I just wanted to ask other people's opinions about this. I believe it has things to do with Telekinesis, so please do share your thoughts on it.
One night I was dreaming about 2 plates floating (stacked above each other) through my kitchen. I awoke suddenly to the sound of plates landing on the kitchen table.

Ive been trying to move this PSI wheel but so far there is no success. I have "aura vision" but thats it. I was wondering whether the experience above was TK, and if so, how come there is an obstacle not letting me move the PSI wheel.


Any ideas?

Also, just wondering if anyone here experiences extreme strength when very angry.

Does anyone think that this could be a new psychic ability? The ability to go past all strengths of natural humans and perhaps even break into the different sorts of Kinesis?

Just a thought.

Firstly, about the plate thing, I have no idea. I guess it's possible but did you actually go and see if the plates had really fallen or did you just hear a noise?

Secondly, what kind of strength are we talking about here? If you were simply able to lift something heavy because you were angry then thats pretty normal. If you mean "extreme" strength like lifting cars or something, I've heard of that before, (Something about a Russian mother lifting a car off her child?) this was often refered to as using Ki energy in extreme cases. Like you get so emotionally wound up you start lifting with you Soul rather than just your body... never done that before. Dont plan to.

So what kind of strength do you mean? And no that wouldn't be a psychic power.

Thanks for the info. I mean in the sense that from such anger you can move extremely heavy things.
Example. I was really angry, and I have this mirror in my room that moves on this kind of rail at the bottom (sorry if it doesnt make sense). I was so angry, I actually moved the mirror OFF The rail, and the mirror is the length of the wall and extremely heavy.

Also, arent there cases of people's anger setting off Telekinesis and such? From such heavy emotion, people just scream and plates just float out and smash. Something of the like.

Ideas?

Sorry, I've never heard of people getting extreme telekinesis due to anger.
I've never heard of people actually using telekinesis without anger
Can't help you there.

You either did not place the plates properly on the shelf or need to let the cat out at night. Can't see how TK comes into this though unless you have something a bit more concrete.

It was just a thought. Every time I go to move the PSI wheel, it nudges towards a movement. Could that be TK? I doubt I have skill in TK, but I was interested in it. And any ideas on Aura vision and if that links in with other psychic power?

I wish I could do that

I'm very skeptic about psychic "powers". If their are as many people that practice them on this forum and succeed, why haven't I seen any? Nor, have I seen them on T.V. Face it...you're just imagining most of this.

I do believe in Da Sha Vu...to which I have about every day and night. One time I remember dreaming about it, before it happened. Which is the most oddist experience i've ever had.

Psi wheels are affected by static electricity. Just make sure its not that you are observing.

Yeah the psychic thing is hard to believe. The PSI wheel is something I DONT believe in, it just seems far-fetched. However, the Aura-vision I do believe in. Everybody has their own distinct colour around them and I've seen it for ages now...then again, my eyes could be screwed

Whats your opinion on the Aura vision?
Also, tell me about that De Ja Vu thing, Im interested!

I agree, that seems the logical explanation. Oh well, its fun to dream hey

it's strange you should mention that flame thrower because i had a friend who told me something just like what you did before. she said that she was sleeping one night and she woke up, and right as she woke up she saw a lamp levitating in front of her in mid air, and at same second she saw it (which was the same second she had woken up), it fell to the ground just as you described. personally, i don't know about telekinesis, i think it would have to just come naturally seeing as your mind can do it subconsiously as you sleep, then it must take some certain state of mind, be it meditation or just deep relaxation to acheive. however it you were able to do this at will, that would be pretty F'ing cool. alright peace.

oh yeah, also about the extreme strength you were asking about, yeah i get that when i'm really angry. but it might just be nothing because even when i'm not angry i'm pretty strong, especially for my age. but being angry when working out does seem to help to some degree, but you can't just count on anger. at the end of the day, it depends on the person and how much they want it. but there are accounts of people who in certain cases of extreme stress or danger, develop super strength, (super strength in a sense of it being beyond anything they can do normally.) but it doesn't always happen to everyone.

I have did something like that but it was with the psi wheel foil one i made it levatate a little bit but now i cant do it again and i have bin trying for ages i can only move the foil 1 but no the paper 1

That is an outright falcity.

Hey, thanks for your ideas, I really appreciate it. That is exactly what Im talking about. I had an idea that perhaps in waking hours, the mind just builds up this idea that "no I cant do it" so TK isnt achieved. Indeed, if one could put a grasp on the ability, because it seems to be strong if it moves lamps or plates, then yes, it would be F'ing cool!

About the super strength, thats what I thought. I seem to have amazing strength when angry that just never appears in everyday life. I also think if a person could learn to control it and use it at will, then that would be amazing.
Thanks again,

Peace

Wow, you could make it levitate. That is awesome. Perhaps there is a scientific reason behind not moving the paper one. I also have extreme trouble using a paper PSI wheel, so to test this, I will use foil this time.
Do you remember your state of mind at the time? Perhaps that is the problem. Maybe you have already told yourself you cannot do it. If you already have, then it is possible, so always tell yourself that.

Thanks,

Peace

A falsity? How so? I do agree it is far fetched, but one must be open to all possibilities.

Peace.

If he could visibly levitate an object he would not be a teenager on a paranormal forum.

Haha I sit down to that, that was a mighty good call.

If the plates couldn't have gotten there by falling down from a shelf or something similar, and you were alone in the house, you might consider the option that it *could* be a case of "poltergeisting". That is, uncontrolled pk activity. Fairly common, according to those who study the phenomenon.

And, come on folks, I know being sceptic is good, but so is being scientific. There are too many examples of documented pk to deny the existence of it.
What? You haven't read any books on the subject? Never bought a book on laboratory pk experiments? The famous dice experiments? Seriously.

Hehe... Feel your hatred, young Skywalker. Let it fuel your power.

LOL haha, if only hey? So you think its uncontrolled PK activity? If so, has there been a way to control it? Has anyone ever 'mastered the power' or something like that?

Peace.

Well i was very relaxed and i was thinking of it just to rise a little and it did then i lost my state of mind because i was excited of wot i just done its all about belief if u say if cant be done than you have failed if i can get it on camrea i will send in it


Adios

Well, actually, I *don't* think it's poltergeist activity, simply because I don't know enough about the circumstances.
And if you are to believe, for example, the psipog staff, and at least half of the psipog and psiscape community yes, someone has harnessed this power.

Peace to you too.

Oh please don't go there. Every time someone claims that they can do it and even mentions proof of any kind it inspires 20 pages of arguement between the believers and non-believers who both just argue to argue and nobody ever wins, nobody ever provides proof and most of us are sick of hearing it.

I am getting so sick of the telekinesis topic that I'm about on my last tolerance thread with this forum. It is the very few serious topics that keep me around and the more those topics get pushed to the end of the list by one after another thread of arguements about how telekinesis is real or not, it just gets so damn old!

Is it possible for the mods to create a forum of its own for the telekinetic believers so those of us in this forum can get something besides pages and pages of pointless arguements?

Exactly.



The sub forum here is meant for believers, I think. It would probably be better if the 'I don't care what your views are I can levitate foil' people went there.

About the super strength......it's called a Fight or Flight response. When you are angry or in a tense situation, you're body releases adrenaline. It makes your heart beat faster, yeah breath harder. You take in more oxygen, allowing you to run farther and faster then you normally can. It also increases blood and oxygen flow to the brain and muscles, increasing thought speed, reflexes, and strength.



Nothing supernatural about it at all.

Lol, It took me a while to get through that.

I think that first of all, I dont want people coming and saying, Hey I can levitate, and then someone coming and saying, No you cant you liar, etc etc.

Basically, Im out for just some normal discussion on a few topics that go around telekinesis and the like.
I too dont want pages and pages of arguments. I want either people who *claim* to do it, because hey, you never know, or people with scientific answers or people with even just a bit of information on the topic. I dont really want to bother with people coming on saying stuff that creates pages of back and forth bickering.

And seriously, if I EVER get proof of me levitating a pencil etc, I will post it up here for all to see.

I agree with the flight or fight response because that seems to bring out a lot of strength and ability in human beings. But do you think it is possible for the flight or fight response to bring out other abilities, concerning Kinesis, IF they existed (for all those people waiting to see if Im going to say, yeah they do exist or no they dont )
Say all Kinesis needed was for the person to feel EXTREME emotion. It would work differently for different people, because some people might only work good when overly joyous, and others when they are raged.

To ShadowDG, how far did it rise, and have you ever experienced more telekinesis (IF he did, for those still waiting) experiencing extreme emotions?

I am extremely interested in running a few tests to see what I think about the topic. Any ideas on how I may run an experiment, of course with footage of it? I want to, in my mind, disprove or prove it.

Thanks for the comments,
Peace.

Hmmm.....well, like I said, Fight or Flight lets adreniline into your body, inhancing everything...it's that crazy rush you get when nervous, scared, excited etc. So, if we assume for a moment that psi or whatever is you body "manipulating" energy fields and what not, then adreniline may inhance that ability. But, as I am rather sceptical towards psi and the like, I'm not sure

Yeah, see the adreniline brings out other things in the human body and whatnot, so say the 'energies' that you are 'manipulating' needed that extra boost in the human body. The adrenaline makes everything else in your body go nuts basically, so the 'kinesis abilities' might use that extra physical energy to say convert that into kinesis energy.
It could be that kinesis is not acheived because there is not enough power or energy to feed off from the body.

Just a thought.
Peace.

Adrenaline.

I broke a guy's bone once accidently... too much Calcium in my diet.

Well i have done biology and psycology in skool and collage i know all about the mind and body am not skeptic but i have done research and we only use 20% of the brain power so whats the 80% for nothing my a** we can tap into this 80% during emotions, sleep anything but most of the time u dont know when your doing it its like breathing its involenteery your body does it itsself and if he harness more brain power than more things can be done. About the psi well it was much but it did rise a bit then it fell then fell off the needle but you know what all these people who dont believe say no u cant its not possible well if you dont believe go away because want to talk about telekinesis but we have you in our ears say no it cant be done

thanks

haha, Replacement100, too much calcium. Poor guy on the other side of that strength

ShadowDG, see thats what I was thinking. Humans only use around 10% of their brain power. So say, what is the rest of that percentage for?
I agree with the idea that we can tap into it while sleeping, because all the blocks that we had placed in our minds suddenly disappear, and there is no doubt in our minds whether we want to do something such as levitate plates, etc.
Indeed, it could be involuntary, something that comes programmed with the mind, but it might need to feed off extra emotion etc, so it never actually happens. That or we doubt ourselves too much, etc.

I am not a skeptic or a real believer, which is why Im doing some research and asking around. I do believe its possible, but with scientific explanation. On the topic of energies, I agree with the idea that everything in the world interrelates and gives off vibrations, so its possible to tap into other objects or beings energies and form a sort of kinesis.

Peace out.

i once read that if u are extremely angry or happy, and you are taking in the chi around u
(absorbing) a special power of yours may rise.

The percentage only refers to processing power and not surface area of the brain. The facts that your brain accumulates during a lifetime require a lot of storage area and potential new association capacity to understand new concepts. Remarkable yes...indication of paranormal....no.

I was saying that it is possible to connect with this unknown percentage of the brain and we dont know what its capiable of maybe it is capiable of doing all sorts of different kinesises i didnt say its all paranormal but u skeptics cant say u know coz you dont so dont try and change believes beliefs.

Over and out

You are already using the entirety of your brain...any of you people done biology in school?

Sceptics dont know for sure but at least they state facts. Believers just believe and they certainly know not. Faith maybe enough for you but its not for us. Deal with it.

I agree with the idea that if you are experiencing an extreme emotion then it could bring out something in human beings that is not usually shown because you hear of people who when angry, just seem to break things without touching them, etc. I also think that when connecting with this unused potential in the brain, there has to be something to be unlocked within the brain. I also think that well, we cant say for sure it exists and say for sure it doesnt. Hence, unexplained mysteries

Peace out.

(To you who haven't heard about the "10%myth", and the fact that we use the entirety of our brains, check google:) Ten percent myth

By your definition, I'm not a believer. I would never really believe in anything unless I had proof. It was with scepticism and doubt I first moved a wheel under a container telekinetically, but now that I have gotten proof for TK (in more than one way), I think the phenomenon deserves to be investigated further.
Because of this, I think it is a bit wrong to call those who claim to be psions "believers".

Then again, many of you may think I'm lying. I'm okay with that, as long as you can talk about it without flaming.

Because you dont believe yuor basicly saying its not possible to do anything unknown or paranormal theres loads and loads and loads and loads of stuff we dont know so DEAL WITH IT!!!

How about you deal with the fact your beleiving in something uproven. Get over yourself.

Please dont turn this into a name calling match or anything else of the sort.

I also think that the phenomenon deserves to be investigated further because people like yourself, Bob Stew, have moved it beneath a container. I really do think there is a scientific explanation.

I have also come to be believe that it doesnt matter whether you believe or not. I think if you have skill in Telekinesis or anything else, then your power will get past the barrier.

Post more later

Peace out.