So you've been checked over by the medical profession to be on the safe side? If I was in your situation I would try everything; including medical assistance, even if it was to prove that there was nothing medically wrong. At least when people suggest it you can then say "my doctor agrees with me and I'm not imagining it"...

Oh my lordy, your calling that stuff magic of all things???




Rosemary, perhaps if you aren't willing to care or listen to others and their stories, why would we help you? In all honesty we are just trying to keep our mind open to possibilities, and many of your claims could be considered psychotic, I'm saying this along with BuyMeAPony's point, when she stated how are the claims you've personally met Jesus or Albert Einstein, any different from claiming to be Jesus himself?

I want to leave with one final note that this is just to be much to handle, it doesn't add up, and it seems like your way is the best way, instead of seeking a professional's help or maybe even coming to an agreement that these may not be your relatives at all, but, my point remains the same only you can recognize this for what it is, it is enitrely up to you whether to seek help, or tell us your stories which haven't lead anywhere towards a productive path.

Now, I'm helping a few others with their problems at the moment, any advice I've given them they have handled well and have seeked out other reaches of what could be their situation, they listen carefully and take any suggestion that comes their way, but it sounds like these are just claims, nothing more, I don't think anyone will take this seriously ( besides a few others) if at first you can't stop and think of what should be done, what is going on and why is this happening, instead of having all the answers for yourself.

Hope this has been helpful

Well, I don't think there was any real need to react so unkindly to my sharing of my uncle's problems, although I realize you likely also feel "singled out" and personally attacked due to most of the responses' skeptical attitudes and alternative explanations for your complaints.

I was simply providing my own second-hand observation of what seems to me to be a similar situation, and its eventual outcome. I didn't say it was or was not the explanation for your own turmoils, nor did I even say that he was "cured" - he was not, fully. But whatever it is, has been minimized to a tolerable level for him.

I provided it as one established fact which can be used for viewing and measuring your own situation and deciding for yourself how similar or dissimilar the two are.

As I said before, beliefs aside, I still wish you the very best and that instead of opposing and worrying over the negative, that you strive for the positive, not wasting your time and energy on conflict, and instead focus on progress.

I'm sorry if I got too mean but I am trying to say that that situation I believe is entirely different from mine?
I really don't know if your uncle had some of my problems and others convinced him he is crazy or not but I am a Psychic channel and I know the difference now.
But anyway I am giving an update on my situation which I am hoping will be clearer soon and perhaps solved but we will have to wait and see on that.
The other day I contacted a Worldwide International site which has people in the U.S. and other countries and wrote them an E-Mail telling them my Story and they got back to me then I wrote to them again and this morning I got an E-Mail saying they will put me in touch with a Local man who is also a Demonologist and hopefully he will come into my home and take pictures or whatever they do and I am hoping he will have equipment that might detect the spirits inside my body.
This might not only help me solve my problem but could also be good for Paranormal Research if I can get someone with experience in these things like these people to make recordings and verify that I am having these problems.
I am enthusiastically awaiting his contacting me so we can get started on this Investigation and see what happens.
I'll keep people updated on what happens and what he says and hopefully in the future make believers out of some of you.
And hopefully they will use whatever proof they find in their work because I feel it will further Research if they are able to write about the investigation and verify some of the things I am saying.

I take it that's a "no" then Rosemary?

The answer is yes and in fact the Psychiatrist that I talked to who was an associate of Dr. P. told me he is from India and he does believe in Spirits and he told me if someone could do this to a Human from the Spirit World it would be Dr. P. because he said behind the scenes unbeknownst to anyone Dr. P. had a lot more personal problems than anyone knew about.
so the Answer is yes.
Not to be mean about this but I must insist that I am telling the truth and this morning I got an E-Mail from a paranormal agency who said they will put me in touch with a paranormal investigator from my area who is also a demonologist and as he contacts me and I see what he comes up with I will see if he offers anything to help me prove what I am writing.
My only interest here is in Paranormal Research and of course helping myself solve this situation so that others who may have such a problem will know how to solve it.
I just read a great article on either UM or ghost mysteries that talks about conflict in the Paranormal Community that I think is very interesting it talks a lot about different opinions and why things happen and how we all believe and I would would like for everyone who wants to read it its so interesting and its a very long article but worth the read.
The title is something about 'The Paranormal Community Unveiled', January 3, 2006, and it talks about peoples reactions to other peoples experiences and how we need to keep an open mnd and I am not writing this specifically to you I am only suggesting it as a good read to anyone who would like to log on and read it.

Doesn't it worry you that the psychiatrist you saw is an associate of one of these spirits? Also, isn't he breaking patient confidentiality by telling you of Dr P's problems? (I know Dr P is no longer living, but I thought patient confidentiality went past death?) Did you seek out an associate of Dr P on purpose? I apologise for all the questions, and I'm in no way meaning this to offend you, I'm just trying to understand your situation from all angles



I'm pleased to see you're making some progress in investigating this, good luck



I'll certainly make a point of having a read, thankyou for the information

I did seek out the associate of Dr. P. because first of all I knew he came from a country who believes in these things and also I thought that Dr. P. sitting inside my body would be close to the Dr. when I talked to him and it might influence him to leave my body.
However just the opposite occurred when the Dr. said these derogatory and personal things about him and this is when he decided he would prove if there is a Higher Power who can physically remove him and his friends from my Body.
You see I have been trying to find a Priest or a Demonologist who believes in these things and see if they can physically force them from my body or talk them out and in doing this I will be able to prove what really happens during an Exorcism and be able to write about it as a Paranormal Researcher.
In the meantime I got on this board and tried to tell about all the experiences I have had both good and bad and get peoples reaction to what is happening to me so that others who want to do these things will be aware of the good and the bad of communicating with the Spirit World.
I think as time goes on that people will realize I didn't tell my Story here to get someone to save me but had I attracted the interest of a Priest or others who would want to try to solve the problem then I thought the Experience could surely further Paranormal Research.
I think at times you want to believe me but I know that is a tall order, but nevertheless its all true and while the things I am experiencing are not always pleasant I do feel telling the Story is important to Paranormal Research.

Hi Rosemary ...hope things work out for you.....any further idea's regarding my last pm to you ?

I don't disbelieve you; I understand that everything you describe you have experienced in a very real way. I just feel that it deserves investigation into exactly what it is rather than blind faith on what the spirits have told you. What proof do you have that they are who they say they are and that the things they tell you are true? (I apologise if you've already answered this; it's very possible I haven't read all your posts)



Would you consider talking to another doctor? I understand that you'd want to talk to someone who knows the background on the subject, but a lot of people on the boards will be very skeptical of the fact you haven't sought out a second opinion.

I really don't feel that is necessary, after all I don't think anyone would ask Sylvia Brown or John Edwards to submit to being Analyzed by a battery of Doctors.
I guess its hard for people to believe the things that I or any Psychic tells them and I guess that's just the way it is.

Sylvia Browne is a arrogant fraud.So is John Edwards. Bad examples.

the knife thing has happened to me, it hurts.

I'm sorry but I disagree I have watched them very closely and I feel they are 100% good Psychics and of course the people who disbelieve me also disbelieve them.

Sylvie Browne's predictions are BS. 99% of them never come true and the other 1% are so general that anyone could make them. John Edwards is a obvious cold reader. Both of these frauds steal money from their clients with this crap.I disbeleive you because I think something is wrong medically. They are just out and out frauds.

I assure you there is nothing wrong medically, I am just another old run of the Mill Psychic trying to share some of my experiences, hoping that others will begin to see I am right and develop their psychic Gift which I believe everyone has and if they choose to they can channel for Spirit and then they will see how difficult it is to get others to believe what you are trying to tell them.
The Life of a psychic Channel is not an easy one.

No comment on the fact Sylvia Browne's predicitons have been proven to be worthless.

If he is infact so famous, how come when you google it, all you come up with is this:

http://www.google.com/search?q=Stergio+Pet...UNA:en&filter=0

Do you have other links you could share showing information about this doctor?

I, so far, have been unable to find the area where you explain in detail when and how this exactly happened. Could you please elaborate, or show me a post that shows where you say exactly what happened. Not the usual "There are spirits in my body from the 40s, 50s, and 60s", but something like "I woke up one day and went to the store...while I was there, these spirits came into my body like a rush of air" or whatever happened.

If you are possessed, why would you encourage others to follow that path? That doesn't make sense to me at all.

I feel like you should seek a second opinion regarding your mental health, just to be sure. Someone who doesn't know the doctor you speak of. Then if they in fact find nothing wrong with you, I would go to the next step and contact a demonologist (NOT a medium, as I believe this would make your already bad situation much worse). Less talk more action I say. Whether this is mental or reality, you are in a lot of trouble, and things can only get worse from here.

All of this is true and I don't have a mental problem.
You ask if this is happening to me why would I encourage others to follow my path?
I am just writing about my experience and I would also like to say the reason I continue to work with other spirits and i will always continue to work with my other Spirit Contacts because these three Relatives and Dr. P. set out to force me to do what they want and one of the things they tried to force me to do is become so terrified of them that I would send the other guides away who wanted to work in the right way and give me wonderful information and help the world look for Cures and give prophetic information for the future.
Those Guides I trust and will always work with and in the meantime I refuse to come under the complete control of these three Relatives and Dr. P. who order me each day to send the ohers away and you can see I can not do that because this would be admitting that they have control over me and the Guides i want to write with in peace and harmony.
No I don't believe these Possessions happen to everyone but I did want to tell people that once in a while you may have a mean Relative or associate who dies and they don't like to be there while I or you are now here enjoying our life and at times some like this just want to tell people they are here and they want to do it in a mean, spiteful way.
So no I have nothing mental about me I am just a Psychic who has had good and bad and sometimes Great Experiences as I communicate with the After Life and in fact some of the good helpful Guides keep me strong against these four and inf act these four are too afraid to come out and face a Higher power in the Spirit World after what they have done to me and to cover up their fear and cowardace they continue to hide inside my body and cause me pain.
You say I should contact a Demonoligist and you are exactly right.
I did again contact a Paranormal group and this time they appear to be going to follow through and yesterday I called the one who is local and says he can help and I am waiting for his call back to arrange a meeting and I'll write about what ever happens.
This is about paranormal Research and I believe I should share with the World the things I learn as a Channeller for Spirit.
There are good Spirits there and they want to help us here on Earth but there are a few like the ones I'm writing about and I just want others to know about that.
For the most part I don't believe most people have anything to worry about.
I'm dealing with a man who was obsessed with me when he walked the Earth and he won't let go from beyond the Veil of Death and unfortunately my three Relatives who have a few issues with me about how I lived my life after they passed over and they are back to help him try to control me and force me to do what they want.
I want Freedom and this is why I am writing here hoping their friends and relatives back on Earth come to realize just how ugly these formerly so called nice people were and how they are not so happy in the Promised land after all.
This man who was a former Psychiatrist of Great Renown in our area is beside himself with Glee when people mention Mental Problems because he in the beginning forsaw this happening and he feels very successful at this point in time, but can the Demonoligst help him come to terms with a spurned love and leave my body and apologize to me and if he does perhaps in the future the four of them could write as experimental animals but it will take a lot of apologizing before I forgive them for what they have done to me.
Because I knew them when they walked the Earth I am still trying to work things out with them.
I am writing here to cope with them and try to talk them into changing and also to further Psychic Research and peoples belief in Life after Death.
Even Athiests die and go to the Spirit World and as far as I know Athiests don't go to Hell if all they do is object to the premise of God but whether they agree or not they still go to the Spirit World when they die.
People who commit multiple Murders don't go to Hell as far as I can tell because I have several Former Serial Killers right here writing through me as Reformed Guides and I don't mention them again here because I don't want to be a Name Dropper.
But one of them was riding in that car in Dallas back on November 22, 1963.
And the second one was Killed at the Democratic National Convention back in l968 while running for the office of the president of the United States.
I know you say how could I say they are writing through me and I will say when you are in the Spirit World you will channel through just about anyone if they can put you in contact with Earth.

Most people with serious mental illness say that exact same thing unfortunately.



I thought you had already done this (?) around October sometime. Do you know what the possible hold up could be?



I thought you said they were the nice ones and he was the mean one....but then again, in another post you said he was the nice one, and they were controling him, and you now feel sorry for him.... Rosemary....seriously...you need to contact another doctor. If you are infact having mental problems, you would never know it. People with this disorder have very similar experiences, and it is VERY real to them in the same way it is real to you. For your own benefit, you seriously need to atleast TRY letting someone help you.

I again ask, although it doesn't seem you will EVER answer this question, how did this start? How did they come into your body? What EXACTLY were you doing? Do you even remember?



By now, surely you realize that convincing the people of UM is not going to help you. Only a doctor can, and if he can't, then a demonologist will have to. Human spirits do not possess people Rosemary. Demons can, and they can also read your thoughts enough to know what your opinions are about your dead relatives, and therefor trick you into thinking you are possessed by your relatives instead of demons, so that you will not take major action against them. Either way, you are in trouble Rosemary, you need help. PLEASE, for your own sake get some help. If you are so open minded, you cannot dispute the POSSIBILITY, even if it is a small one, that you might have some mental problems causing this, so PLEASE try talking wtih a real psychiatrist just to ensure this is not a mental disorder. I realize you feel like that is not needed, but trust me when I tell you, if you have a mental problem causing this, YOU WON'T BE AWARE OF IT. You will be FULLY CONVINCED as you are now that you have these four spirits inside your body. PLLLEEAASSEE at least for your own mental and physical health rule that out with a real doctor, not a friend of one of the "spirits" you think you have in your body. Don't you OWE it to yourself to at least do that?



This is where you are messing up. You need to stop trying to work anything out with them. They aren't what you think, and they aren't really going to work anything out Rosemary. Please read this: http://www.warrens.net/main.htm
Go to INVESTIGATIONS, then LEGENDARY CASES, then "ANNABELLE" and read the information there. You HAVE to be rational and atleast CONSIDER the possibility that this isn't what it seems. If you read that story, you should be able to see where I am coming from.



As a rational person who believes in many things, will you at least TRY looking into this? I am not being mean, I have had you on my mind all day, and I am very seriously concerned about your health (mental and physical) at this point. Please listen to me and take me seriously.

I think it goes without saying that we are all concerned for her mental health.

Yes, very hard to believe, indeed.

I just noticed in your siggy that you had a photo album, and I got curious and checked it out. I just wanted to comment that your puppy is BEAUTIFUL!!!!
Are both the girls shown your daughters? One of the girls looked a bit too old to be your daughter (she didn't look OLD to me, she just looks a bit older than the other girl). Either way, they are both very pretty. Love that office pic, you look like you are ready to kill someone

I'm not, I was, but I wash my hands of it all.

I probably should do the same, but I am a worrier by nature. I can't really help it.

You have to know when to let go, and walk away.

"Amen".

Yeah really, I went to the link and all it brought up was Rosemary's online AOL diary, we need more sufficent information than just a written log of journals on the internet

All of the information you need is in Rosemarys posts. Reading through those makes everything rather clear.

The good thing is that when I logged on to the link you put there I see his name is in so many places and that is what I hoped to accomplish.
Anyone in the World who asks about Dr. Stergio Nicholas Petas of Toledo, Ohio will be directed to that Link and to my Journal where they can read all about him over and over again, every little detail about him.
And while he sits here inside my body day and night causing me pain he reads that and knows that I did just what I promised I put him out all over the Inernet and told this story over and over untikl people get sick of it perhaps but then again perhaps they will never forget the name Dr. Stergio Nicholas Petas of Toledo, Ohio and he will get his wish he will never be dead to the world because I intend to keep him alive forever and he will never be free of me or what I write about him until he takes my three relatives and leaves this area and never returns unless I give him permission to or until he gets on his Knees and repents to me and asks for my forgiveness for what he has done to me.
And that goes for Carrie, Eve, and George.
And if they don't do that when they leave this body even if its after I die the Guide who threatened them is waiting for them outside my body and maybe I will not be on the keyboard to write about what happens to them but I can speak through my Relatives who are going to be willed all my Psychic Research who know this Story and they will continue it down through the ages.
"To Eternity and Beyond"
That was to be the Title of the Book the Guides hoped to write when this all started until these four decided to devote full time to Destroying our plans.
Now Dr. P. is going to pay because when you get a woman riled up you never can tell what she will do to the Man who does this to her.
Vengance is Sweet so thanks for directing me to the page that shows all the times I entered the name Dr. Stergio Nicholas Petas from Toledo, and Sylvania Ohio a Suburb of Toledo where he and his family lived and where he had his medical Practice.
Perhaps now some of his Deceased Old Girlfriends will now come down here from Heaven and Retrieve this sucker and take him up higher with them.
While once I thought he was handsome and irrestible after what he has done to me that is no longer true.

Dr. Stergio Nicholas Petas of Toledo, Ohio - You are a fraud, a boor, a bully and an ignorant, stubborn bastard. Begone!

Thank you very much for your support, because all of this is true as God is my Witness.

I'm hoping a Major News Agency and or Hollywood Film crew will read about Dr. Petas in my Posts and make him World famous in a film like Emily Rose and if that should happen they can feel free to interview his friends, family members, patients and ask them, personal things about him and I think they will learn as I did behind that handsome, flirty veneer there is a very Evil Man whom I now compare to Frankenstein or Jekyl and Hyde.

What? That she has a possible psychotic disorder? Normally I would look into reading the posted comments but Rosemary writes too much in one post, and everytime I read them she offers information over and over again until I'm absolutly lost and confused



This is an example of why most of Rosemary's posts haven't made any clear sense






Yes, and I totally agree, Rosemary, if you are so into the spiritual sense and you obvisouly claim to know almost everything there is to know, you would also have the idea that demons are tricky, and yes demons can monitor your thoughts and opinions, or past experiences very easily.

Carrie is right, the human spirit of someone deceased into afterlife cannot possess the body of a living and breathing person, if it were possible the spirits would be invincible to the power of holy sacraments and that of the roman ritual of exorcism, I don't get this, Rosemary, you want to cast out ghosts using a form of exorcism but how can that be done when exorcisms are meant to drive out evil spirits and demons? How is that going to be effective in resolving your problems? Or look at it this way, how can a simple ghost be affected by a religious exorcism intended to drive out demons? Aren't demons and ghosts different? If so, how in the hell are you going to get rid of these spirits by consulting a religious clergy to drive out human spirits when they are using an ancient method for the demonic?

Another great point of Carrie's is that she states that consulting a friend of the ghost or a medium for that matter may only worsen the situation, you have been so testified to your own methods that it has ignored the problems and helpful suggestions that have been given to you, so please, think outside of the box, and consider other possibilities, seek help in other professional areas to see if you may have other problems that require medical treatment, you can't go assuming first off that your possessed by spirits, you have to look for other explantations first, it sounds like you haven't done that at all, and I'd suggest it, until then, your claim of "it's not mental, what I say is the absolute truth and I truly am possessed by the dead" will not be considered valid to many of those that probably believe in spiritual possession, I am believer in this department, but I honestly have to say I can't trust what you've said until you seek help in other aspects first, and then come to a conclusive statement if you truly are possessed, or if you are simply mentally ill.



I couldn't agree more with what she has said, honest to god truth it will get you no where by contacting or communicating with spirits in any way, it leads nowhere, and they aren't what you think, that's the truth as well, if these are spirits they have confused you in SO many areas, that's no lie.

To close, I wanted to point out the statement Carrie had made about mentally ill people not recognizing their problems, and it's 100% accurate in my mind, they aren't aware of it until the doctor shows them otherwise, just please listen, a mental illness is a temporary stage if treated medically, same thing with possession and religious treatment, here's the thing that makes everyone question your statements:

From what I know, you haven't taken any medications, you have viewed this to be spiritually from the start, but yet, you have had problems for the past 20 years now, and since then or in the span of time have you ever gone to see a doctor or psychiatrist if these problems were mental?

And the same thing applies for the other aspect in general, if a person is possessed they won't go first off claiming they are possessed by spirits, and although they may have thoughts about it, they will seek medical help to see perhaps if it is possible that a chemcial imbalance has occured, with that said, I have nothing more to state in this post.

Is this what motivates you? To be a part of that movie?

What? How are people going to make material for a film off of this anyway? And another thing, the movie on Emily Rose was made because the actual person's problems could not all be explained medically, which leaves many questions to think if there was spiritual activity. If they made a movie about Dr. Petas or your possession, the audience would consider it a fact to be a mental illness in your case.

Do not forget that she claims to have been visited by Albery Eisntein, Jesus, John F. Kennedy, and Pat Nixon, not to mention a host of cranky family members who loath punctuation.

It's a guaranteed hit.

Fluffy stuff! (I know it's flullybunny, but I use fluffystuff as an exclamation) You're beginning to sound as tired of all this as I already am, I thought you were supposed to be objective and impartial?

Believe it or not I get to have an opinion too.

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I wonder who would be the cast for such a riveting story, I mean, you got admit, it's a great plot for a script

Wow, that was quick and creative. Good job.

Hey, wait can I say, a couple of your posts and remarks have made me have a chuckle or two, I try to compete with the sense of sarcasm

You kill me, and your twisted sense of humor reminds me of.....me!

I think FluffyBunny's comments are just expressions of his views, and me personally I don't see anything wrong with what he's said, I mean, I just don't see how some people can even think of being serious when it comes to what Rosemary and others have said, by this I mean no offence, but what I'm saying is that if someone is going to ignore someone else's perspective or professional opinions and suggestions it's not worth taking seriously until the meantime

Folks, folks, please maintain at least the possibility that Rosemary's mental health and her psychic gift are two separate issues. Psychic awareness can be a real strain on a person's mind and this culture can be extremely punishing to people with strange experiences (just look at the crass, cruel and dismissive language used continually in this thread). So you're fed up with Rosemary, fine--how's about you stop reading her dang thread then?

And I gotta say: There is a big difference between being visited by Jesus and thinking that you yourself are Jesus. Being visited by famous dead people is no proof of insanity. All kinds of Christian mystics say they've been visited by the Christ; it's practically a given--what other kind of Christian mystical experience is there, fer crying out loud? If the Christ is the Christ of course he visits psychic people. And Einstein and JFK were both pretty humanitarian guys, if they could make contact from beyond the grave, don't you think they would do so if they thought they might do some good? Some dead people are famous. If you credit the possibility that the living talk to the dead, then the idea that famous dead people might contact a medium is simply one of the permutations. If you don't believe in mediumship, then the fact that someone claims to have contacted JFK's ghost shouldn't make them more crazy than you already think they are.

HK you are correct in that any one of these things are not an indication of anything unhealthy. Only after reading through the entirety of her posts (And the claims that go along with them), does the scope of the issue become apparent in my opinion.

I have made many posts in the past regarding my opinion, so I won't beat a dead horse, but I did want to make a serious reply to you and explain that in this case, I would be willing to bet my lifes savings that my opinion is dead on.

If you haven't had the chance to see what I am basing my opinion on, take a little time to paruse her posts and see what I mean.