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user posted image rOn a warm September evening in 1975, while sipping pre-dinner drinks outside with his family, Mike Bird found his truth right here -- not "out there," as they would say later on the X-Files. From his perch on Close Avenue in south Parkdale, Mr. Bird turned his 24-year-old eyes to "a bright, fuzzy ball, just sitting there, shimmering" over Lake Ontario."I watched it for two hours," says Mr. Bird, now 54, recalling how he fetched his telescope and trained it southward. "My wife looked at it, my parents looked at it. Before long, I was firmly convinced that we were dealing with something real."Tomorrow, at the University of Toronto's Convocation Hall, Mr. Bird will join hundreds of fellow earthlings who, he hopes, will be similarly convinced -- not only that UFOs exist, but that governments know far more about extraterrestrial visitors than they're letting on."It's not about selling T-shirts," he says of the event. "It's about putting up the best speakers who can represent the position that we are not alone."

The day-long symposium, dubbed Exopolitics Toronto, is an effort by the UFO community's more moderate and serious adherents to prod officialdom into opening its own X-files so that citizens of Earth can plan for the day aliens make contact.Their beef about secrecy is an old one, easily dismissed by skeptics inured to supermarket tabloids, sci-fi blockbusters and out-there conspiracy theories. The trouble, Mr. Bird and his colleagues say, is that credible data get overlooked in the process. To them, official disclosure would not only help to silence the skeptics, but also the wackier elements of the UFO community, who only make the issue easier for the rest of us to laugh off and for governments to avoid.

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SurfX805
Just like The "Disclosure Project." Why did they never goto congress? I have the video, but it seems as if the military personnel on the project will not go to congress. What will happen with this project too? Will they take it to the news stations, radio, and a live broadcast from world leaders all around the world? Or will they just sit back and live hypocritical like the people in the "Disclosure Project."
SurfX805
As for the "are we ready" part? Well, look at the southern states of USA. They are full of backwoods rednecks with a giant collection of guns. A small arsenel if you will. So if they come peacefully, i don't see a problem, but if they come hostile, there will be war. Just like any other war, it's a 50 50 chance on who wins..


Keep posting these threads. I find them very intriging... yes.gif
Baku
QUOTE(SurfX805 @ Sep 26 2005, 07:25 PM) [snapback]862257[/snapback]

As for the "are we ready" part? Well, look at the southern states of USA. They are full of backwoods rednecks with a giant collection of guns. A small arsenel if you will. So if they come peacefully, i don't see a problem, but if they come hostile, there will be war. Just like any other war, it's a 50 50 chance on who wins..
Keep posting these threads. I find them very intriging... yes.gif


If they would want a war I think the aliens would definitely win, the chance for humanity to survive would be critical to none. Sure we got those nukes but we wont even know were their planet is, and besides there are no weapons in space, I think huh.gif . The battle would be fought on our planet, so we would be fighting to survive. And if the aliens actually traveled all that way to Earth, they probably have master the secret of the cosmos to travel through space on long distances. Then you can count on some heavy advanced weapons hmm.gif

The only good thing we got is that maybe there is some elemental in our planet that we could use as a weapon. For example water was killing the aliens in 'War of the Worlds' and HO2 was killing aliens in some other movie. And fire was burning the creepy aliens in the alien series alien.gif This is kinda unlikely but I think this is the alternative effective weapon we will have. Or maybe God will stand up and kick the aliens out of Earth thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif
Azalin
I heard of a theory that stated Aliens are not a race of war, while we humans are, therefore we have a distinct advantage. Although they have great technology, they never used it to create, or manufacter weapons like we have. Our guns, and nukes, and missiles and so fourth would destroy them, and it would only be a matter of time before we cracked their own technology once we have downed a few of their ships.
SurfX805
QUOTE(Baku @ Sep 26 2005, 08:57 AM) [snapback]862286[/snapback]

If they would want a war I think the aliens would definitely win, the chance for humanity to survive would be critical to none. Sure we got those nukes but we wont even know were their planet is, and besides there are no weapons in space, I think huh.gif . The battle would be fought on our planet, so we would be fighting to survive. And if the aliens actually traveled all that way to Earth, they probably have master the secret of the cosmos to travel through space on long distances. Then you can count on some heavy advanced weapons hmm.gif

The only good thing we got is that maybe there is some elemental in our planet that we could use as a weapon. For example water was killing the aliens in 'War of the Worlds' and HO2 was killing aliens in some other movie. And fire was burning the creepy aliens in the alien series alien.gif This is kinda unlikely but I think this is the alternative effective weapon we will have. Or maybe God will stand up and kick the aliens out of Earth thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif

No weapons in space? rolleyes.gif So i take it you haven't heard of star wars. Not the movie, but the u.s. governments weapons space program? We'd anihilate them all... thumbsup.gif
Chokmah
QUOTE(Azalin @ Sep 26 2005, 09:05 PM) [snapback]862545[/snapback]

I heard of a theory that stated Aliens are not a race of war, while we humans are, therefore we have a distinct advantage. Although they have great technology, they never used it to create, or manufacter weapons like we have. Our guns, and nukes, and missiles and so fourth would destroy them, and it would only be a matter of time before we cracked their own technology once we have downed a few of their ships.


and we'll attack weapons to the sides...
jondeaux
They have always been here. Don't worry, they know us very well. They were here before the moon was set in place. The moon is not what it seems. There are wonderful surprises waiting. Do not fear death. Don't worry, be happy...but DON'T be NEGATIVE energy...like say gang bangers, or rape murderers, because when they die they get surprises too, but not nice ones.
I'm 56, I've been a contactee since I was 5 or 6. The government observes when they come, but the government troops are unarmed, and do not interfere...they couldn't if they wanted to. The "others" are not ordinarily of the same density as we.
Wonderful things await you...don't worry about heaven or hell, those are myths, just enjoy this stage of your development.
I am not allowed to say more for social reasons.
Xzenox
jondeaux are they nice??? i know if i ask a million more questions you probably wont answer me just tell me are they nice? and by contactee do you jsut talk to them?? Or do they experriment on you? thats all i want to know and whaqt i think you could possibly tell me
jondeaux
QUOTE(Xzenox @ Sep 27 2005, 04:04 AM) [snapback]863037[/snapback]

jondeaux are they nice??? i know if i ask a million more questions you probably wont answer me just tell me are they nice? and by contactee do you jsut talk to them?? Or do they experriment on you? thats all i want to know and whaqt i think you could possibly tell me


It would be more correct to say they are kind. I have trouble believing reports of abductees who say they were abused. Those sorts of reports describe a different sort of being than I am familiar with. I have been in the presence of several types of beings, all were "nice". The first reptilian type I "met" was afraid of me. He or she froze in it's tracks when it realized I could see it. I did what experience has taught me is best which was to look in a different direction and not respond to seeing it. When I looked back it was gone. It was very young I learned later. Did you know the base of our brain is reptilian? One of the more inteteresting types I've met looked remarkably like Sonic the Hedgehog...he was dressed in a striped sweater, and his hair (not as extreme as sonics) was black, his grooming was immaculate. Without special equipment we cannot hear them, though they are able to hear us. The ones I'm most familiar with seem like chinese with very large eyes. They live inside the earth, but have "family" on 26 planets. There are reasons they are here, and those reasons have to do with us. I'm sorry but I really can't go into what those reasons are, but they are not bad. We do not realise that we exist as a holometabolic creature. I can't say more, just that human is just a phase in our growth.
I will answer questions when possible. It is natural to be curious.
Xzenox
As far as making contact with them and befriending them will it be soon or may I say in my life time I will tell you im under 18 years old??
Or do they really want to make contact with us even at all?
And how many species of aliens do you think or know there are?
And do they not want us to weaponise space?
Is there a God?
Did they help the Egyptians?
And do they tell you anything you want to know?
And by they live inside the earth do you mean like the core??
And do they care about us?
And how would the goverment observe you?
And will we evolve soon?
And this may sound dumb but if they really do Anal Probe why?
Have you ever wondered why they choose you?
How often do they visit you?
Im sorry I have million more questions please just answer the ones you can..

And let me tell you the only fear I have of aliens and I want you to comment on this if you can..

Well this is my fear waking up in the middle of the night and being paralyzed or not being able to move and seeing them.. Also if I actually got the joy of meeting one and if I wasnt able to say anything or understand him I think I would be very scared...

Does this sound stupid I mean I want my first encounter to be like in the morning or something not alone if possible but I probably will be alone....

I think this is the only fear that Upsets me I can handle everything else..

I know I probably sound stupid and immature to you because if you probably had many encounters with them and I am very young so this probably would not bug you..

Thank you for replying and listening I believe you..
Cebrakon
QUOTE(SurfX805 @ Sep 26 2005, 08:55 AM) [snapback]862222[/snapback]

Just like The "Disclosure Project." Why did they never goto congress? I have the video, but it seems as if the military personnel on the project will not go to congress. What will happen with this project too? Will they take it to the news stations, radio, and a live broadcast from world leaders all around the world? Or will they just sit back and live hypocritical like the people in the "Disclosure Project."


geek.gif UFOs will never make "contact." If they wanted to, they could have anytime in the past 50,000 years. Despite some disinformation released to humans by visiting humanoids, there is no reason to think that has ever happened. It is as if they were following the Prime Directive of Startrek, and that makes sense for anthropologists. Even human anthropologists do not wish to change the primitive cultures they study, knowing the dangers to the primitives of contact.
jondeaux
QUOTE(Xzenox @ Sep 27 2005, 05:26 AM) [snapback]863106[/snapback]

As far as making contact with them and befriending them will it be soon or may I say in my life time I will tell you im under 18 years old??
Or do they really want to make contact with us even at all?
And how many species of aliens do you think or know there are?
And do they not want us to weaponise space?
Is there a God?
Did they help the Egyptians?
And do they tell you anything you want to know?
And by they live inside the earth do you mean like the core??
And do they care about us?
And how would the goverment observe you?
And will we evolve soon?
And this may sound dumb but if they really do Anal Probe why?
Have you ever wondered why they choose you?
How often do they visit you?
Im sorry I have million more questions please just answer the ones you can..

And let me tell you the only fear I have of aliens and I want you to comment on this if you can..

Well this is my fear waking up in the middle of the night and being paralyzed or not being able to move and seeing them.. Also if I actually got the joy of meeting one and if I wasnt able to say anything or understand him I think I would be very scared...

Does this sound stupid I mean I want my first encounter to be like in the morning or something not alone if possible but I probably will be alone....

I think this is the only fear that Upsets me I can handle everything else..

I know I probably sound stupid and immature to you because if you probably had many encounters with them and I am very young so this probably would not bug you..

Thank you for replying and listening I believe you..


It is very possible that you will come to know "others".
Some of us are chosen for our ability to understand others not human.
If you understand, or speak to birds, rabbits, turtles, trees, ect, with a quiet mind and learn not to fear difference of beings such as snakes, or things which could harm you but inside your mind you are quiet, and know they won't. Do not cause them fear, or insult them by trying to pick them up, stroke thier fur ect.
They may be contactees also.
Do not believe yourself to be more important than a single grain of sand. Everything which exists has existed since the universe was created in one form or another, in one place or another. Flesh fears, because flesh knows pain.
Quarks do not fear.
You are not the animal you inhabit, think of your body as a space suit which allows you to live here at the density we inhabit.
If you notice them they want to make contact, there are many ways to find them.
Some species leave unexplainable markings on stone. The markings speak to your mind and wait to be noticed. If your mind finds a marking that resonates, your thoughts send a signal which is "heard" by the "little ones", and they will observe you, I speak here of the "Old People" who have been forever. They are not of the race of Adam as mankind thinks itself to be. A natural "technology" exists which we sometimes see, but do not understand.
Some follow the shamanistic way to contact, this is also a true path, but it is inward, not outward, and your questions make me believe you wish to experience outward experience.
When I was little we lived in a very isolated area, it was not unusual to see lights, and balls of light. My friends were lizards, toads, squirrels, baby rabbits, turtles, and the like.
My first contact was with what my Grandmother feared as the "mean man". These "fairy folk" are part of the watchers. Plants observe you. water observes you. the very earth observes you.
I do not know how many species of others there are, I have met many, I do not have a number I can give you.
The government noticed that radar images came to our area and stayed for a while.
Airplanes that broke the soundbarrier would chase the "others" but could never catch them.
After that men in uniforms came to speak with my parents, my parents asked me about my friends and I told them what I could about them.
To be honest I don't know why they came where I was.
They came everywhere I went when I got older and moved out to go to college.
I was studied by the government Dr. Silva was in charge of the project, it was at East Texas College (now University) under control of the USAF, but the "others" never studied me, just gave me an understanding of the kinship of all that exists, and everything on this earth is a "set".
I can tell you these things as many exist as legends, and superstition, but I do not know about the egyptians.
The first time I was taken was in 1971, after I'd married, my wife was also taken, as was our infant son. We saw an orange oily looking sphere, about 6:30 in the evening. We saw it leave in a most dramatic fashion about 4:00am. We were looked over but not medicaly inspected. We witnessed the earth from beyond the moon. We somehow were not afraid. We do not remember the entire event.
I know of one other time I was taken without my knowledge of being taken because I was dropped from about 3 feet above my bed, as I bounced up into a sitting position, I saw a softball size orange sphere which passed through my closed window without breaking it and became larger then left so quickly it could be said to have just blinked out.
My body carried a strange charge for a few hours after this event, a strange purple spark would go from my fingers to the bed linen, there was no pain.
My wife saw the sphere leave...it woke her up when they dropped me off.
This happened the night The Princess died. There were aircraft in the area.
This is an ongoing thing, and I have witnessed humans voluntarily leaving their bodies and going into the density of the "others". They rarely wish to return. The flesh dies when they do not return.
I've never been analy probed, that was made up by somebody. The level of strangeness is far greater than silly things like eyeball screws or butt rams...that is movie stuff.
Can't say about God, I haven't bumped into one.
The "others" now give about 3 days notice before they enter our airspace ,the Govt. guys take up positions around my home (rural) and record all sorts of stuff I know nothing about. The underground people only come when there is an ice sheet on the ground. I don't know why. The Old Folks may be around any time.
Meet the old ones first, then you may have the answers you seek. you need to be out of any city or town...the old folks hate cities...if aliens ever were to attack they'd melt cities and towns....just my opinions but they do seem to avoid them like they were poison.
I can tell you no more and be true to promises made. I hope you understand.
Seek my friend, you will find. Do not fear, the fear mongers are liars.
I gain nothing here, I lose nothing here. You called me, and now I leave forever.
Goodbye.
Uversa
I think, jondeaux, that your comments are too profound for anyone to add upon, including me original.gif

I enjoyed reading what you posted though, thats for sure.
character
WOW, with all kinds of stories going around its hard to believe anything, but who knows, interesting story.
Mr. Gj Philosophy
o hi mr jondeaux!!

i've seen the tv miniseries "Taken" by steven spielberg last 2003. There's a like dream sequence, were an animated i think a rabbit or squirrel i can remember, who wants to be followed by the actor or actress. Well from these dream sequence I remembered the novel Alice in Wonderland, were Alice followed an animated rabbit into the wonderland then communicating with other animated characters.

My question is, are these animated characters that I said above are SIMILAR that you have talking or communicating with as you call the "others"?
VALARLIGHT
Wow, Jondeaux, these "aliens" as it were, sound really nice original.gif
pr0jekt
I wonder if out of body experience, will help in seeing them? Everything you say jondeaux is very interesting to me, thanks for the info. It is very helpful of you to open our minds little more outwards.
saladins follower
cough cough:: ya story's bs:: cough cough
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