That's just YOUR opinion, ED. GTFO!


Its the demons causing all this strife. Actually, it appears to be different people's concepts of demons (or non-existance of them).


The bottom line is: what works to get rid of these things, what doesn't? What should be checked for an eliminated first?


I'd like to know who these famous investigators and demonologists are that pop up and get referenced from time to time.

We need our share of stand-up comics on the team, too. Good grounding humor, EDW. I...love...it.

No! What I said was applied to you!

No, and I tell you that is not what we are discussing, I'm referring too what applys to our comments, not what we apply to others

Perhaps she was possessed and hearing voices and didn't know what was happening to her or couldn't get anyone to help her and now you are feeling guilty?

I am telling my Story so that people like her who are actually possessed and hearing voices can get someone to help them.

I know its not easy for those who don't have the Gift of Psychic to deal with these things and its not easy to get their nonbelieving relatives to learn and believe and try to help through an Exorcism or something and once the relatives they labeled crazy whom they didn't help begins to cause them to have guilty feelings what can they do but lash out at someone like me who is telling them these things when its too late for them to remedy the things they have done to cause their relative pain.

The only thing I can suggest that you do now to tell your mother how sorry you are is for you to sit down in a private room and write a letter to her which she can read from the Spirit World, then let go of the anger and Guilt feelings because its too late for you to apologize to her in the Flesh but she is watching over you from the Spirit World and its never to late to say I'm sorry for the way I treated you.

I am very serious and you don't have to tell anyone you did the things I suggested but I know it will help you to feel better and I know it will make your mother feel a lot better to know you are learning and are going to be more open minded to these things in the future, because you seem to have inherited your mothers gift to explore the Psychic World.

Sometimes older people like this who have these problems have a difficult time communicating what they are trying to say.

If your grandfather has passed over she could be trying to tell you that he visits her in Spirit?

I have dealt with an older woman much like you describe your grandmother to be and it does get frustrating at times when each of you are trying to communicate with the other but you must be patient and take breaks from it and get your thoughts together.

In my case I would at the most difficult times talk her into getting the family album out and look at old family pictures with her and reminiscent and ask questions and I could see her face light up and I woud do this quite often.

You will see this can be helpful.

Hello, Rosemary,

How's your progress with the interference in decision making? Do your best, and please keep everybody posted on the results.

I was also thinking of what you said about being watched in the bathroom. That's a fact of life for anyone who acknowledges the existence of spirits and realizes their ability to fly and hover at will. The woman who left her body to visit me in spirit so many times back in the first part of this century saw me naked in my hotel room once without intent. She felt guilty, but I testified to my, "All naked, all the time", policy during hotel stays, and she felt better.

That's more information than most of you would wish to have. Don't worry, I spare the maid and concierge the indignity. And I get plenty of compliments on my Superman boxer shorts.

really thought this was about your comments about Rosemary which applies to another person.

My comments are for the public, as well as Rosemary's comments

Thank you Rosemary but she is showing signs of dementia due to possible strokes and she is not acting the like the same Grandmother I knew a few years ago. We really hate to see her going down this road and hurting all of us. She has felt my Grandfather and it goes deeper for her and right now prayers are about the only thing we can do. We tried pulling her close but she pushes harder away from us. She is not eating healthy and that also affects your mind but I do want to thank for your kinds words. I do appreciate them and thank you for being so kind and caring.

I wouldn't mind the watching if the four weren't also inside my body tearing viciously at my brain.

Today I went to buy a sunday paper as usual and visited two stores because someone wanted me to go to one to buy things then another wanted me to go to another store and buy the paper and use my debit card to get a little money to play the lottery next week because it seems he had some sort of gambling problem when he walked the Earth but I have him on a short leash now and only let him play the Mega twice a week.

He reminds me that this is not good because twice in the past he asked me to play the Lottery and I wouldn't play and it came in paying almost two hundred thousand once and on the next win it could have won 5000 dollars.

I said well I am sorry that I missed those two wins but he has to recall that he has had me playing a sure thing for 20 years and it only came in twice.

He said that may be true but one of them was pretty big when it did win.

Last week I saw a ticker tape with six numbers on it and its predicted to win at some point in the future but the thing is I am not sure how far into the future that win will be or how many dollars I will have to lose before the big win so for now I am not gamblin much until I get the four out of my body.

Recently as I work around the House I said well God as you can see no one believes much that I am a Psychic and I said do you think you could let me walk on water the way Jesus did and this summer I could go down to Lake Erie and perform for the tourists then I bet they would believe that I am communicating with the Spirit World.

He hasn't answered me on that.

Does not appear so to me at least.

This is where i come from
http://www.hooponopono.org/

and mrs campbell dont give up, dont open your self up to these attacks. I've had similar cases of this in myself, maybe not as Huge but still nontheless still scary, and in my experiences they aren't here to hurt me they are here to be released, cleansed, they want to go to heaven they dont want 2 be earthbound. They have come to me to be cleansed of the earth and finally be free. I think that These spirits have a big connection to you and it makes sense there your family, do you think that these spirits possibly want you to free them. i mean.... you are their family and its kind of up to you to do it* their dead they cant do it for themselfs*

i have a story that my http://www.hooponopono.org/ teacher told me

his daughter went to get a shot for school and so he had to wait, as he was waiting he saw a little child repeditivly fell to the ground, he saw hands grabbing the childs legs and he knew that the reason that the child was falling because the sprits wanted him to cleanse them. the chiled fell no more.

Thank You.

Rosemary,

Between the gambling and the spirit you mentioned in another thread who is providing you with recipes in the hopes of publishing a cookbook through you, all I'm seeing is greed, vanity, and pride.

When you receive recipes or other artistic expression via spiritual inspiration, take joy in that and share it, but don't dwell upon the agendas of the source. The poems and parody songs that I write usually pop into my head in an instant and are on paper and completed within 20 to 30 minutes.

I openly share them with friends and co-workers. That brings me a great deal of pleasure. I will not copyright them in the hopes of becoming rich, nor would I ever concern myself with a spirit's greed if I were privy to any such conversation. I choose not to listen to the voices. I shut them out, but I continue to receive inspiration by more subtle methods without losing my sense of self, and that's fine by me.

No problem

If i can help in any way just let me no

I believe you are right in saying this has happened to me for a reason.

In the beginning I did not understand these things and I knew very little of the Spirit World or what would happen over the next years as I communicated with them but now I believe these four Spirits three of them my Relatives have become Evil Spirits (perhaps as Teachers and Play Actors to force me to see the good and Evil in the World and in the Spirit World just as the Bible tells us.

I don't believe a Higher Power in the Universe asked them to do this but I do believe once they decided to challenge him and try to prove things that he just decided to let them write for a while to teach the World what the Spirit World is like and also to teach them that this can happen to a Human if a Spirit so Chooses.

I believe what has happened to me by relatives and Dr. P. in Spirit will eventually teach others that on rare occassions this can happen and that Possessions are real and that Exorcists are necessary to sometimes act as Mediators to try and work things out between angry Spirits and the Possessed Human on Earth.

The Spirits quite often say that some of this is to show Evil People on Earth that if they Kill or hurt someone and send them to the Spirit World that that Spirit can come back and seek vengance against the Perpetrator of the Crime.

Having said that I feel that its time that they stop teaching me this lesson so I will write about it to Educate the World about these things, and they should now consider their teaching over with and get out of my body and if they decide to straighten up their act and work in the right way after God gives them permission to then perhaps in the future they may return as my relatives and continue to write on Occassion, but in the meantime I have told them we will take a wait and see stand on that because there are others in the Universe who have much to say to Earth and I want to channel for them just as I have been doing over the past 20 years.

There are some on here who say I should send all Spirits away but I don't agree with that I am a Channel for Spirit and I want to do that until the day I die but I do want to get the four out of my body and try to straighten them out so they try to do better and if that is impossible then I want to prove one way or the other if there is a Force in the Spirit World who can bring them under control and force them to leave me alone just as a Law Enforcement Officer might do here on Earth.

That is all a part of my Quest for Truth and will go a long way to further Paranormal Research.

You say all you see is Greed, Vanity and Pride.
How can you say that?
I have been working with the Spirit World for more than 20 years now some good and some bad and in that time I have not only gathered the bad I have gathered good information much of it I sent freely for years to a Clearing House that the Spirits directed me to and I told them to use anything they wanted to for Research Purposes and much good has come from that.

The Spirit attacks have actually escalated due to my logging onto this forum and also things we wrote into the Skeptic Forum about many things and one of the reasons for that is the four Spirits are Jealous of some of the Information I got which I wrote about in various posts and they set out to make sure that I was not rested enough to gather more Information and this is why my efforts to remove them from my body escalated and this is why I decided to write about them hoping they would come out of my body if I exposed them on the various forums.

All the information I received on a daily basis over the past 20 years much of it for at least 15 years was sent to a Clearing House where some of it was used for Research Purposes.

The kinds of Information that I have collected in timed and dated pages which I have stored over the past 20-years is mind boggling in its importance to furthering Paranormal Research and I would be happy to get into those boxes and share some of the information as soon as I manage to release myself from the pain and suffering of the attack of these four jealous, vindictive Spirits who hope those pages of information never reach the World because they don't want me to get credit for channelling it from the Spirit World.

I think that's sufficient to answer that.

Ah but it is written that God gave Jesus the Power to walk on Water.
Now do you believe that Jesus really walked on Water?
or do you believe as time went on the Writers might have embellished on that?
or perhaps the writers who wrote those things were imagining things or perhaps they were insane or in need of medical help as many have said on this Forum.

See I also have no proof of any of these things anymore than anyone has any proof of the things I have written here which I have attributed to Spirits since I said that Jesus appeared to me on May 9, l986 and said I should channel for he and other Spirits to teach the World about the Reality of Life after Death by transmitting to the World the things they write through me.

Now where is what I am writing different from what the Scribes write who say they are channeling from Spirits in the Spirit World and of course they called it heaven.
Do people read the Bible and say:
" Those guys sure need to see a Psychiatrist."

I don't believe Jesus physically walked on water any more than I believe he turned water into wine; they're metaphors nothing more.

LightRain,

Please pitch the business elsewhere. I'm pretty sure it's against this site's code of conduct, anyway. I noticed the offering of the $350 class on the website. Classroom learning is fine up to a certain age but, as adults, we can obtain all the information we need for ourselves without teachers or spending hundreds of dollars.

Speaking with friends and trusted acquaintances, gaining a fresh perspective from those with markedly different backgrounds, is all that's necessary from time to time in one's pursuit of individual freedom. And, best of all, it's complimentary.

Many movies have been made to make it seem like fantsy. Do you compare yourself with movie stars who just act. Do you ever feel anger toward the spirits, yourself, or family and friends for no reason. My questions sound strange but, I just want to gather inormation. If you dont mind.

Actually, yes, people do say those things. Head on over the the Religion vs. Skepticism and you will see that. And no, I do not think everything in the Bible is literal. Look how many times it has been translated and with each translation, the translator translates to his agenda. To actually know the Bible, you'd have to read the original, unfortunately, I cannot read that language.

If you are speaking to me the answer is.
Do I compare myself with Movie Stars and the answer is no, I am just someone who speaks to and sees Spirits when they want me to.
Do I feel anger toward the Spirits, myself or family and friends for no reason?
Absolutely not.
Are you asking because you are having a problem and think it might be Spirit Related?

Thank you.

As for the Randi challenge If I could get these four Spirits out of my body and rest my brain and make sure that they haven't damanged my ability to do so I would try the Randi Challenge just to see if I could do it.

If I could do it and I actually was paid the money I would use it to further my work in the things I am writing about.

And I would also use some of it to do good things for others.

However I can't do those things now because since I have been writing on these forums telling this Story these four Spirits have become so abusive that I can't do this work much at all anymore.

I do still get a few messages but nothing like I could do in the past.

But perhaps if I can get them out with the help of a paranormal group that is going to visit next month and try to help me solve this problem, then maybe I can take some time and rest my brain and see what I can get in the future.

Rosemary,

Every man, woman, and child on Earth has an equally powerful soul. Most choose not to accept their power and they thrive upon the oppression that was bestowed upon them as a curse, prior to cognition in most cases. But they don't exactly thrive, do they? They believe in the ideas of God smiting them, and this tears down their ability to generate joy, not to mention love any form of Creator.

The trouble with the way that you've selected to teach is that you're not focusing on you. I think people would prefer to understand what you're experiencing strictly from an emotional standpoint. Most of the world has heard the fantastic stories of spirit contact, premonitions, possessions...some of us have known that first-hand. Those are the trivial "superpowers" Rosemary, and when you tinker with the idea of walking on water to prove something to the world, it's...greed, vanity, and pride.

You need humility right now more than you know, Rosemary. As I told you many, many posts ago, there's a balance between good and evil, and closing unsolved murder cases and/or averting disasters is not good from all perspectives. I don't see it as a form of good or evil. These are choices you've made over the course of several years, and you've depleted not only your positive emotional state, but also your ability to make day-to-day decisions without inner conflict. I firmly believe that if you give up on the importance of the guides, you'll begin to free yourself from the possessions. Why? Because the guides are equally guilty of drawing your love away from yourself.

LightRain might have sounded very helpful to you, but any organization that claims to encourage individuality is encouraging anything but. We don't join groups for strength. We leave groups to become strong, or avoid them to remain strong.

These spiritualists charging big bucks are vultures feeding upon suffering. Rather than join the mission to rid the world of oppression and free the human spirit, they financially rape the victims of organized religion and join a lower rank on the vicious, totem pole. What do the "successful" students do for the most part? They go public and tell everyone how important this organization is to obtaining one's sense of individuality. Doesn't work, sorry.

I don't believe lightrain was trying to sell anything to me because after you insulted her on this forum she and I have been exchanging PM's and she is trying to be helpful to me not sell anything.

I believe she mentioned her website only to tell others that there are many who are interested in the Paranormal.

One day I mentioned the Spirit Possession that I was writing in and mentioned it not to promote it but to tell others the questions they are asking can be answered more effectively by me if they choose to read about the experiences I have been writing about.

The referece to my walking on water was mentioned one day as I worked in the Kitchen talking to the Guides and I made a Joke and looked towards the Heavens and said:

"Well God no one much believes me on these forums so if you could let me walk on water the way they say Jesus Did then I could go down to lake Erie in the summer and surprise everyone by walking on water." then I laughed and this is how this situation goes quite often.

You say I am focusing on me and that others want to know how am I dealing with this emotionally.

I am not really focusing on me to get attention I have been telling what this experience has been like since it all began and how I got into channelling for Spirit and one of the reasons I am doing that is because I am trying to tell others what its all like.

Sure these four are doing these things to me but in all these years I have never come in contact with any other Evil Spirit.

The Source who gives me the Information and the other Guides who came here to tell their Story have never been anything but Kind to me and although they have not as yet influenced the others to leave my body and they haven't proven that they even have this Power they nevertheless want to work in the right way and help to educate others about the Reality of Life after Death.

How am I dealing with this situation you ask.

Well this week the four possessing Spirits have tried everything they can violence wise to try to force me to cut my hair which is almost down to my waist because they say women my age should not have hair this long.

I say its none of their business how long my hair is that its my business and I have the right under the Constitution of the United States to do whatever I want just as they did when they Walked the Earth.

I say under the Consitition of the United States I have the right to worship or not as I choose and worship anything I choose.

This does not mean I don't worship or that I reject God it only means that I should have the freedom to do whatever I want to do as long as I don't break mans law just as they had the freedom to do when they walked the Earth.

Now you might say if thats the Big problem why don't you just apease them and cut your hair and to that I have to say no because there is more to it than that.

One of the Guides has shown me how to have long hair like this at my age and he has given me the knowledge to keep my hair from remaining permanently grey by telling me what to eat to wash away the grey with food and Vitamins and he and I have a plan if these four leave for me to rest and eat the foods he suggests then he wants me to have one of my Relatives or someone else take a picture of my freshly shampooed, and brushed hair and post the picture on my Website to prove to people what someone my ages can look like hair wise when we follow the things he has taught me.

You may call this vain but its not because recently I read a Research paper on the internet that said Researchers have linked Grey Hair to some types of Cancer and they said when the Hair Turns grey it means the Brain Cells are dieing.
Now if we have a way to keep hair colored perhaps we can help them find a way to keep Brain cells from dieing and help people in the future to stay healthier and stay young longer and thereby increase longivity.

Rosemary,

Lightrain's posting of the website had a, "Come one, come all, and bring your check books", message to it. You have to read between the lines. I didn't insult her. I told her to be mindful of the code of conduct, and I insulted the oppressive nature of groups that claim to promote individuality. It's a laughably contradictory concept.



That's not the whole problem. You get angry at people who doubt you, or convince yourself that they're possessed by demons, and warn them that they may be. You even jumped to that conclusion with me a while back when I was trying to reveal a new perspective.



Kind enough to watch as your ability to achieve happiness and make simple, everyday decisions, slips away.



I'm not going to re-post everything that you claimed as emotional reactions, but your discussion of hair was completely devoid of emotion. You're right, I don't care one iota about your hair, but if you'd said something to the effect of, "I loved it when my hair was longer.", or "I had such beautiful hair as a girl.", I might have found a glimmer of hope. You narrated, Rosemary, almost as if you were speaking from the third person.

I also don't care about the crimes solved or the premonitions. It's all trivial and vain. The ability of the spirits to possess you is trivial. You've allowed your preoccupation with selfish guides to separate you from your human existence. You need to develop some selfishness. You're the best example I've ever seen in my entire life of an attempt at selflessness, "people pleasing" (spirit guide pleasing in your case) being perceived as selfishness.

Someone even referred to you as a "24 page attention whore" when this thread was a bit shorter. Do you know what true selflessness is, Rosemary? Loving yourself wholly, completely, and letting it spill to others so they may be inspired to love themselves. You're so wrapped up in these guides and their agendas that you've completely lost track of your own personality.

If you don't extract yourself from this foolish pride, you're going to think this one life has been so important that you have no choice but to float around for all eternity spreading predictions and solving crimes. Look at the number of people who think that spirits represent those who have unresolved issues from life. This is usually true, but that doesn't mean they have to solve all the nonsense by pestering the living. They need to forgive their oppressors, themselves, and take another shot at life. If this guide of yours is hoping to publish a cookbook as you described earlier, he needs to live again by conventional means and try his best. He's only allowing himself to be further oppressed by speaking through you as a spirit to carry out his wishes.

Love yourself, love those around you who are still alive, and ignore any and all spirits so they have no choice but to deal with their pain. And if you think for one second that you've been met by God or Jesus, you need to ask yourself, seriously, how in the world you would possibly know the difference. These guides are not gods. They're suffering souls with seemingly benevolent goals. It's but one more form of oppression inspiring believers to place that much more emphasis on a single lifetime in a string of thousands. Remember what I said about JFK? Dead, get over it.

Crime happens. Get over it. Tragedy is coming and will continue. Get over it.

JFK's physical body may be dead but his Spirit is very much alive in the Spirit World and I intend to help him tell his story simply because he asked me to.

I am not selfish and self centered at all and the talk about the Hair and what causes hair to grow grey is much more than vanity its about Research for the future as Scientists search for the Fountain of Youth and how to keep the Human body healthier and alive longer and more disease free.

And on that note I am going into the kitchen and stir up another batch of our Bread so that I can continue to brush my hair each day and try to convince others that the Spirits can offer much good and in that mixture of Spirits we have a few Spirits like Sterio, Eve, Carrie and George who have nothing better to do than to torment and suffer jealousy and vengance the way they have displayed in this copy.

Perhaps those who called me a 24 hour whore are just too ignorant and inexperienced to grasp the enormity of what I have been writing about.

I'm always speaking from the Third Person because as I said everytime I sit down here to write my fingers are working the keyboard but spirits brains are telling the Story and they quite often tell it like I am writing it.
This is so in some cases they hope no one will believe they are writing here or I at least think that's what why they do it?

Rosemary - don't stop taking the meds - seek professional medical help first. Eliminate psychiatric causes before looking into the realms beyond the material.


Personally I feel hat an extended sojourn at the local puzzle factory will do you a world of good.

Rosemary,

You've developed a joyous version of misery. It's near impossible, if not altogether, for me to convince you of ways to find happiness despite the spiritual issues when you're taking so much pride in allowing others to live vicariously through you.

All you have to do is choose to ignore them. That's the best way to show respect for them. It's disrespectful to satisfy their whims, even if those whims appear divine. You're basically giving candy to two year olds who are crying for it.

Until you abandon the ultimate good/ultimate evil ideation and reduce your pride, you won't see any reduction in attacks. Best of luck.


Brian

I see from your post that you have very little knowledge of Spirit Communication.

I can see from the way you are continuing to respond to my posts that I am not reaching you at all and so I think I need to take a little break from this and continue to write into my personal Journal on a daily basis to explain what is happening in my everyday life as I try to find a solution to all that I am dealing with.

But its not only you I can see I am way out of my element as far as many are concerned and I judge that from some of the responses I am getting about mental illness and things like that and so I will assume that many are not at that point in their development where they can understand the things I am saying.

And so for now I will confine my story to my personal Journal and manuscripts in the future that can be directed more to those who are interested in learning the through through Paranormal Research.

I'm way beyond, shadow people and orbs and bumps in the Night because I communicate with the Spirit World on a daily basis, just as I would anyone here on Earth and am not surprised at those things anymroe.

However I do see that there are several quite knowledgeable invidividuals on here that do have quite a bit of information from experience on the After Life and so I'll leave you in the capable hands of Ed and Frank.

The only thing you should keep in mind when you continue to search for knowledge about the afterlife and that is that people like me who are telling their story and want to share our experiences are not mentally ill at all we are just more knowledgeable than some of you who keep falling back on that old chestnut mentally Ill.

And the things I have gathered about the Spirit World does not make me special or more knowledgeable than many others who are Psychic the only difference is I am not charging for the Knoweldge I gathered I was trying to share it and offer it for free on Forums like this but I must admit my information was not met with much better reception here than it was on the Skeptics Forum and of course I feel like most of them over there are a bunch of pompous asses who never will believe in the afterlife or things that well meaning people like me try to share with them.

Now I am going to continue to try to solve my Possession Problem and if the Demonologist coming next month actually has the power to help me free myself I'll write about it somewhere because I for one want to know if Exorcisms can really drive Evil Spirits out of the Body of a Human Victim.


So carry on.

[font=Franklin Gothic Medium]i believe you Rosemary...alls i can think is that you might need an exorcism.....i thinks its just the devil....but i dont really know anything soo....[font=Franklin Gothic Medium]

Rosemary, I'm sorry to hear what you've been going through for so long. Have you talked to a priest or gone through any medical evaluation? I'm not saying I don't believe you because I deeply do.

You may already know this but I thought I would share it anyway with the people who don't.

Bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, multiple personality disorder and any other personality disorder, I have notice have some similar symptoms. Some maybe worst in one disorder then it is in the other. Being possessed has a lot of the same symptoms as these mental conditions that’s why some people don’t believe anyone can get possessed. So if someone is having the problems you’re having, I tell them to see the doctor. If nothing else see a priest or someone who has experience in these types of issues. I didn’t find out until this summer I was bi-polar but I’ve been suffering from it for a very long time before I got any help. We all know hearing voices in our heads isn’t normal (at least that’s what I’ve been told). All the facts just have to be carefully placed out on the table and gone through. If there is no type of mental illness running through your family and these things are going on then I would totally see a priest. I don’t know if I made much sense but I thought I would be in a word or two.

I hope things can get better for you and I’m sorry you have to go through this.

Rosemary,

I am Brian, but my alias is FrankBlunt. Is there another user, Frank, of which I'm not aware. I began on this site without using my actual first name because I wanted to see what sort of people I'd be facing. I hadn't revealed anything this publicly about my past before, so I conquered many fears and have met some wonderful people. I think you're wonderful, too, Rosemary. I know exactly what you've been dealing with, but I also realize that it's necessary to ignore it to regain one's sense of self.

I've never had anything but good intentions toward you, Rosemary. You and I don't see eye to eye on spiritual crime solving or the importance of clairvoyance. At one time I suggested that you read a book by Dr. Wayne Deyer, but I wasn't calling you mentally ill by any means simply by dropping a doctor's name. Dr. Deyer is a humble spiritualist first and foremost, in my opinion, and I barely think of him as a psychiatrist. The guy is too enlightened to be lumped in with the boneheads that I've encountered in that profession.

What I said regarding selfishness and selflessness was for your benefit in bringing this possession to a close, Rosemary. I don't know if you're going to be checking this site or not, but others may be interested in hearing this uncommon philosophy. When I was still posting on the 'Self Help Magazine Phorum', a woman by the name of Bon began responding. She made herself known as a people pleaser. It was intuition on my part, but she appeared to assume something paranormal in regard to my awareness of her behavior.

People pleasing is doing for others what they can do for themselves. As I'd said to Bon, it's like pulling up a wheelchair for a marathon runner and declaring, "Let me push you, my friend." That's not going to be a positive energy exchange for either party.

This is what you're doing for the spirits. They're taking an interest in Earth without actively participating. They're armchair humans with access to vast knowledge, but stunted emotional growth preventing them from reincarnating. You have to ignore them to truly respect them. You're an enabler, to use the popular psych lingo. Absolutely, they're going to be kind to you and pretend to be everyone you want them to be. When you're feeding a treat to your dog, he's going to perform all his dazzling tricks to receive more.

You need to become selfish. You'd said that you were in no way selfish, and that's precisely the problem. You've focused your attention on external energy and depleted your happiness. Negative emotion, pride, vanity, and greed are not worth giving away, and this is why you receive such harsh reactions. Positive emotion that comes from focusing on you, building your character, your God given talents, sharing them etc., is how you achieve true selflessness through selfishness. In sharing that which comes from within, you achieve reciprocal joy. But you're not sharing you. You're sharing the stories of suffering spirits. Readers and listeners are receptive to the negative energy, consciously or unconsciously, whether they realize it or not.

No one benefits from people pleasing. Sure, the recipients might appreciate it, superficially, at first for having their laziness rewarded, but they suffer in the long term and ultimately rebel against the attempts at oppression. And what happens to the pleaser? He/she may become convinced that doing good is evil, based on the reactions received. That leads to very deep depression.

Hopefully, soon when we die, when our higher brain functions sease, you shall be set free from this hell that your realatives have bestowed apon you.

Mostar,

Rosemary is in desperate need of peace; I couldn't agree more. But sometime 20 years or so ago, she found a reason to escape her emotional growth. She built a nest and has been warming the eggs ever since. Who knows? Maybe there was no trauma other than the fascination of the "guides" that drew her attention away from direct involvement in life.

If she opts for selfishness, which is very difficult for most to accomplish with all the fears we've been taught on matters of ego and narcissism, she may end up dealing with very painful memories from her childhood or early adulthood prior to discovering joy. However, she'll be much wiser and happier for having done so, from the eternal perspective.

Thank you for believing because it is true.

You're right I do need an exorcism and should have had one long ago but finding someone to believe this is happening to a Human and getting a Priest or anyone to believe and help with an Exiorcism is not easy.

I did finally find a Paranormal Group who has a Demonologist as one of their members who has set up a tentative appointment for early next month and at that time they will bring equipment into the house and see if they can record this activity and the Demonologist will try to help me get them out of my body.

Several Psychics in the group will try to communicate with the Possessing Spirits and try to help me talk them out of my body and if that doesn't work then the Demonologist allegedly has had some luck in exorcising Spirits from a Human body and so we will just have to wait until they arrive to see how that goes.

In the meantime these Evil Spirits are making an all out violent attack against my brain and other organs day and night.

I am not writing this at this time to get sympathy because I know no one can really help me who reads this but I am writing it anyway to tell others what a Possession is like so that when they watch movies like Emily Rose and the Exorcist they know that its real.

Of course Hollywood has to make it into a movie but they do the best they can having not physically lived through a Possession such as I an others that the movie is based on have.
And while many want to believe these four are Demons or Devils which they are when they walked the Earth they were three of my Relatives, Carrie, George and Eve and Dr. Petas from Sylvania, Ohio who decided to challenge a Higher Power and possess my body and see if God anyone including a priest can force them out of my body and of course they are calling this a Scientific Experiment but I am calling it a violent possession.

I know many say ignore them and they will go away but this is not true.

Others say show them some respect and be kind to them and this is not an easy thing to do when the four Evil Cowards are trying tot ear my brain out and do molestation day and night trying to get me not to look calm to those around me.

Much of what they are doing is because Spiritual Writer ruth Montgomery who wrote with her Guides Thomas and Lily for years wrote:

"When Evil spirits become so evil they can't be rehabilitated God apepars and destroys them".

One of the Guides who is trying to talk them out of my body yesterday appeared and told them when the Demonologist does the Exorcism if they don't leave my body they will be destroyed.

Is that true?
Can an Exorcist destroy them if they don't leave my body when an Exorcism RiTual is performed?

Only time will tell.

In the meantime everyone who knew Dr. Stergio Nicholas Petas when he lived in Toledo, Ohio will know how the Psychiatrist they knew began to behave after he met my three Relatives in the Spirit World back in l985 when he died of a sudden heart attack.

I felt very sad when he died like everyone else did and so when he appeared and asked me to tell his family he is alive and communicating with them and they refused to believe and told me if I didn't stop telling them this they would take action then Dr. Petas and the other three set out to prove to others just what an Evil Spirit is.

I would put the name of Dr. Petas hospital in the copy now but he never goes there anymore so what is the Point.

I know there are those who say why put his full name into the copy and to that I say its to try to force him out of my body and so now I am telling him I will wait for a few minutes before I file this and if you get out of my body and go in peace I will delete your name from the copy.

So how about it Dr. Petas do you get out of my body and take the other three so I will delete your name from the copy?

I counted to 50 and he refused to get out so we will have to keep trying to get Dr. Stergio Nicholas Petas of Sylvania, and Toledo, Ohio out of my body.

Now Dr. petas I'll give you a few more minutes to think about this before I file it so what do you say will you take Eve, carrie and George and leave my body?

He still has refused to leave my body so you see I am a Hostage of Dr. Stergio Nicholas Petas from Sylvania, Ohio and he says his family didn't believe he is alive and so he doesn't care what anyone thinks now if God wants them out he's going to have to prove he has the power to remove them.

Rosemary, what field was Dr P active in during his life? What keywords would bring up an internet search for him? I've tried on the information you listed above and all that came up in Google was two of your Journal entries and this thread...

He was a Psychiatrist who worked with many but he was mostly noted for his work with troubled teens from the Aristicratic part of town.

He of course had a few others but mainly those who had good insurance policies who were available for many visits and it also helped if the women were attractive so there were some fringe benefits.

He called them neurotic and in need of special help.

Dr. P. helped me with one of my teens who were going through a little drug experimentation and turning on their mother when they disapproved of a new man in my life.

that man was not Dr. P. but he had taken a special interest in me and before he died he knew that I was a practicing Psychic and I guess this is why he came here to have me help him tell the world he is alive.

But I would like to point out its not those things that I believe have caused Dr. P. and my relatives to do this its the kinds of Psychic Information I was able to gather that caused them to try to stop me.

Eve and Carrie do at times write like its a Big romantic obsession between Dr. P. and I but that's not true I just let go most of the time to apease them as they re writing it through automatic writing and the two of them say if they can force Dr. P. out they will go with him but he refuses to go because his name is in the copy but eve and Carrie are putting it there to force him out and so I say unless he gets out leave it.

All he needs to do to end this situation is to bring the three others and leave my body and he has been given permission from a Higher power to leave this body before the demonologist comes to try to force them out of my body.

Another reason he is doing this is because of information I collected about the Mafia and Crimes they committed and he felt if he outed me in the copy they would come after me but so far I have had no trouble from the whatsoever.

rosemary, a quick question... have you ever tried seeking psychiatric help? i can neither believe nor discredit you until you have done so. if you go to a psychiatrist's office and perhaps try some medicine, and it doesn't work, then everyone will finally believe you. however, without such an experiment, people are not going to listen to you and will dismiss you as a crazy person who has just never tried seeking help.

doing this would be of great help in getting others to believe you and assuring yourself that you are not crazy. however, if you refuse to seek temporary help, it makes me think that it is probably not real and all in your head. i am not trying to be mean or anything... it's just that i do not feel i can believe you until you have at least TRIED to seek professional help. but by all means, i will believe you once you have done so.

good luck,
ash

edit: and for the record, i have seen the movie "the exorcism of emily rose". i actually own the dvd. after having seen it and doing much research on the topic, i have concluded that emily was a victim indeed, but not of possession. she was suffering from epilepsy, and with the right treatment, would have been able to live a normal life. sadly, they did not fully consider the medical possibilities before jumping straight to a spiritual conclusion. this is why i am asking you to seek psychiatric help and THEN report back to UM with the results.

Do you suggest all Psychics seek Psychiatriac help or is it only the ones who claim to be possessed?

As for Emily Rose I have been told by someone who knows in the Spirit World who knows that the German Girl which the movie was based on was absolutely possessed by Evil Spirits and that it doesn't matter what anyone says its the absolute truth.

I'm surprised that more Humans aren't complaining about being possessed by Evil Spirits because some of those in the Spirit World tell me that many killers who say they were following the voices inside them were actually possessed and following the orders of Evil Spirits.

He tells me that usually the Evil Spirits are relatives or people they knew when they walked the Earth and they are back now to seek vengance and the easiest way for the Evil Spirits to do that is to try to destroy the happiness and life of those they possess and this is what causes them to feel power.

As for seeing a psychiatrist Dr. P. one of the Evil Spirits was a Psychiatrist when he walked the Earth before he passed over in l985 and as you can see he isn't any better adjusted in the Hereafter than were my three Realtives all who were school dropouts and I feel that Dr. P. being a Psychiatrist may have recruited and brainwashed my three relatives into helping him hang on to me from beyond the Veil of Death.

Even his wife and son watching him from another part of the Spirit World hasn't influenced him to come out and he said he doesn't care because his Vows said until death do us part and this frees him from past family obligations.

Because I'm sick to death of this thread and wish it locked for good, I'm going to share with you all what I found online after doing a search for "Dr. Petas". It seems to me that Rosemary hasn't seen a therapist, nor real psychiatrist etc.. She wants to suffer from her mental illness. And now, the links I promised you all for reading:

http://journals.aol.com/kitty1392/TwoWorlds/entries/166

http://journals.aol.com/kitty1392/TwoWorlds/entries/94

As you will read, if you read from her very first blog post to the last one, she definately is in denial about having any illness whatsoever. Maybe she was brought up to believe that it's better to speak of ghosts than mental illness in the family? Nevertheless, I feel she just wants attention and that's why she's spreading all this garbage...yes I said garbage...around on almost everyone else's thread that'll link them back to this one thread.

Please moderators, lock this thread. It's caused enough upset.

Thanks.

Whether you believe what I write or not its all the absolute God's truth and if a Possession can happen to me it can happen to anyone.
If this was not true do you think I would sit around for 20 years writing about this?
No and if you don't like reading what I'm writing why don't you just go somewhere and put your head in the sand and let the world go buy and never face reality.
that's what a lot of the current generation does and that's why they call them the X generation.

I did not know you were still here Rosemary. I have not been keeping up with this post and I can't really remember the plot to this so I'll try my best. I do not know what you have tried so here are my suggestions:
Exorcism
Ignore it
Be firm with it and ask it to leave
Find a psychic to help
Shield
Pray(the most powerful shield)
Talk it out with the spirit
*most of all, you have to want it to leave*

Yes I would since there has never been a true proven psychic. This is just going round and round with no real end. She needs mental help. Anything else is just useless conjecture that is only going to hurt her in the long run. This thread should actually be closed since it is not getting anywhere or solving anything.

Exorcisms are not so easy to come by but next month I do have a paranormal group and several Psychics will be a part of that Group and one is a Demonologist and we will see what they can do?

All the other things I have tried.

I came on here the other day and was not going to write again but these Four Possessing Spirits have made an all out attack against my Brain and caused me such pain that I had no choice but to respond to some on here who have said such unkind things.

I do it not to retaliate but to tell anyone who becomes involved in Spirit Communication they should know if they end up with a problem such as I have that no one will believe and its so hard to get a Priest to perform an Exorcism because the truth is I believe most priests are Terrified of being possessed by the Demons themselves.

I have decided since no oneone much believes me here I will give it a rest and when the Paranormal Group shows up and I have a chance to see if they can erradicate the Possessing Spirits then I will return to tell everyone if I got rid of them or if I must let them sit inside my body until the day I die?

As far as I can tell there is no Higher Power that I can pray to who is helping me to get them out of my Body and so for now I feel I am on my own in a sea of naysayers and cruel nonbelievers.

Don't get me wrong I believe in God and I pray to him all the time but so far he has not swooshed down here and rescued me and I am beginning to wonder if he isn't using me as a Guinnea Pig to tell my Story here to make believers out of Earthlings?

I believe Unexplained Mysteries is exactly the place for me to tell my Story and to those who don't believe or who are complaining about my Story why don't you go to one of the other posts that ask inexperienced questions that help you to feel safe dabbling and which keeps you from facing the real truth about communication beyond the Veil of Death.

Think for a moment the various means that people die and ask yourself is it possible that they may be a little unhappy and want to come back to earth and retrieve a body especially after Ruth Montgomery wrote into her Book 'Strangers Among Us' where she says that spirits walk back into human bodies with the help of a Higher power.

Well these four read that book and they have tried to take over my body and hopefully force my spirit out so they can have it but so far that hasn't been possible and I don't think it ever could be possible and I think anyone who believe in Walk-In's or body snatchers will believe most anything.
So to those who are complaining about my story here and keep talking Mental Illness wake up and smell the truth and be happy that you met one Psychic who is willing to risk it all to give it to you straight.

Wow lady, you have some huevos to tell someone to stick their head in the sand. Not to mention when you call others smart asses because you don't like hearing the truth. I strongly suggest you get medical help for your sickness. This sickness has gone on for 3 years now online. I think you don't want help though because you love the attention it brings you too much.

May God bless you hun.....and soon!