What is it about perfect that we do not understand?

Climbing Out of the Hole

Humanity is racing along in an age of apparent progress with its eyes wide open full of its own propaganda of how existence should be according to elitist scientific jargon. We think we came from the cave to find ourselves realized here in the 21st Century triumphant and glorious in our haughty expression of how we got here and from whence we came. We have evolved. Our children play with video games of simulation technology and virtual reality in what some call role-playing games. Oh how advanced we seem to one another in the face of reconstructing ourselves. We are of the mistaken belief that we are truly superior and man has never accomplished this heightened state of being prior to now.

To that I must state emphatically, no!

One has but to look at the pyramids on the plane of Giza and know it is a sincere lie we have been telling ourselves. If one would perform forensics upon those old structures and utilized the logical mentality that he/she was born with, they would know that a race of highly complex and talented beings applied a superior mentality and knowledge of engineering toward the materialization of these grand mysteries. We could not construct such even in this day. Egyptologists have sold us a lie for over 100 years and we have been so busy, that we have not stopped to think logically…It would take more than the copper tools and the muscle power they were supposed to have to build such massive complexes.

Use your mind...We have been H Y P E D... Egypt is the Key and we do not turn it.

Well, the above hardly constitutes as evidence, but yes the Egyptians were advanced.

[quote name='Orion von Koch' date='Sep 28 2005, 08:12 PM' post='865292']


they would know that a race of highly complex and talented beings applied a superior...

How nice to compliment the Egyptians!

there is no magic behiend the pyramids, just centuries of pyramid building... and actually the most perfect pyramid isnt one of the bigges.... in fact its actually one of the last ones they built... an empire which spans 2000 years... Its true they were highly advanced, the egyptians practically invented mathematics... they were expert engineers because they had centuries to pracitce.... there were literally thousands of pyramids built before the great pyramids... they had refined the process...

The only technology they posessed which we do not today is slave labor.

Agreed with Stix, they were just a talented civilization. The St.Peters Basilica, the Roman Colosseum, the Greek Pantheon, all of these are great constructs as well. We don't call the Romans Aliens, or superiorly advanced, along with the greeks. They all had their own talents, and views on architecture.

The bible clearly shows the pyramids were created by slaves.

There might have been thousands of pyraminds built prior to the Great one at Giza, but they are all below the oceans of the world. The great pyramids of Giza were the first to incorporate the methodology. Has anyone ever tried to make Granite perfect with copper tools? I suggest you all read Christopher Dunn's work called Forbidden History. In fact, unless you read his book, you have nothing to say here.

I love how people thnk we had to have help doing all of the wonderous things in in our ancient past. I choose to believe were just smart and did it over a long period of time. We didn't need alien help.

Yeah, the ancient Egyptians were so more advanced than we are that they were eventually conquered by far less advance civilizations, bred with other nationalities and no longer remain today as they were in ancient times. They were barbarians compared to how advance we are.

Very much agreed. Instead of using copper tools and granite rock, we use steel and grinders. I'd say we are more advanced. The day the Egyptians made a 747 Jet and flew around the world, I'd give them a bit more props. Till then, they are just as advanced as the Greeks and Romans.

Frosty.You are so witty. We are capable of building monuments. What makes more common sense? We built them or aliens helped. woo woo theory.We did it.

Incorrect. That is both Biblical (provoking sympathy) and Hollywood fiction. Slaves did not build the pyramids.
http://www.harvard-magazine.com/on-line/070391.html

Egyptians were advanced. they were performing plastic surgery thousands of years before us, also successful eye surgery as well. I'll get an additional link momentarily.
http://www.hindunet.org/alt_hindu/1994_2/msg00097.html
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And this is on the ceiling of a temple in Abydos, which suggests Ancient Egyptian technology. Do you see the helicopter-looking object in the left margin?
http://www.dudeman.net/siriusly/ufo/art/abydos3.jpg
Here's more.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt...3D%26ie%3DUTF-8

And how did Egyptians acquire tobacco and other substances long before people were supposedly
using boats?
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/Misc/mummies.htm


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They didn't use their slaves to build their pyramids.

Weren't the Egyptians only able to do quadratic equations to the third degree? Not nearly the level we can go to. I wonder if they used negative numbers at all or a zero. I'm sure if they had a decimal system that it was fairly crude. They worshipped their leaders as gods. Will you worship Bush as a god? Just some other thoughts to ponder.

Is that a fair question, given that Bush isn't "all there"??

Different time. Gods are still worshiped now. The Dali Lama is an example of a person considered of the divine. This does not take away from the Egyptians abilitly to build.

Herodotus was told by the Egyptians about 2700 after they were built that slaves were used, about 100k in all over a quarter century.

Many cultures have practiced body manipulations, but Yekeliah you make it out as though the Egyptians had perfected the technique. This technique was still in its primitve state or infancy. There is nothing to suggest how succesful these techniques were and whether they sterilized their equipment!

Those pictures of helicopters and UFO's and hovercrafts and what not are obviously fake. They have found similar artwork in caves in France but were able to come to a logical conclusion that people had gone in prior and made such details.

Dhali Lama is not a god. He is a spiritual leader supposedly reincarnated in his 14th stage of enlightenment or some sh** like that.




He represents leadership the of America, as many times he is often refered to as the leader of the free world.

I don't make it out as though they perfected it. what I'm trying to get at is that they were advanced for their time compared to other cultures. Don't you agree with that?
And those pics are not fake. I've been to Abydos, etc. Egyptian governments take great precaution to protect those temples, and have confirmed this. They are actually impossible to fake anyway. You'd have to carve it out so that it is raised, and it is thousands of years old, cannot be altered w/o altering the whole temple.

And once again, your quote is so fitting-"swamped in ignorance"

I did not say he was viewed as a god, I just said he was seen as from the divine.

And your point is? I meant "all there" as in dim-witted, Frosty.
(shakes head)

So you decided to post something completly not related to the subject matter? Whether you think he is dim witted or not makes no difference of the fact that he is the president of the US. If you stop shaking your head and killing so many brain cells you will see the ancient egyptians weren't very advance. For a society which existed for hurndreds of years without a major outside threat they decided rather than to devote their time to science and math they would build pyramids and other such temples for their godlike leaders. This wasn't a smart move on their part.

Actually, Frosty, you were the one that brought up president Bush, so that says a lot about your brain cells, or lack thereof. I responded to your post on Bush saying that it wasn't fair to compare him to an Egyptian-hence "all there". And the Egyptians obviously were advanced compared to other societies around them-it doesn't take an Egyptologist to realize that.

Well,

I don't know what you guys are saying, but we have some very strange things going on in the background. No matter what you may say, there is now very strong evidence that this earth was once extremely advanced and some catastrophe brought us down to where we are now. The evidence is there in the very technology of using extremely dense stone to create artifacts in Egypt including the Pyramid of Khufu where lines were shot via some unknown technique that allows fractional deviation within 350 feet in the decending tube and almost perfect leveling of the entire pyramid to within one inch in an area of 13 acres which is almost impossible. As a surveyor and engineering draftsman, I know this is just to perfect even with the tools we have today. Lifting giant slabs of granite weighing some 70 tons 170 feet in the air is even now almost impossible with some cranes. When scientists get right down to it...they always say...we don't know how they did it.

so you would have me believe they used flyind saucers and helicopters?

I don't think so.

It was built using slaves... it took acouple hundred years and hundreds of thousands of slaves, but they got it done... They've found ancient cities beside these pyramids and the only reason they exist was to house the slaves that built them... they were not treated horribly, they just had no choice.



I agree there could be some kind of lost civilization that humanity has sprung from... but I think that the pyramids were still built using slaves!

with 100 ropes, each with 100 people pulling, you could lift a 70 ton slab of granite...


OH, and I'm sure the easter island statues were transported using what? helicopters and UFOs? I dont think so... its the same method... those statues are multiple tons as well.

There is a link earlier in this page and other links on Google that you can find. The pyramids were built by those loyal to the pharaoh. Not slaves, and certainly not UFOs, just regular men of Egypt.

Correct, the book the God Code my be able to explain that, and it briefly mentions the Egyptians.

whether or not it was slaves who built the pyramid, stix is saying that with enough organized manpower that it's possible to carry the 70 ton blocks.

But what about the 300 ton brick? That one might be...difficult

No such book

You either mean Christopher Dunn's book The Giza Power Plant, or the book editored by J Douglas Kenyon called Forbidden History - which is a compilation of various articles published over the years in Atlantis Rising

wait, are you sure they did eye surgery? I was taught that they only did 'simple' surgeries, such as toe surgery and so forth.
plastic surgery and eye surgery seem to be way to complicated for them.

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ah, ok, that link finally opened up (¬_¬ its been slow) I was thinking about plastic surgery like our plastic surgery of today. but yeah from what i read, they could do that pretty easy.

but ew, cutting of a nose and replacing it with cheek skin

In the link it says plastic, which basically means "to mold" not so much like the plastic surgery of today. Didn't know they did toe surgery, cool, lol.
People were performing eye surgery as early as 1750 BC. I read one in an article, but I'll see if I can find a direct link for you. http://www.pasteur.fr/recherche/unites/REG.../Antiquity.html
"They would stick a needle through the patient's cornea and push the opaque lens aside so that light could get through to the retina. This procedure, performed also in Egypt and in Ancient Greece long before Christian times." I'll see if I can google the exact article it was in. This is an excerpt from the above link.
~1750 BC In Crete, Minos palace has light and air shafts, bathrooms with water supply. Irrigation system in Egypt systematically utilizes Nile floods. The Code of Hammurabi (who founds Babylonia) includes guidelines for medical practices (including eye surgery) and permissible fees. Babylonia uses highly developed geometry as basis for astronomic measurements and creates the signs of the zodiac. Tin is discovered and added to copper in metal alloys. The Babylonians solve linear and quadratic algebraic equations, compile tables of square and cube roots. They use Pythagoras's theorem and use mathematics to extend knowledge of astronomy.

So some of you believe that the Pyramids are just the usual kind of thing that one would expect to see from an unadvanced civilisation, hmmmm, some of you even think that the construction of said pyramids could be completed using slave labour .....riiiiiiight.

Well here are a few thoughts on this, as far as the advanced civilisation goes, they had help, or certainly had advanced knowledge that had come from somewhere or someone because all of a sudden they just seemed to spring from no where...that is of course...according to the "official" version of the history books.

Let us briefly consider a few matters concerning the construction of the Great Pyramid; matters which clearly indicate that the builders of fourth dynasty Egypt did not have the engineering capacity to erect the Great Pyramid (we do not have the capacity even today) and that this structure was used for a purpose altogether different from mere burial.

If they were to have built the pyramids with slave labour then they would still have had to work exceptionally hard. The pyramid (of Cheops (Khufu), would have been built in about 23 years with about 2.5 million stones. This means that every year 100,000 large blocks (285 per day), weighting an average of 2 1/2 tons must have been quarried, dressed, brought to the building site, and set in place. The King's Chamber is 10.46 meters east to west by 5.23 meters north to south by 5.81 meters high (a series of measurements that precisely expresses the mathematical proportion known as the Golden Mean, or Phi). It is built of enormous blocks of solid red granite (weighing as much as 50 tons) that were transported by a still-unknown means from the quarries of Aswan 600 miles to the south.

The Great Pyramid is constructed with approximately 2,300,000 limestone and granite blocks. Weighing between 2.5 and 50 tons each, these stone blocks had to be quarried from the earth. Herein lies our first unsolved problem. In the Cairo museum one can see several examples of simple copper and bronze saws, which Egyptologists claim are like those utilized in the cutting and shaping of the pyramid blocks. These tools present a problem. On the Mohs scale of mineral hardness, copper and bronze have a hardness of 3.5 to 4, while limestone has a hardness of 4 to 5 and granite of 5 to 6. The known tools would only barely cut through limestone and would be useless with granite. No archaeological examples of iron tools are found in early dynastic Egypt, yet even if they were, the best steels today have a hardness of only 5.5 and thus are inefficient for cutting granite. Some years ago Sir Flinders Petrie, one of the "fathers" of Egyptology proposed that the pyramid blocks had been cut with long saw blades studded with diamonds or corundum. But this idea presents problems too. The cutting of millions of blocks would require millions of rare and expensive diamonds and corundum, which constantly wear out and require replacement. It has been suggested that the limestone blocks were somehow cut with solutions of citric acid or vinegar, yet these very slow-acting agents leave the surface of the limestone pitted and rough, unlike the beautifully smooth surface found on the casing stones, and these agents are completely useless for the cutting of granite. The truth is, we have no idea how the blocks were actually quarried.

The unsolved problem of how the 2,300,000 very heavy blocks were transported to the building site of the pyramid is even more mystifying. How were the blocks taken to the nearly 500- foot height of the pyramid's summit? A Danish civil engineer, P. Garde-Hanson, has calculated that a ramp built all the way to the top of the pyramid would require 17.5 million cubic meters of material, this representing more than seven times the amount of material used for the pyramid itself, and a work force of 240,000 to build it in the time allotted by Cheops' reign. But if this enormous ramp were built, it would then require a force of more than 300,000 laborers as much as eight years to dismantle. Where would all the ramp material have been placed, since it is not to be found anywhere near the Great Pyramid? And what of maneuvering the precisely carved blocks into place without damaging the corners? Various lifting devices and levers have been proposed by modern engineers (remember, no existing dynastic records, paintings, or friezes give any clue to this mystery), but none solve the problem of how the 50-ton blocks of the main chamber were lifted and positioned using an area where only four to six workers could stand, when the strength of at least 2000 would be needed.

Next we come to perhaps the most extraordinary problem, that of the fashioning and placement of the highly polished limestone casing stones that covered the entire pyramid. The finished pyramid contained approximately 115,000 of these stones, each weighing ten tons or more. These stones were dressed on all six of their sides, not just the side exposed to the visible surface, to tolerances of .01 inch. They are set together so closely that a thin razor blade cannot be inserted between the stones. Egyptologist Petrie expressed his astonishment of this feat by writing, "Merely to place such stones in exact contact would be careful work, but to do so with cement in the joint seems almost impossible; it is to be compared to the finest opticians' work on the scale of acres." Herodotus, visiting in the fifth century BC, reported that inscriptions of strange characters were to be found on the pyramid's casing stones. In AD 1179 the Arab historian Abd el Latif recorded that these inscriptions were so numerous that they could have filled "more than ten thousand written pages." William of Baldensal, a European visitor of the early fourteenth century, tells how the stones were covered with strange symbols arranged in careful rows. Sadly, in 1356, following an earthquake that leveled Cairo, the Arabs robbed the pyramid of its beautiful casing of stones to rebuild mosques and fortresses in the city. As the stones were cut into smaller pieces and reshaped, all traces of the ancient inscriptions were removed from them. A great library of ageless wisdom was forever lost.

Still further evidence that the dynastic Egyptians did not construct the Great Pyramid may be found in sediments surrounding the base of the monument, in legends regarding watermarks on the stones halfway up its sides, and in salt incrustations found within. Silt sediments rising to fourteen feet around the base of the pyramid contain many seashells and fossils that have been radiocarbon-dated to be nearly twelve thousand years old. These sediments could have been deposited in such great quantities only by major sea flooding, an event the dynastic Egyptians could never have recorded because they were not living in the area until eight thousand years after the flood. This evidence alone suggests that the three main Giza pyramids are at least twelve thousand years old. In support of this ancient flood scenario, mysterious legends and records tell of watermarks that were clearly visible on the limestone casing stones of the Great Pyramid before those stones were removed by the Arabs. These watermarks were halfway up the sides of the pyramid, or about 400 feet above the present level of the Nile River. Further, when the Great Pyramid was first opened, incrustations of salt an inch thick were found inside. While much of this salt is known to be natural exudation from the stones of the pyramid, chemical analysis has shown that some of the salt has a mineral content consistent with salt from the sea. These salt incrustations, found at a height corresponding to the water level marks left on the exterior, are further evidence that at some time in the distant past the pyramid was submerged halfway up its height.

• The sides of the pyramid are lined up almost exactly with the cardinal points of the compass. The accuracy of this alignment is extraordinary, with an average discrepancy of only about three minutes of arc in any direction or a variation of less than 0.06 percent.
• The Great Pyramid functioned as an enormous sundial. Its shadow to the north, and its reflected sunlight to the south, accurately marked the annual dates of both the solstices and the equinoxes.
• The basic dimensions of the Great Pyramid incorporate measurements from which the earth's size and shape can be calculated. The pyramid is a scale model of the hemisphere, incorporating the geographical degrees of latitude and longitude. The latitude and longitude lines that intersect at the Great Pyramid (30 degrees north and 31 degrees east) cross more of the earth's land surface than any other lines, thus the pyramid is located at the center of the land mass of the earth (the pyramid is built on the closest suitable site to this intersection). The original perimeter of the pyramid equals exactly one-half minute of latitude at the equator, indicating that its builders measured the earth with extreme precision and recorded this information in the dimensions of the structure. Altogether these measurements show that the builders knew the exact dimensions of the planet as precisely as they have been recently determined by satellite surveys.
• The foundation of the Great Pyramid is amazingly level., No corner of its base is more than one-half inch higher or lower than the others. Considering that the pyramid's base covers more than thirteen acres, this near-perfect leveling far exceeds even the finest architectural standards of the present day.
• Measurements throughout the pyramid show that its constructors knew of the proportions of pi (3.14...), phi or the Golden Mean (1.618), and the "Pythagorean" triangles thousands of years before Pythagoras, the so-called father of geometry, lived
• Measurements show that the builders knew the precise spherical shape and size of the earth and had accurately charted such complex astronomical events as the precession of the equinoxes and the lunar standstill dates. The minute discrepancies of the lengths of the base of the pyramid (several inches over the 230 meter length of its base) reveal not an error on the part of the builders but an ingenious means of incorporating into the pyramid the "discrepancies" of the earth itself, in this case the flattening of the earth's globe at the poles.
• Shafts leading upward from the two main chambers, previously thought to be air shafts for ventilation, have been shown to have another purpose. A miniature electronic robot mechanically crawled sixty-five meters up the shafts and confirmed that the south and north shafts in the Kings Chamber are pointed to Al Nitak (Zeta Orionis) and Alpha Draconis respectively, while the south and north shafts of the Queens Chamber point to Sirius and Orion. The scientists conducting this research have shown that the layout of the three pyramids on the Giza plateau precisely mirror the position of the three main stars in the Orion constellation. (While crawling along one of the shafts in the Queens chamber, the robot's cameras photographed a previously unknown closed door that may lead to some hidden chamber.) Readers interested in these new findings should consult The Orion Mystery by Robert Bauval and Adrian Gilbert.

What does all this mean? Why did the ancient builders of the Giza pyramids, whoever they may have been, encode so much precise mathematical, geographic, and astronomical information into their structures? What was the purpose of the Great Pyramid? While no authoritative answer can presently be given to this question, two intriguing matters suggest a direction for further inquiry and research. The first has to do with the persistent legends that the Great Pyramid, and especially the main chamber, were used as some sort of sacred initiation center. According to one legend, students who had first undergone long years of preparation, meditation and metaphysical instruction in an esoteric school (the mythic "Hall of Records" hidden deep beneath the desert sands somewhere near the Great Pyramid and the Sphynx) were placed in the granite coffer of the main chamber and left alone throughout an entire night. The coffer was the focal point of the energies gathered, concentrated, aimed, and directed at the main chamber by virtue of the precise mathematical location, alignment, and construction of the pyramid. These energies, considered to be especially potent at certain precisely calculated periods when the earth was in a particular geometric alignment with solar, lunar, and stellar objects, were conducive to the awakening, stimulation, and acceleration of spiritual consciousness in the suitably prepared adept. While it is now nearly impossible to spend an evening alone in the coffer of the main chamber, it is interesting to read the reports of those persons who have done so in the past. Mention will be made of experiences both terribly frightening (perhaps because of the lack of any appropriate training on the part of the experimenter) and also deeply peaceful, even spiritually illuminating. Napolean himself spent a night alone in the chamber. Emerging pale and dazed, he would not speak of his powerful experiences, only saying, "You would not believe me if I told you." A second matter needing further inquiry from the scientific community studying the Great Pyramid - and one that might help explain the subject just discussed - concerns the matter of unexplained energetic anomalies frequently noticed and recorded in the main chamber.

In the 1920s, a Frenchman named Antoine Bovis made the surprising discovery that, despite the heat and high humidity of the main chamber, the dead bodies of animals left in the chamber did not decay but completely dehydrated. Thinking that there might be some relationship between this phenomena and the position of the main chamber in the pyramid, Bovis constructed a small-scale model of the pyramid, oriented it to the same direction as the Great Pyramid, and placed the body of a dead cat at the approximate level of the main chamber. The result was the same. As he had observed in the Great Pyramid, the cat's body did not decay. In the 1960s, researchers in Czechoslovakia and the U.S., conducting limited studies of the geometry of the pyramid, repeated this experiment with the same results. They also found that the form of the pyramid somehow mysteriously kept foods preserved without spoiling, sharpened dull razor blades, induced plants to germinate and grow more quickly, and hastened the healing of animals' wounds. Other scientists, in consideration of the high quartz content of the granite blocks in the main chamber and the incredible pressures those blocks are subjected to, theorized that the main chamber may have been the focal point of a powerful piezoelectric field; magnetometer measurements inside the chamber indeed showed higher levels than the normal background geomagnetic field.

Although much research remains to be done in these areas, legend, archaeology, mathematics, and earth sciences seem to indicate that the Great Pyramid was a monumental device for gathering, amplifying, and focusing a mysterious energy field for the spiritual benefit of human beings. We do not know exactly how the pyramid and its main chamber were used, and the geometric structure of the pyramid has been subtly altered by the removal of the casing stones and the cap-stone. None-the-less, the Great Pyramid of the Giza plateau still emanates great power as a transformational power place. It has done so for uncounted thousands of years and seems destined to continue for ages to come.

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You're information is very appreciated.

There is no evidence to point that ancient man was any less intelligent than modern man. History books are constantly being rewritten. They were very much capable of having complex ideas, and I wouldn't be surprised if there was much, much more to discover on the ancients.

heh, yeah, its really sick. they remove the nail if its ingrown and stuff. - and i dont think they had sedatives during this 0_0 -

great post



I'm curious, when was the capstone supposedly removed? I was under the impression that it was never finished, but will be soon. the stone cut out of the mountain without hands

could you shed some light on this?

Could it be that the unfinished "capstone" was intentional viz a viz the symbolism of imperfection transforming into perfection (see:mystery schools of various heritage)

The use of Fibonacci Numbers and by extension the sq root of 5 , the golden mean and pythagorean and euclidian geometry all seem to have echoes in the heavens as i have shown on another thread.

Pr"E"cession , the cycles of Jupiter /saturn conjunctions , the cycles of "the transits of Venus" , Mayan super Numbers ...the list goes on ..... and on

The placement and relative global position of things like Angkor , Giza , Nazca , Easter island , stonehenge all reflect this knowledge of "irrational No's" or "surds" if you like ...esp those that were inverse / reciprocal and how they manifested , both here on Earth and in our solar system and the galaxy at large.

In addition , it appears that these (this??) civilisation had a very good understanding of "zero" , and , this is more important than it at first seems.


"place not too much faith in this my son for it is yet too young."

The above is my way of saying that a full assessment of their skills and beliefs is just not possible ....at least for the time being.

Check the temple of man at alexandria.

PS the 52 (51deg51min) is the slope of the pyramid's sides , the position of stonhenge is 51deg51'N !!!

There is , however , no direct "link" between the two sites other than to say both cultures observed the same thing .

Having said that , the two places are connected mathematically inasmuch as the distance between them is a precise factor of the earths Diameter and Pi , expressed as a "radian"

curiouser and curiouser.

Mike , maybe i'm reading a little too much into 'things" but the line ....



has very strong echoes today in the line .....

"the son of the widow , which was the stone rejected will become head of the corner"

again ....curiouser and curiouser ...... i wonder if the "real" capstone is yet to be found ..or ....associated

well the egytians were very very highly intelligent...more then us today...but there weren't all born with this...most were probably born and eat up with the dumass disease...but there is a guy by the name of " the brainman" and he can do HUGE MASSIVE calculations with his brain alone...nothing else. I mean he can go up to 200,000 digits in PIE. Well I've done exclusive research on this guy and supposbly his DNA could be the missing link to an advanced civilation that was once on earth that had the ability that he has today. Same with a girl with x-ray eyes...she can look at you and tell you what is wrong with u by seeing thru ur body.

There is a direct link to these two sites, both are built on top of converging lay-lines. All energy is neutral and can therefore be harnessed and used in whatever way good or bad by whoever is harnessing it. When two ley-lines converge they give the most powerful source of energy and many ancient civilisations knew this and therefore built there buildings on top of such places for that very reason.

What is that quote you are referring to from? "the stone cut out of the mountain without hands" is from the book of Daniel



yes I believe he's coming back to finish the job soon