other people. I believe we have a creator and do not believe that when we die it is the end, but as to what "Heaven" is exactly, I am unsure. Maybe there is no literal Heaven?? Guess I will have to wait and see....

..So you can get pretty tired of 'making your own hell' for so many years and by the time you die 'Heaven' takes over that 'making' process, and relieves you of your confusion??

It is with the whole confusion thing that I wonder keeps you on the earth after you die, if you don't know what to make of a heaven on earth. If your confused, wouldn't you die and still 'make your own Hell', even if you don't go to prison - or deserve to?

Hell is really just prison as it is...

Well, first of all, Event Horizon was making a statement that we create our own Heaven and Hell. I thought it was a good post and responding saying that yes, I believe we make our own hell, unsure about the rest.

But that no, I do not have all the answers that I do not know for sure what Heaven and Hell is. Like I stated before, still learning, still reading and still listening to other people's responses and opinions. And I am not making my own hell on earth, I am a pretty positive person and I don't think it will be held against me if I do not find all the answers I am seeking and die confused.

Maybe those of us who are seeking answers will be enlightened when we die. Maybe there is nothing there but six feet of dirt. I think there is a difference between being "confused" about what you feel the hereafter is about when you die and binding yourself here. If you believe there is something after we leave this Earth, and you seek answers, knowledge and evolve, would you not in the hereafter?

And maybe "confused" is not the best term I could have used. Uncertain, may have been better?

You agree with me on evolution!

I agree with you on evolution.....

....And maybe "confused" is not the best term to use....

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Thank you ma'am



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The ancient Sumerian writings (long before Greek mythologies) spoke of a rebellion in heaven where the protagonist was defeated by a god and sent "downward" in exile. There is little doubt that this tale was later embellished and became part of religous dogma. As far as being actual locations designed for the rewarding of the good and the penallties of the evil, that I doubt very much.

Well, Ive been through the 'confused' part, right now it's a 'transformation' as far as I'm concerned. I don't see Heaven as clearly and understandably as I would Hell. Because I see Hell as prison after all, and anything beyond that couldn't possibly be all that Heavenly. Of course there's Heavenly on earth and Heaven itself. So I suppose I am only confused to the point I know I don't deserve prison, and I don't deserve paradise. So what I have in between I am not confused about but.........
It's a fraction of Hell and a fraction of Heaven put together, so
I adapt and I transform.