Under most circumstances I am at odds with anyone of authority, but in this case I must completely and totally agree with The Fluffy one.

Yeah, but there's a difference between being dellusional in the concept and being visited by the real thing, Jesus doesn't come out of nowhere in the middle of 3 AM (by the way, that's the hour in which demonic forces mock the holy trinity in Catholic theology) and appear at the foot of your bed, there is a difference, and usually someone that comes across such a perception clearly comes from the mind and mental thinking, Jesus wouldn't appear to someone in physical form, he has left this earth and so has his body, he comes to us in the spirit, not through the body.

So you know Jesus now, Boltwave?

No I have never sought fame or notority but these four have forced me to try to Publicize them into leaving my body.
When Dr. P. walked the Earth he was a very private person and protected the privacy of his family but when he and his three helpers entered my body and did these terrible things to me to try to discredit me as a Psychic he gave up that privacy that he so treasured on Earth and now I am willing to go to any length privately or publicly to free myself of him and his so called obsessive love hate? attachment that he has for me.
If a Public Hanging (Exorcism) putting him out in book form or in a Movie like the exorcist or Emily Rose and force him to leave my body in some way or whatever happens during these Exorcisms then he is going to face these things unless he gives up on me and leaves my area never to return.
Not only that many people believe that Emily Rose and others were scams and just movies but I know they were for real and Emily Rose died because Ignorant priests starved her to death and again ignorance is rampant on this Forum as you talk back and fourth about mental illness and things that those other poor possessed people had to deal with.
And for those who keep saying its impossible for a Spirit to possess a Human Body just proves that you have no idea what you are talking about.
Now I said Jesus appeared to me and I believe him to be Jesus but I can't prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is Jesus but I know the man who came here as Jesus was a kind, good man and so was the one who appeared as a white haired man and said he was God is a good kind man who has given me much good important Information from the Soul Records in the Spirit world but so far they have not been able to talk or force these four out of my body but its still yet to be proven what could possibly happen to these four in the way of Punishment when they do leave my body.
These Guides tell me its impossible to destroy these Spirits while they are sitting inside my body because of the danger to me and so for now I cannot prove this one way or the other but if you believe for a second that these are not who I say they are or you believe that a Human Spirit cannot enter the body of the living you are sadly mistaken and I am hoping you yourself never have to face this problem because you can see how readily people are to say mental illness.
These four are former Humans but they are also what is labeled Fallen Angels and or Demons, and or Evil Spirits.
Take my word for it.

Can you handle a little bit of criticism, or will it cause your entities to throw you into a coma or something that dramatic?

You know what, nevermind, cuz I really don't need to go there.

No, but neither does Rosemary

Fluffy, I have read most of this stuff. My basic assessment is that Rosemary is far too close to the problem to be a very reliable witness. From where I sit, none of us can really say what is going on, what the problem is or what the heck to do about it. The one thing all of us agree upon is that Rosemary needs help.

One of the troubles we run into with psychic impressions is that they can be embellished. People can get carried away. Furthermore, if you've had any serious training in psychic awareness you've prolly come upon the injunction never to censor, but report exactly what you receive. This is a crucial discipline if you want to improve your gift, it can really open channels that you didn't know you had any access to, but it is not necessarily always accurate, particularly as you're learning. The thing is, in the normal course of events, the accuracy of every impression you ever get as a psychic is not really an issue--and making it one is the fast track to drying up and getting nothing.

I always tell the folks I read that they are the final arbiter of the truth of what I tell them. It is axiomatic that I can only tell them what they, deep down, already know; their own intuition must always be their guide. Any responsible psychic will tell you something of the kind. Any psychic that doesn't is surely trying to manipulate you.

And since you don't know Jesus like you said, how then do you know if he doesn't show himself to people at 3:00 in the morning? How would you really know him, aside from scriptures? You cannot assume what you don't understand.

Hey Bolt can assume whatever Bolt wants (didn't check the profile to see if it was he or she sorry) assumption may be the mother of all (expletive deleted) ups, but I suppose that you know jesus well enought o know that he does come to the foot of your bed at O'dark-thirty? All I am saying is that no-one can be 100% sure of the nature of divinity, so why argue about it, isn't there something more productive to argue about?

Boltwave, please, to my knowledge you have no personal experience with any of this. You literally do not know what you are talking about. I don't mean to sound harsh, but you weigh in like an authority, when you're just a bystander. Theology is only as accurate as your real personal experience shows you. I've had some years of experience with demons and hauntings and I've performed exorcisms (non-Christian) and the Catholic view of things has shown itself to be accurate in some details and far off the mark in others. Until Jesus appears to you, you have no way of knowing how He'll manifest. One thing though, to a clairvoyant, spirits can definitely appear in physical form.

Perhaps Rosemary is wrong about who visited her; but that doesn't make her crazy, it makes her mistaken.

Hmmm, you quoted me so I'll assume you are talking to me.
To begin with, I never mentioned HK...wtf. Another thing, I don't make assumptions or claim to know Christ.

We can argue politics, and other things, but in the end, arguing (which I'm not doing to begin with-I'm having a discussion with Boltwave) is not going to get you anywhere. Getting up and taking action has a better chance of getting things done.
edit: I see that you edited it to Bolt instead of HK. Another thing, Bolt is male

Right, okay, let's say that Jesus came to Rosemary that night with a plastic crown on his head and a cheeseburger in a doggy bag like the Burger King and she happily accepted so everyone is happy

Is that supposed to be funny or something?

I have not had personal experiences, that is true, but I've spoke one on one with people that have (I will not specify, it's confidential) and most of the stuff I've heard has convinced me enough, and you have performed exorcisms? Jesus has said so in the Bible, if it weren't true it wouldn't relate to allot of the stuff that happens in society, you should look into the story of Legion, if you have already then you know what I'm talking about.

Also, my sister works in a insane asylum, she has a million stories about kids claiming to be the devil, a couple of them have torn through restraints and straight jackets, they've even broken through secure glass containment areas of the hospital where they had been locked up in, if that's not possession I don't know what is.

The fact is, I may not have my personal experiences, but without a doubt I can take from what people have said into consideration

Not really, more of a sarcastic remark, yours truly from FluffyBunny (you got to hand it to him)

Good that it's sarcasm, otherwise the crickets would really be chirping.

Have you ever considered that since they are in an asylum that they might be mentally unstable? Just a thought.

Perhaps Rosemary just wants attention any way she can get it? Perhaps This is all an elaborate hoax? Perhaps, by getting normally sensible people to argue about it, thereby arguing about her, she's getting just what she wants? Perhaps what's she's saying is real? Perhaps she is absolutely insane? Perhaps she's sincere? Perhaps she's working on debunking the theory of possession by spinning a yarn so completely unbelieveable that no-one will ever believe in it again? Perhaps it's none of these? But I can say for certain the one thing she does not want is help. With all of the posts, with all of the advice, with all of the well intended and possibly misplaced concern shown, one thing always comes from her. She always has an excuse why this will not help, or this will not work, or why she cannot do this or that, why this spirit or that one "will not let her". I'm tired of reading her posts and being in disbelief, or frustrated or seeing everyone else fight about it. I would suggest that no-one reply to her posts anymore, just read them for what they're worth and be done with it. No-one will do that, but it'd make everything a lot simpler!

Perhaps I'm wrong here? Perhaps I'm right?

Perhaps we're all wrong and Rosemary's right?

Perhaps Rosemary's wrong and we're all right?

Perhaps?

And before you say it, don't worry I won't read her posts anymore either.

Totally fine, it's not like you read mine either.

I do read yours, I simply find you unpalatable!

No, you can't respond to me or read my posts properly. You mentioned HK in there when I wasn't discussing HK.

I'm human I make mistakes, I don't expect you to forgive me, to err is human, to forgive devine......and I don't believe anyone on this ball of mud we call a planet is divine.

(Does cheap, cheesy Richard Nixon impression)

And for the record I went back and changed it.

(end of impression)

That's a pretty pessimistic outlook to think that no one can forgive you.
But anyway, if you made a mistake, that's fine, ignoring it altogether and saying that you won't read people's posts, etc...not so much. You'll give people the wrong impression if you leave it hanging.

I could make a crude comment about hanging.........It'd be funny..........But I'll not do it.

Honestly If I cared what people think of me, would I really spend most of my night on here preaching about ghosts and demons? I should think not! I must say I passed the age of caring of what others think and became comfortable with who I am a few years ago.

Do it! It would be funny

Then you won't care that I find you unpalatable as well.
Have a lovely rest of the day.

You have a great day too.

I sincerely appreciate honesty.

For Rosemary,

As much as you'd like to believe your being possessed, you may not be. There's many mental trauma that may lead to you thinking that your possessed. Here's an article about spiritual possession that may help you out a bit.
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In 1994 a curious case-report was published in the British Journal of Psychiatry. It described a man who believed he was possessed by a spirit and was successfully treated by medication. Unusually however, the article mentioned that other people had seen the ghost.

Belief in possession is not uncommon in psychosis, the mental state that can sometimes accompany severe mental illness and typically involves delusions and hallucinations.

Psychiatry usually assumes all such experiences to be tricks of the mind, rather than the result of other-worldly powers.

The case-report by Anthony Hale and Narsimha Pinninti (summary) is almost unique however, in that it suggests that the authors are unsure whether the possession was mental illness or spiritual intervention.

As well as making for a gripping read, it reveals some of the assumptions and difficulties of contemporary psychiatry.

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Hale and Pinninti entitled their article Exorcism-resistant ghost possession treated with Clopenthixol. It discusses the case of a 22-year old Hindu male who believed he had been possessed by the ghost of an old woman. The ghost reportedly forced him to do 'wicked things', including theft of a car, for which he was remanded in prison.

The patient experienced his body being taken over by her spirit and also heard the voice of the ghost commenting on his actions and commanding him to act. These are classic first rank symptoms, first listed by psychiatrist Kurt Schneider as being particularly distinctive of schizophrenia.

So this might be an otherwise unremarkable psychiatric case if it were not for the fact that the prison chaplain, and several of the patient's cellmates, saw the spirit possess the patient as a ghostly mist. The chaplain was convinced this was a genuine case of possession, as had priests from several other faiths who had previously carried out exorcisms on the patient.

This begs the question, if the patient was treated for his belief in spirit possession and his apparent hallucinations as to the reality of the ghost, why were the chaplain and the others not considered to be ill ?

This article highlights the uncomfortable relationship between beliefs in the paranormal and the assumptions of psychiatry. The results of a recent gallup poll suggested that over 40% of Americans believe in possession by the devil and 15% believe spirits can 'temporarily assume control of a human body'.

Although psychiatrists would argue that the content of a belief is not enough in itself to diagnose a delusion, the criteria for distinguishing between 'healthy' and 'pathological' beliefs are notoriously incoherent.

Psychiatrists might be forgiven for sticking to their guns, especially in Hale and Pinninti's case, where the possession seemed to disappear when psychiatric medication was used. It is all the more surprising then, that the authors consider they may have had a genuine case of possession on their hands.

The article made little impact in the world of psychiatry, although it did generate a little discussion in the Lancet. One notable comment was from UK-based Indian psychiatrist Sushrut Jadhav who remarked on the relationship between the uneasy bedfellows of science and folk-belief:

By juxtaposing ghost possession and exorcism-resistance with clopenthixol, and by equating folk explanations with superstition, one comes face to face with questions that lie at the heart of culturally sensitive psychiatry and public health. Can exorcism and ghost possession be incorporated into the same paradigm of illness that clopenthixol claims to treat ?

The question remains as yet unanswered.

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You may also wanna check out some books on it.... Scratch that, alot of books on it.

Rosemary, I've thought of another option for you that I don't think has been mentioned yet. Have you thought about making an appointment with a University Parapsychology Department? They will keep an open mind to what you tell them, and I think you'll be likely to gain some insights from them.

Bebi,

I recently read that UCLA discontinued its degree program in parapsychology. Hopefully there are other universities/colleges with more ethical goals in mind of helping people and spirits alike, rather than expecting to one day offer proof to the world for a shot at the Nobel Prize.

What Rosemary needs is to focus on positive emotions and ultimately, love of self. The premonitions she receives, and I haven't read enough to know to what extent they're legitimate, have become such a fascination over the last 20 years that she's gradually grown out of touch with her own happiness in favor of the happiness of others. I've been privy to predictions, minor ones, and they're a novelty but nothing more.

Rosemary,

My best advice is to ignore even the most significant of premonitions, even if that means preventing World War III. Accept the potential tragedies and unsolved crimes as learning experiences for mankind, not evil, and move on with your own life. Don't tell the guide who you're perceiving to depart, because that will only strengthen your ideas of his power over you. Turn a deaf ear to his agenda. A professor doesn't lecture to a classroom full of snoring students.

Some are able to cope with these experiences, but history illustrates that it's drained love and joy from your life.

Best wishes,
Brian

That was my point, did you ever come to think that some of the demonically possessed are in fact hospitilized because of their symtpons which may concern and bring up the term "mental illness"

Now I believe mental illness exists, but when someone has a magnitude that can't be treated medically, it is very possible they are possessed, and religious leaders don't even take that into consideration and dismiss it as spiritual entities, along with that the person interacts with their enviroment as the Bible has portrayed demons such as the book of Mark:

Mark 5:7:5 (Verse 2)

"When Jesus got out of the boat a man with an evil spirit came from the tombs to meet him. This man lived in the tombs, and no one could bind him anymore, not even with a chain. For he had often been chained hand and foot, but he tore the chains apart and broke the irons on his feet. No one was strong enough to subdue him, Night and day among the tombs he would cry out and cut himself with stones"

So, is spiritual possession even recognized in society? Far from it actually,and most people will overlook the symptons and occurances as a mental illness which can be treated medically.

Oh my god, you cannot be serious

Ignorant priests huh? Rosemary, can you or have you done better in your position as a psychic, if they are so ignorant and close minded, but yet you know more about them when it comes to these things, how come you are seeking their help, or better yet, the question of the matter is have you done any better to resolve these problems?

Allot of people are right about what you've said, it's all about seeking the help of a higher authority to cast out ghosts but then anyone else's recommendations and words of advice mean nothing, so how is the intention of a priest ignorant when you ignore anyone's helpful suggestions?

Rosemary, Annielse was not neglicted by the church and the priests did not kill her as a result of her death, besides, what would you do in their position? Anything different that may have helped, if so, I would take your word of advice, but so far you seem to reject other forms of advice that aren't coming from the world of a "psyhcic"

No offence intended in this post, this is just a clear cut explanation, or my own assumption and questioning to reason why someone like you would think these things, and if you think the descisions of the priest where in a way neglectful, or purposely driving her to the point which had caused death, you must not believe in the devil.

An expert on spirits? Well,I don't think you believe in Satan at all for that matter, this will be the last time I say this, but please go back and read my previous posts, I'm looking for answers to these questions to better understand your perspective.

That is all

My older daughter,13, is from my wife's first marriage. Thanks for the positive comments. My dogs name is chunky monkey.lol He is a big baby.

I am not insane, I am not scamming anyone and when I came on here to tell my Story I didn't expect anyone to actually physically Exorcise me.
I just thought I would tell my Story so those who care knows that these things can happen and cases like Emily Rose and others are not scams as many believe.
I didn't see the Movie but I know possessions are for real and I don't know how anyone reading this post could actually help unless of course they could pony up an Exorcist Priest to perform such an Exorcism.
I did also think I should share my experiences with those who are just beginning to dabble in these things and know that indeed you can become possessed if you have an enemy in the Spirit World who has died because as far as I can tell there is no one in the Universe who has control of these four Spirits or any spirit for that matter except themselves.
Now as I see it everyone on here has their own interpretation of the Bible and or whatever Religious affilliation they follow and I also know that no matter what you believe one day you will die and go to the Spirit World and where Heaven is I don't know and where Hell is I don't know all I know is there is an After Life and everyone goes there when they pass over and I believe if you are a decent Spirit and if you were a Decent Person on Earth you are not going to crawl into a humans smelly body and sit there for 20 years but it can happen and does happen.
For all I know many of you could be possessed and not even know that a Spirit is riding around in your body unless they tell you.
Some of the things they do is compulsive shopping, running your life, changing your mind all the time and put gross ideas into your mind and if they don't let you know they are doing it you may just think its you.
And to suggest that someone take such a Story to a Psychiatrist who doesn't believe in these things would be like telling some of you this Story and from the Doctor you would no doubt get the same reaction.
I know what is true and I just thought others should know what can happen if you meet a Spirit who doesn't take a liking to you and they choose to have a little run on the ouija board or off because as I hear it the Spirit World can be quite boring and most of the things we believe according to the Spirits I have talked to is a bunch of bunk thought up by a bunch of individuals who want to make money off a bunch of people who want them to paint a rosey picture.

Actually it does. It sounds like she is having audio and visual hallucinations. Since there has never been actual documentation of a true medium we must assume the logical. When my mother talks to voices that are other people or spirtis, I know that is her schizophrenia.

Wait a minute, I've heard this before, in fact, on another forum I was accused of being possessed by a number of demons that where virtually harmless unless provoked, but yet I have nothing wrong with my health or anything of the matter that would prove otherwise that I was possessed, I mean, if I was, my anger would be more threatening and hostile and probably would scare the crap out of allot of people, but yet it doesn't, so how am I possessed?

I didn't mean all Priests are Ignorant, I only meant that I believe this particular Girl died because of the actions of many.
And even after she died many don't believe she was actually possessed.
I used to think that all priests were perfect but with the kinds of things the Church has covered up with the child molestation and payoffs tht went all the way to the Vatican well you can see why I and many have become very dillisioned with some of them.
As one example we have a Priest on trial here in my Town who murdered one of the Highest Ranking Nuns in our town and he not only murdered her and left her in a sexually explit fashion on the Alter of a local Hospital Chapel.
He got away with that Murder for 24 years and had a great life during those years getting promoted in the church and all that and most recently he has had the charged reduced and the Murdered Nun keeps appearing to me from the Spirit World upset that he has gotten away with her murder all these years and she tells me one of the reasons she was murdered is because she was going to blow the whistle on the priest and some of his friends for engaging in Sexual things.
and our local paper has also published stories along those lines.
This has nothing to do with the things I have been writing except that you jumped on what I said about the Priest and gave the indication that you think all priests are as clean as the driven snow.
The fact is many Priests are sick and tired of many of the things that goes on in the Catholic Church and many of them jump the fence and try to live a Private Life and it gets them into great trouble.
I think one of the reasons also is they no longer believe in all the Religious Dogma that they have been taught all down through the years.
But I am not against Catholics at all I am just saying they are normal people.
But you're right if I could find a Priest who does Exorcisms I would love to see if one could actually drive these things out of my body.

Actually yes that's true, I agree with that

But then again not all priests are bad either, yes, some of them have committed acts that are unexcusebale and they know this to be true, but others actually have faith and know what they are doing.

All I'm saying is that even though the girl suffered a tragic death it was not because the priests neglected her needs, and by saying that you have made it clear that the priest was ignoring the psychological aspects not the fact that your opinion she was possessed by ghosts.

A priest that commits an act that is innapropriate or vile and sickening will be judged according to the laws they have accepted, anyone with a college degree can become a priest, all they need to do is "fake it"

But some priests have actually accepted the holy spirit and thus are doing his work, and the priests that exorcised Michel were in fact not neglecting the issues, but helping to resolve them, and even then, not every exorcism will be successful, it may take up to months if you will, possibly even years.

And again, we cannot cast out evil spirits with our own authority, we are human and succeptable to the devil's attacks, no one is fully protected unless they know how to rebuke the devil's evil and they understand the seriousness of it, and overlook the minor issues that don't concern Satan at all.

Right.
I know there are many good Priests, Nuns and Preachers and they work very hard and I know that the folly of some reflects badly at times on those trying to do their best.

Boltwave,

As you read, please keep in mind that this isn't about you and me; it's about Rosemary. HK is right on the money in telling you that you are not an authority on matters of sprirituality. I've also expressed this opinion in the past when you misguided the filmmakers on matters of the Ouija board.

Do you believe that there's a lack of availability to bibles, and that people here in this forum are incapable of opening one and reading the passages that you quote? Is your opinion of them that low? If you want to cite scripture all day long to those who prefer second hand quotes with the potential for errors as opposed to them reading what they already have at home, then please find your comfort in a Christian-based website. You're not helping anyone who is struggling with possession phenomena.

Every time you come here, quoting scripture, you reinforce the notion that these possessions cannot be resolved by the victim alone. I haven't read of HK's successful exorcisms, but I imagine that they were achieved by addressing the victim directly and his/her depressive state, and not the offending entity or entities. Catholic priests are not the solution to rid one of possessing spirits; through the fear that they preach and the oppressive nature inherent of the faith in a messiah, they are a detriment, not a benefit.

I spent 18 months preventing possession from spirits who battered, molested, and raped me, and this was without any external spiritual guidance from priests or otherwise. The battle ended, and I wasn't visited by anyone who cast them away. The spirits lingered benignly for 4 additional years, I saw them nightly, and now they're gone. Read my "Rationalization for Recent Events" post if you'd like to learn why I believe this to be so.

You're better off to read if you're going to remain here, but write for the sake of asking questions to better understand what you find. Don't pretend to be an authority because you became literate and read a popular book. As always, I respect you as much as anyone else in this world, and any perception of harshness in my tone is out of compassion for others who you may be harming without conscious awareness.

Eighteen months. Huh. Thats alot of imagination. You shouldn't pretend to be an authority either. To me there is not much difference between you and Rosemary.

Ericraven,

As ever, I remain sympathetic to what occurred with your mother, and your resulting pain. However, if it is your goal to transfer the hatred of your situation toward Rosemary, which appears to be the case, my suggestion is to show more compassion and sympathy toward one who has struggled for nearly a quarter century.

Do a bit of research on the woman who inspired the series, "Medium", on NBC. Then, if you can refute her life's work credibly, I will be more apt to put stock in your opinions regarding my imagination.

Frankblunt,

I thought your work in this forum was finished, and you were never too return ?.

Yet more evidence that I am not perfect. I give inspiration more weight than my fleeting sense of completion.

Take care,
Brian

Once again. There has never been one scientifically documented medium. Sorry no sale.

Although what you just said has given me allot to think about, I don't neccesarly consider myself an authority, I just give insight to those that may agree, I'm here to learn from different people of all different backgrounds, take Azalin for example, I'm here to educate myself and possibly do for others the same, whether I agree with someone or not, at least I'm learning other views and keeping an open opinion to other possibilities perhaps even a greater more extensive knowledge to what I know about today.



Exactly my point, I believe that allot of this is psychotic thinking and until the medical aspect has been reached and proven wrong in this situation, will I choose to believe this

You are wrong and I will continue to say that.
There are mediums and there are great mediums and once I solve this problem here and I get back to the kind of Psychic Channelling I used to do I will once again be great.
That is one of the Reasons my Relatives and Dr. P. have tried to discredit me and stop me.
I am happy to report I received a Phone Call earlier from a Paranormal Investigator who is also a Demonologist and he said it will not cost me anything because he is part of a Group and he said he will get back to me this week and we will get together and he will put some equipment in my home and bring several Psychics with him to communicate with these Spirits and we will try to talk them out and he said if that doesn't work he has in the past forced Spirits from a Possessed Persons Body.
I am encouraged by this but since I have never been through anything like that I will have to wait until its over with to learn exactly what happens and write about it.
I wrote about no charge because some people on here think that everyone who works in these things are out for money.
Some of us just want to further research, and learn more as we go.
I actually believe telling my story on here and having people disbelieve me encouraged me to put more effort into finding someone to help me so thanks.
Once I get rid of these hampering spirits I intend to prove that I am a Psychic through Information that I gather to prove it.

I'm wrong about what? That I want to educate myself? Why else did I come to these forums, it's quite obvious, so what claim to you have on that to judge me?

To be honest, your logical thinking has really had me tied up in a knot here and I can't make anything out of it, it seems like you haven't gotten to know who is the higher authority in all of this, and we all know you don't listen to a thing anyone else says, but then you reply and say "thanks for the suggestions, I really appreciate it" how can you appreciate what we've told you if it never comes to your mind, and have you read my previous posts yet? I'm not going to reply unless you can answer my questions with great purpose to back them up, otherwise, I am sorry for getting involved here.

Ericraven,

Have you noticed what you've been doing on this site? I advised you previously of the fact that you contribute nothing to the discussion with these one-liners of yours: "Insane...Insane...Insane...Insane... etc., etc."

What you're essentially doing is taking pleasure in publicly humiliating those who are suffering. You can say what you like about me, I don't care. I'm as concerned for you as I am for Rosemary. Perhaps more than her, because she's been coping for 20 years, doing her best to survive, and you're about to explode.

You claim that Rosemary is mentally ill, again and again. What do I think is at the root of this behavior? First of all, if all you chalked this up to be was nonsense ramblings of one suffering severe depression and/or schizophrenia, you wouldn't bother visiting this site at all. You're looking for something. Your mother knew something about you or others that she couldn't have known through rational means, or she predicted a future event that came true, no matter how minor. Your anger and fear point to a potentially larger issue of denial. If you felt at all sympathetic toward Rosemary and didn't see any credibility to the spiritual side of her struggle, you would never behave in this cruel manner toward her. It would be comparable to walking into an asylum and shouting "Lunatic!" to every patient you pass. They would all cry, but you'll notice that Rosemary is persevering, not crying. She's tolerant of you, and you need to respect her for that gift she has bestowed upon you.

The fact that you take this pleasure in others' misery has built you up to be precisely that type of entity you claim does not exist. You are a stereotypical example of a demon with the behavior you're exhibiting. You're suffering though as a result of unresolved issues in your past, and you're not inherently evil. No one is evil.

As with any malevolent spirit, perhaps Rosemary is experiencing a benefit from your rants. It keeps her convinced on some level that she needs to get well and pushes her to strive on. But, the least you could do is say something constructive if you're going to exploit pain in the attempt to help her. I know that she doesn't want you to be revoked from this website, and that is a sign of strength on her part, not mental illness. There's much she can teach you, but you're not listening because you see your mother every time you read her posts and the negative emotions impede your education.

At the very least, you have figurative demons of anger and fear. So think about this the next time you find it novel to criticize those who are dealing with genuine spirits.

Let one of us help you, or seek help through a therapist if you aren't already. I'll do my best to help you as I'm sure HK, Rosemary, and Azalin will. Tell us what evidence you may have found to give merit to a spiritual element in your mother's condition, or tell a therapist privately. I'll listen, and I'm here to help as many others are.

Azalin and I have strong disagreements on matters of organized religion and, more specifically, exorcism, but his years of education and experience have likely led to extreme giftedness in the area of family therapy. At the very least, he or someone could make a referral for you, because you're not in a sound mental state at this time.

FrankBlunt,

There are many things that are wrong with your theory, one,Rosemary has had these problems for several years now, and if I'm not mistaken, she hasn't seen a doctor since then and continues to reject medical advice, now do I believe in possession? Of course, but even medical doctors know what they are talking about when they see it, does this mean they will always be correct? No, they are human.

I oblidge everyone to go through and read my posts that I've written earlier, I don't want to have to repeat myself and waste my time posting so some people will finally get my point after the 15,000th time of repeating it

Another thing, Rosemary has jumped into this whole situation and calls it possession at first start, I have to say, it's the same thing as a doctor who says your crazy when in fact you are possessed by spirits, I think if your going to get your facts straight you might want to confront a medical psychologist with a religious perspective, they know the medical fields as well as other devoted beliefs concerning possession and exorcism.

Ericraven has every right to say what he thinks, although I may agree he has some emotional problems he needs to work out, I can see why it would be very stressful telling a person that there is more than one explanation when the only response they give you is: "there is only one for sure genuine explanation, I'm sticking to it, and my opinion is accurate no matter what you say against it."

I don't understand why some people would buy this, it sounds all psychotic to me and needs to be treated with medication, I mean, even a person possessed always illminates the other possibilites, the other reasonings and causes for their problems, before EVER considering it supernatural or for what it is.

Are people getting a little two serious on this issue with Rosemary? A little, including myself, but you have to admit, it's frustrating when you take a ride on a rollar coster that never ends gets pretty tiring, especially when it may tend to go backwards and fowards and stop here and there, it would drive anyone nuts!

This has nothing to do with faith or believing in spirits and possession, it has to do with Rosemary's denial, and her consistent thought pattern that her way is the only way and her truth is the only truth.

I believe in the paranormal, but not in this case, there is no question that it is full blown psychosis, and until she sees a doctor are we going to know these things for sure, but I'm willing to bet money on it that if priests turned her down so will these paranormal investigators, and if they perform an exorcism, regardless of any photography, it will end in weeping and crying, pain and sorrow.

Again, for the love of god, answer my previous statements and then let's move on shall we?