starman: the link supposedly showing a grey on an Egyptian relief unfortunately shows nothing of the sort - it is infact a ceremonial vase or somethng similiar, in the same way the 'tank', 'helicopter', and 'submarine' (shown further down that page) are just overwritten hieroglyphs worn with age. Both these images have been previously been discussed on this forum and i advise you to track those threads down.

Neferteri: Rods don't actually exist - they are a well known hoax, created by filming fast moving birds or insects on 'slow' film. There are also several threads all about this topic, and i suggest you read them.

spyro_86: What ten tablets?

the facts r there, we were created by some alien beings as in the first bible written in hebrew it was not elohim in the singular but elohims in the plural, elohim means god but elohims means GODS WHICH CAME FROM THE SKY. I just cant understand religion in that everything we, us humans have worked for and accomplished in our own lives and for others r becos of a spiritual god we just seem to have no confidence or self beleif in ourselves, why cos we r scared to go against what we fear 'RELIGION'

Those are the facts are they? I suggest you furnish us with some sliver of proof.

There's a point there. A few people here are complaining that some of us don't want to give credit to humans for the creation of Christianity. Wasn't Christianity founded by God in the first place? So how can you say we created it? And what's so great about it that we'd want to take credit for it?

Also, while I think it's possible that aliens are to blame for many things on this planet, I don't think we should be looking to the Greys. They're only proctologists from beyond the stars!

Personally if there is a God he/she/it wouldn't need a religion for it/him/herself to make it/him/her feel better. Religion is either a man made creation or the creation of an alien race that has been bastardized by man.

where are the facts though that a religious god has ever existed, if u think about it u cant say from the bible as there has been many versions of this MISLED book through history, its like a book being turned into a film it is never quite the same.
there is no facts but what there is, is faith and belief and to respect others for what they believe, but i think i know the truth as what i believe in came from me and it was not till many years after that i found out other people had the same beliefs as me, now how can that b a coincidence.

how can anyone say that rods are birds or insects, i have never known a bird or insect flying at speeds of 6000 mph.
also has ne1 seen the footage of this long grey shaped object flying from the twin towers on 9/11 look it up on the internet, maybe these rods r some sort of what religion calls angels or something which takes our inner body to another planet. WHO KNOWS, ISN'T THE WORLD MORE WONDERFUL WHEN WE STILL SEARCH FOR ANSWERS.

man...that pissed me off........
hehehehe...i said piss...

ps...no...its not wonderful...but that what happens when you are pessimistic

so thats it then is it god, god made everything in this whole wide world so its that simple our lives past present and future in a nutshell "GOD" well thats why so many people are narrow minded in this world no one can open there eyes and there mind and just say heh maybe i am wrong maybe there is more to life than the bible but no it wont happen, why, cos through thousands off years people, certainly children are brainwashed into having to believe in a religion of some sort, why cant we just make up our own minds.

How's about some punctuation somewhere, Tupac?

I am not here for good punctuation I am here to give my opinions on this topic and hope that narrow minded people open their minds just a bit and realise there is more to life than religion.

Just go out and buy this book

GODS OF THE NEW MILLENIUM BY ALAN E ALFORD.

Ok i have done further research on this subject of the gray alien hiroglythics and it would appear that you may be right purplestuart BUT that is assuming that it is An offering of a lotus blossom as research results from some sites on the net would have us believe. Looking at the lotus blossum upside down that is PURPORTED to exist at this egyptian site on another relief in the same tomb would appear to make sense HOWEVER:

I would like to visit this site to confirm that this is the case and i would have liked to have seen other hyroglythics from the site as a whole to get a proper evaluation of this but unfortunately there was a fire and the damaged remains of the painted walls included scenes of agriculture and fowling, watched by Akhethotep and his eldest son Ptahhotep as a child. This information came from a site on egyptology but i do not know when the fire occured and if this possible alien grey looking image was destroyed or not. Perhaps the fire was hundreds of years ago, no idea as it did not stipulate. an interesting point of this site is that through a passageway to the left is a chamber that contains a mummy that has not been identified. Does not really have any significance as such but it could be useful if identified for further research.

The photos that APPEAR clearer can be found here:

http://www.catchpenny.org/alien.html

Interesting as i actually tried before seeing these photos, to use the original ones using photoshop and i light blasted it etc and it still looked pretty alien to me.

PurpleStuart you mentioned that "Rods are a well known hoax - they are fast moving birds or insects taken at low shutter/film speeds. no one said that they were birds moving at 6000mph - it was the people supporting the claim that Rods existed who said that it was because Rods moved at 6000mph they couldn't be seen by the human eye. Of course the reason rods can't be seen by the human eye is because we just see the bird or insect, not the blurred motion"

Assuming that is the case what of the secret nasa transmissions? or even the nasa footage that has been released by nasa that they were unaware contained rods in space when released to the public? they could not be explained as birds. Are you going to say that they are intelligently controlled space debris? just my little joke.

The whole of christianity etc. was 'managed' by extraterrestrials, just about every bible event can be explained easilly if you assume that an external influence is intervening. The guiding star, angels, Jesus was the first ever test tube baby! Every time Jesus goes up the mountain for a few days etc. etc. etc. - it is obvious in my mind that we are being 'groomed' by aliens who jump in and advance evolution now and again and attempt to keep us on track for whatever reason.

This site I found has some wierd and interesting theorys on Creation and Aliens. LINK
To me it makes more sense that Jesus was part alien. Because the bible has so many references to flying vehicles and fires in the sky. Plus it's odd how many painting of Jesus have a UFO/ abnormal object in the sky behindd him.

This is what happened (In my opinion)

Aliens (from Zeta Reticuli) decided that they wanted to make up religion,the reason i serously dont know.
According to people who work for the US Military aliens from Zeta Reticuli claim to have made up god and have given the Majestic 12 evidence of it,the evidence is something to do with Jesus hanging on the cross.
BTW scientists have recently proved that Jesus couldnt have hung from the cross as long as he did,and theres supposedly evidence to say that jesus survived hanging on the cross.
This is what i think happened they impregnanted the Virgin Mary and Jesus was half alien half human,people who work for the US Military/CIA/NASA say that alien/human hybrids look alot more human than alien.
Any way after they made jesus they instructed him what to do and say,jesus didnt really hang from the cross as long as they said aliens abducted him and healed him.
Before he handed out the 10 commandments

"Jesus levitated into the glowing ball of light where he was tempted by the devil"

I have no idea what the Star of Bethlehem really was, but suggesting that it was a comet is very vague, and without a shred of evidence to back it up.

Chris Low.

I hope there is something in all this religion that encompasses are small (and growing smaller all the time) world. It would be a shame to find out that the billions upon billions of people that truly believed (- and died for -) they were serving some kind of higher power, eventually find out that it was all started as some cosmic joke by some alien teenager, who’s parents grounded him for 3 millennia for causing so much trouble here on earth!

GOD it must have been david icke that was doing the channeling in that link above.
Lost interest when the channeller was stated as unknown. Heard all this frequency stuff before, love the way people are starting to use the "military compartmentalization" quote while spouting religious babble all of a sudden as a way to explain the power structure. All suddenly seems to be about since it was mentioned by the Disclosure Project. Ofcourse this way to explain how they keep secrets does make a lot of sense. I suppose im saying that it sounds like contamination from the so called UNKNOWN "channeler". Lets stick to the FACTS Folks. (god that sounds familiar!)

Nice one Phantom

*wipes vodka off keyboard*

Very interesting subject


I think Christianity was started by humans....but I think they were describing something they couldn't explain. It's all in their interpretation of what was going on which they were trying to describe, but lacked the words for.

Its a possibilty, hmmm? I never thought of that before. In my opinion I think that anything that is unknown to us, would be considerd Extraterrestrial.

Why only concentrate the belief to christianity? The mayans believed in a christ like being (kukulcan) who came from venus and taught them the ways of the universe and time etc. The mayan calender begins in the year when venus was at its closest to the earth and ends when again it will reach that point. The hieroglyphs of kulkulcan look very similar to Jesus (mayans did not have beards) and they also built pyramids and deformed childrens heads into alien shapes (as did the ancient Egyptians). There are other similarities but I cant remember them all!

the tale of Noahs Ark was stolen from the Epic of Giglamesh...

I don't think it was stolen, but infact a story based on the same event - every part of the world except japan has myths concerning floods where only one man/couple/family/settlement survive a catastrophic flood by building a boat/taking to higher ground.

There is pretty good evidence to suggest that there were three global super floods which took place since the end of the ice age, these myths are tales from the most recent, though there are some which are earlier.

uhh... christinianity was started by ...................*drum roll*


CHRISTIANS

LOL

WHY DOES EVERYTHING HAVE TO BE CREATED BY ALIENS!?! ^^ Next thing you know is that the whole darn universe was created by aliens! Ahhhhh! Aliens didn't create or start christianity.


Happy Holidays ;

This has to be among the most ridiculous and retarded threads I have ever seen in my entire life . Maybe aliens invented the human need to take a crap after eating food ? Or maybe Aliens invented water ? How about root beer ? And the explanation for the existance of dirt ... Aliens ! And guess what ? Every government official in the earth is no human ... you guessed it ! Space monkey's from the 362 nebula star forces of the andromedian galaxy !






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I wonder if aliens created television? Or maybe MACINTOSH!?

Happpy Holidays

About the pyramids:

For those of you who actually have some knowledge of the Bible:

After The Passover, Pharaoh let the people of Israel go.
Once they were gone he changed his mind and along with
the entire Egyptian army took off after the Israelites.
God divided the Red Sea and the Israelites crossed to the other side.
Pharaoh and company followed after them into the divided waters.
God then 'undivided' the waters and the Egyptian army and Pharaoh were destroyed.

Every empire becomes an empire not because of
alien participation, but rather because of the concerted
effort of intelligent men.
It was Pharaoh and his predecessors who built
the pyramids ....with slave labor. The Pharaoh in question
used predominantly the slave population consisting of Israelites.

Interestingly enough, the entire Egyptian culture
of that time vanished. Reason has it that; if the entire army were
destroyed, no longer would the enforcement of the slave population
be possible. The entire economy was built around slave
labor and the building of the pyramids. The army suddenly
vanished in the waves of the Red Sea. No more Egyptian Pyramidal
Culture. Now...was it the aliens who built the pyramids?
Or was it the aliens who divided the Red Sea?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

joc

OMG,
Why do people fly off the handle and repeat proven lies? Next we will be discussing the theory that the earth is hollow and the 10 missing tribes of Israel are living there and haved developed flying saucers.
FYI, there was a gentleman who claimed to know how the pyramids were built, but since no one believed him, he built a "park" in Florida as a monument to a woman. In it, there are 7 ton sculptures that would be impossible for us to without heavy equipment. Yet he did it with out modern machinery and without help. Gosh, was he an alien?
As for Christianity, I believe. Modern science has done more to prove the Bible than to disprove it. Besides, I can take a leap of faith. I will discuss more in a private chat if you wish. No need to drive everyone away with a discussion that each person has there own private views on.

i thought the alien part of UM would be like the Cryptozoology part, with every one talking as if the cryptids were real only because of conveniance, no body really taking it seriously, but yall actually believe this stuff, dont you? aleins i thought people only thought this stuff in movies!

how is it you can believe in god, and then not believe in other unsubstantiated claims about things in this world

Yes Man-In-Mudboots. Many of us here do believe in strange things. And no, to believe in them is not blaspamey, I would highly recommend that you expect different beliefs, no matter where you are in the world. After all, what you consider normal will no doubt be considered extreme by someone else somewhere in the world.

http://www.ufoarea.com/aas_bible_tech.html

What if God was one of us?
Just a slob like one of us?

dont be silly! jesus wasnt an alien! the whole point of jesus was that he was man! its true, many religions have their own christs, and it seems the new age religion have altered the original storey to their own liking once more that jesus was an alien! why not stick to the original, whatever it was we dont know now bcuz its been changed and fitted to others ideals waaaay too many times!