Hi i can move the tin foil psi wheel really easy but the paper 1 wont budge i know all about air currents but i hold my breath i can mov the foil 1 when no where near it but the paper 1 wont move at all please help thanx

NOONE will help you.

IF it is possible to move a paper psi-wheel with your mind, NOBODY can aid you in moving the wheel. Not in real-life, and certainly not over the internet. I might be wrong, but I think this thread doesn't really serve a purpose.

he's asking for advice on how to gain more concentration, i think, so people can aid him in this scenario.

i did it once, but i can't do it anymore . when i did it i was not really focused and i was not trying very hard so mabey it's depends on how relaxed you are and to have it in your mind sub-counsiously

Well it is pretty hard to perform the impossible.
I suppose you could employ what a lot of people around here who think they can move a psi wheel do, your imagination.

Well, it's thought that psychic powers are deprived on magnetic energy...perhaps you can't move a non-metalic item. Or perhaps you can't move anything at all. I'm skeptic, still, though. What you kids should really be doing is reading some Edgar Alan Poe, not trying to trick the laws of psysics.

Ok, a few steps...

1. Put the tin psi wheel under a glass jar or bowl, then tape down the bowl/jar and make sure no air can get through.

2. Stand away for the table or whatever you are using so your movements won't cause teh wheel to turn.

3. Set up a video camera/web cam/whatever, and move the wheel.

4. Post it on UM for us to see.

Not that easy anymore, is it?

Heh heh.

i have move it once under the glass but i cant do it and telekinesis is real because my mum can do it shes a medium as well but every1 has there own beliefs

im a newbie, what is a psy wheel?
pls, tell me.

Use the search function on this site. If that doesn't help you, just give up. It's honestly not worth that much effort.

A psi wheel is a folded piece of paper used to manifest the insecurities and false hopes of young teens.

Go Jeremy, Go Jeremy, Go Jeremy...

For people who come to a website dedicated to the paranormal and unexplained you sure don't have very open minds.

I didn't see the rule saying that we had to believe in psychic powers...

if u dont believe u cant do it so go on do want ya want coz i dont care if u dont believe

uh oh... another psi war. anyways i think i am going to spend my free time on something else a little more useful. what does it matter if you can move a pencil across the table? wow your levitating a tooth pick. so what does it matter? im going to solve world hunger, find a cure for cancer, and bring world peace before i waist my time on psi again. that was a little harsh but you get the idea.

We have logical minds. It is interesting for us, but we still have rational minds.

Wow, thanks for droping my IQ with your lack of coherency.



Exactly.



Once again....Exactly.



I try my best

skeptics disbelive, because truth for them = fear. when they fear something, they turn to natural human instinct, and make themselfs belive its not real. I dont know is a psi wheel is TK, but i can do it easyly using one hand from 6 inches away in a still calm room, and i can make it spin any direction i want. i belive its not TK, instead harnessing my energy and using to to move it.

To be the "truth fearing" sceptic that I am, I am going to post this again, not to be an idiot towards anyone, but to be true to the scientific method and to have some proof.

i dont own a camera, i am strong in this technique, as iv had friends tell me which direction to spin it, and i can slow it to a stop and spin it the way they want. i have a friend who can made upsidedown glasses slide an inch or so, but just cos i dont have proof, doesnt mean it didnt happen. im sure uv slept with a few girls, just cos u dont post the videos doesnt mean u didnt score

I agree with hezza you skeptic never change you mind if it was proved in front of you you would say no its not real. Skeptics are scared of the fact that theres more out there so go away and let the people who like this stuff chat about it. I can move the psi wheel i have done it under a glass but i cant do it again i am still practicing.

Peace out

Skeptics DIE!!!! hahahahaha

Nice assumption their




I think it would be great for humanity if one day this was proven real, just I want to see actual proof.




Just saying you did move it doesn't mean anything. I could say I have a pet pink elephant that flys around, you would ask for proof right ?




Wow, how intelligent

But as I don't go arounbd making such claims, evidence is not needed. Plus, sex is a natural part of our existance, and is far, far, FAR more believable then moving objects with your mind.

In response to ShadowDG



You can't say that. You havn't provided any evidence at all for your claim. Your claim is potentially so ground breaking that if, IF, your claim is proved real, then it could change the way we look at our existance. So, with something so potentially groundbreaking, of course we want evidence, and aren't going to be blind believers!



I'm not scared of the fact that there is more out there then our common knowledge and science tells us. Thats the reason I joined these forums in the first place...to seek out more knowledge of those things that are "unexplained".

Are you people completly ignorant to the ways of science? All we ask for is evidence so we can better understand, and hopefully believe what you say. When we do ask, you turn around and say that we are "lying to impower ourselves", "are scared of the truth," or something else completly obsurd.



As long as you guys keep making these claims, and refuse to present us with evidence, I'm not going anywhere.

natural human existance. we use 10% of our brain capacity. einstein used 13. there are so many unused parts of our brain, just consider that some people can harness little bits here and there. just because you cant, doesnt mean we cant.

Concentrate REALLY HARD, but be VERY RELAX , and picture in your mind the object moving like you want to,

Get some help. Go to school and learn some science.

That's not true, hon. We use all of our brains.

If you have done something or seen something that cant be explained its paranormal am i right? Well i have seen things that i know that cant be explained. I tried the psi wheel to see if it works and in my opinion is does. If you think making the psi wheel rotate in different directions when your thinking about it is just a coininsedence ( sorry english not strong point) then what do you skeptics think. Yeh it can be air currents or static but then again it might be not?

no big deal. It is just paper. There is not much one can do with paper.

Try focusing on ATM machines and car keys.

This will bring you many riches.

Yes, but thats not being debated.



I'm glad it works for you, now if you'd be so kind as to give us some proof to back up your claims, then we'd be happy to join you in believing...well, perhaps not full out believing yet, but we would be much, MUCH more open to believing you.



Ahh, the beauty of Spell Checker.

Once again, all we ask for is evidence, and we'd be more then happy to be more "open" and not "afraid of the truth".



As you said, it could be See, even you are bringing up logical reasons that can point to logical explanations.

sry, bout that, that was a little mean of me to say, i had a bad day, once again sry






that would be tk

No I'm not. I'm scared of the people out there who would abuse this kind of power. I'm begining to feel that such information (if true) should be kept to those who can use it more responsibly.
Don't hate on all skeptics just because some can be annoying. They can be important in learning more about this subject. We need at least some logic here, even if most "skeptics" just seem to want to insult people. I like to consider myself a semi-skeptic. I have my beliefs but I always like to back them up with evidence, preferably personal evidence.


No, that was spot on. I can't think of any good reason for practising this type of stuff at home. I guess it could lead to more control over your environment though. The reason I'm interested is because it's not accepted as real yet. I also would like to learn to levitate and fly around outside at night.

Woo! Nice



*queue's Mr. Ed with his excuse table*

Look, don't have a camera? Buy a cheap disposable one for $10.

And look, I have a girl on my lap every lunchtime (just sitting there of course.. nothing too dirty ). So I do not find your claim of sleeping with a couple, all that 'amazing'.
However, the fact that you compared it to explaining the impossible, rather tickles my pickle (As in, the food.. not THAT pickle ).
Are you implying that you sleeping with women is impossible?

LOL







So, so wrong.

You can buy a disposable video camera for $10?

Ah, ouila...
Behold the table of pathetic excuses for not being able to prove your powers!






Let's sort this out now. It won't be for once and for all, but I don't mind.

Skeptics have been known to flame these boards. I am not a skeptic, I am a me, but I have flamed these boards. I admit it. I have tried to stop it now and I think I have done so quite well. Too easy.

Now, whenever anyone lets a little bit of a flame out, you get believers attacking them. Fair enough.

But what I have just quoted, the scared thing, in my opinion anyone who uses this pathetic line really does deserve the negative responses they get.

Skeptics are scared? Scared that people openly believes this stuff without any form of proof and refuse to provide any, maybe. Scared because they refuse to believe the ravings of dozens of 14 year old cryokinesis pros? No.

Obviously not every believer uses this line, I respect the ones that don't.
But I think using that line is just as bad as a skeptic flaming a believer.

$10-$20 yeah.

You can go to CVS and get a little video camera for like $30, and then you bring it back to the store and they put the movie on a disk for you.

its realy not worth the 30 bucks, considering nomatter how good the film is, you guys will ditch it as a hoax anyway. i can do it, so what, why should i waste my time and money trying to convince skeptics. i couldnt care less if u belive me or not, honestly

Videos and photos are no longer proof of anything, any idiot can edit them.

this is true, but if you guies promise not to nail me with all sorts of hoax ideas, then ill post one. if i do, i just want to be sure that you guies will take it for what you will, and not criticize me in every way possible, if you have concerns about it being done externally (like breathing on it) and you have a solution, then tell me, but dont go yelling about how im editing it or something.

leme know if want a video, il do all i can to get it to you

i have a camera
dont live in remote area
dont give a **** about the media, they wouldent belive it
i dont have to justify myself, but if u guies legitamitly wana c it, then ill do it
dono if i can upload it yet, but proly
naw, only TK and empathy
im not deluded
you probly wont, but i don care
ill do my best
my parents know
i dont have a religon

how long do u guies want it to be, and do you want me to show you when im moving it (hands close) and when im not moving it (hands not present)? ill just let u guies know, i cant move it under a class bowl or w/e yet, but when i can ill let u kno nd make a video.

gime some spacifics of what u want the video to include nd ill do my best,

I dont think skeptics are afriad either, its just that they have a more constrained view of reality, and represent how most of the world would greet someone who claims to have psionic abilities, they represent the majority of the world, but the minority of the forum, its good to have them there.

Thankyou.

does anybody wana add to nething that im going to do on the video? cause im proly gona make it within the next week

There are always people who are afraid of new ideas and are unwilling to honostly consider them as valid because it is too big of a stretch for their idea of the world. I think most of the people who bother with flaming this site probably have some kind of inferiority thing going on as "some 14 year old" (which I believe is the skeptics name for anyone using psi) can do things, or at least has the audacity to claim to be able to, that they can't even fathom.

I also wonder, assuming his moms profession is being a medium as he claims it to be: do the skeptics present believe that he hasn't gotten sufficient negative responses to paranormal claims from people growing up? Do you realize why you're not even trying to help ANYTHING, just being a bully for no reason? Were you offering any new information to him, that'd count as giving him a dose of skepticism, but nearly all of what I see is cynicism and sarcasm.

I don't use psi, don't know if this is total bull, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
My absolutely unprofessional advice on how to move a psi wheel:
1.Exercise: I have read in places that are advising on how to get "spiritually" stronger (ie not specifically in reference to psi work) that exercise gives an important energy base.

2.Meditate or do so more frequently. Pretty much the key to being able to use your mind on any level is the ability to take out distractions. Bringing yourself to a near "sleep" state of mind. This means high delta and theta which essentially represents the "subcouncious" or whatever you wish to call it, don't think the beta (concious mind) helps aside from sending the "left" or "right" signal. don't know what role alpha plays, probably need a little or a lot as you're not trying to simply get in touch with your inner self.

3.Focus on the mental rather than the physical. I'm guessing you can move tin through some kind of controlled magnetism or whatever. I'm also guessing this is closely related to the body, maybe as all psi is. Command, or whatever you do, with your mind directly instead of with your hands.

Well, good luck.

I have never used psi, I rarely meditate and only used to exercise so all this is my educated guess. I'm giving it because I would like to see if I can help him move the paper wheel. I think it is safe to assume, even from a skeptical point of view, that he's not intentionally lying about the aluminum wheel as he gets sooo much negative response it wouldn't be worth it. Of course he might be a clever version of Mr Ed who's just coy enough to know how to really stir things up. Nothing personal, it's just that we all know who's advocate you are...

PS on the video, use at least two different angles, hold the camera steady, and make sure you can't be accused of magnets under the table or whatever.

im plannin on placing the cam on the table, and im going to show every piece of equipment that will be moving so that they can see theres nothing on it,

now i just need to find the camera

use marker to make it so that whatever you're spinning isn't one color, maybe use two markers each covering one quarter of it.