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Irish
QUOTE(Rainbow Rowan @ Oct 4 2005, 02:39 PM) [snapback]873746[/snapback]

We are talking about the book that Raelianism uses as its bible, ergo I did not say it was my own idea.


The Raelian Bible
One author.
One mans opinion.

The Christian Bible
The Bible contains 66 books, divided among the Old and New Testaments.
There are 39 books in the Old Testament.
There are 27 books in the New Testament.
The Bible was written in three languages: Hebrew, Aramaic, and Koine Greek.
The Bible was written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit by over 40 different authors from all walks of life: shepherds, farmers, tent-makers, physicians, fishermen, priests, philosophers and kings. Despite these differences in occupation and the span of years it took to write it, the Bible is an extremely cohesive and unified book. It was written over a period of some 1,500 years, from around 1450 B.C. (the time of Moses) to about 100 A.D. (following the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ).

Nadia Blue
QUOTE(Stewey1972 @ Oct 4 2005, 03:55 PM) [snapback]873671[/snapback]

No. Rainbow has stated that the Raelians believe that the abandoned cities in the moutains of Peru, etc are former cities of the Elohim.

I think it's rather demeaning to human achievement to claim that in my opinion.


Okay, got it. thumbsup.gif
ClaUdEhErO
QUOTE(JMPD1 @ Oct 4 2005, 09:44 PM) [snapback]872993[/snapback]

OK, looking at the table of contents for this opus, I see that your founder spends a great deal of time and energy re-interpreting the stories of the old testament, with the alien twist.

Reading the authors postscript, he makes reference the the 'embassy', raelian architets (I hope they are licensed!), and the donations being assembled to build it.

Any pictures or architectural drawings to look at? As a keen student of design and architecture, I'd love to see them.



I believe there are designs been done, and this can be comfirmed with Rael at H.O.

Do you have a vast amount of land where we can build it with imunity? wub.gif
JMPD1
I have a few acres in the mountains, but I don't think the Us government, nor the state of New York would appreciate it if I gave it over to an organization to be classed as "soverneign soil".

Oh, and I see no one has responded to my queries about "geniocracy"
Nadia Blue
*deep breath* Okay, I still haven't received an answer about the apparent differences between his highness taking certain parts of the bible literally, and some parts metaphorically. Even though I asked it here and in the other thread.
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Now. This part said by his highness about the parting of the Red Sea.

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The smoke emitted behind the people of Israel made a curtain, which slowed their pursuers. Then the crossing of the water was made possible by a repulsion beam, which cleared a passageway


This has been explained. It has a scientific explanation that has nothing to do with "repulsion beams". Source This study was published in the Bulletin of the Russian Academy of Sciences.
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Just want to point something out and ask a question at this point. Reading through the book, there are numerous references to the Elohim being afraid of the humans. Why? They certainly have more capability than we did at the time to inflict damage.
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I find this bit highly insulting

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This is obviously to prevent sick or deformed people, who were symbols of failure and therefore unbearable to the eyes of the creators, from presenting themselves before them.

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There's more...
JMPD1
apparently, the elohim, although superior to us technologically and physically, are still subject to primitive human emotions.

Most specifically pride, and lust.

It enough to shake one's faith, it is.
ClaUdEhErO
QUOTE(amybutts @ Oct 5 2005, 02:24 AM) [snapback]873340[/snapback]

Okay. Thank you for the answer WBS....

That movement just sent women back 100 years......


The elohim wish to communicate with the women firstly because they are a race of humans who are far more in touch with their own feminine side, to what we humans are here on Earth. They still doubt the males of this planet to be far to macho and egotistical to be trusted as much as a woman to have the first contact with. (I know now you are going to say "then why make Rael their Prophet")? I do not know the answer to that one.

The one land mass can be and has been proven true by scientists, who have discovered that if you look at the way all the oil fields throughout the world are placed, if we were to re shift the land masses back into their original places, it would form a circle of that mineral. wub.gif

Love and light...
Time for work again. no.gif
Azalin
QUOTE(JMPD1 @ Oct 4 2005, 10:47 PM) [snapback]873940[/snapback]

I have a few acres in the mountains, but I don't think the Us government, nor the state of New York would appreciate it if I gave it over to an organization to be classed as "soverneign soil".

Oh, and I see no one has responded to my queries about "geniocracy"


They should have no problems building it in the moutains, just be another one of their mountain cities ya know, no problem.
Nadia Blue
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Later the creators taught human beings how to inject themselves to treat snakebites.

Make a fiery serpent and set it upon a pole so that anyone bitten could look at it and live. Numbers 21:8

As soon as someone was bitten he "looked" at the "serpent of brass", that is to say a syringe was brought to him so that he could be injected with serum.


This seems to be reaching a bit for me. innocent.gif

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As far as the war at Jericho, the book says that it was a "flash war". It doesn't give too much of an explanation. What is a "flash war"?

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As to Samson. His mother was told not to shave any of his hair. Explanation....

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The point about not shaving off any hair is very important. The human brain is like a huge transmitter, capable of sending out a multitude of very accurate waves and thoughts. In fact, telepathy is nothing more than that.

But this type of transmitter requires antennae, and the hair and beard are these antennae. That is why you should not shave off any hair if you want to make use of your transmitters.


I don't know about anybody else, but anything that gets me out of shaving is good. grin2.gif Seriously though, I have certain "abilities" that I won't go into here. But they've never been affected by shaving, not shaving, cutting my hair, etc. rolleyes.gif

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And am I reading correctly that the "prophets" of the bible were aliens?

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Here's a question for anyone. Is this bit true? I've never heard this.

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But the people of Israel had begun adoring metal idols; they had also become cannibals and were completely immoral, much to the disgust of their creators...


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This refers to the human scientists who had accumulated sufficient knowledge to undertake a trip to the creators' planet but were destroyed at Sodom and Gomorrah.....It was those human scientists of Sodom and Gomorrah who said:

I will rise above the cloud banks and will equal myself to the most high. Isaiah 14:14


So, back then, they were going to jump into the Tower of Babel and take off to the stars? Somehow, I think not. no.gif
Nadia Blue
QUOTE(ClaUdEhErO @ Oct 4 2005, 07:11 PM) [snapback]873976[/snapback]

The one land mass can be and has been proven true by scientists, who have discovered that if you look at the way all the oil fields throughout the world are placed, if we were to re shift the land masses back into their original places, it would form a circle of that mineral. wub.gif

Love and light...
Time for work again. no.gif


I know the one land mass thing has been proven. The point was, I didn't see how the mass could have separated given that only the outside of it would've been melted by the tasers or whatever. The middle would've crumbled.


QUOTE(Azalin @ Oct 4 2005, 07:20 PM) [snapback]873984[/snapback]

They should have no problems building it in the moutains, just be another one of their mountain cities ya know, no problem.



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JMPD1
Could we name this soon to be ancient mountain retreat "Joeyopolis"?
Nadia Blue
Stop it. We're having *snort* a *giggle* discussion here. rolleyes.gif
MichaelS
Yeah... one where many of WBS's questions are still awaiting a decent answer.

Gotta love her brains. grin2.gif
Nadia Blue
I don't think that's my "brains" you're staring at. laugh.gif rofl.gif
MichaelS
Save it for the Pub, luv. LOL

We're talking to Raelians here. wink2.gif
JMPD1
I didn't know those were her brains. Or is that just what you call them in Canada?
innocent.gif

Anyway, back on topic:

Hey Raelians! We've collectively posted some questions, and are still awaiting your response. What's up?
pallidin
QUOTE(ClaUdEhErO @ Oct 4 2005, 05:11 PM) [snapback]873976[/snapback]

(I know now you are going to say "then why make Rael their Prophet")? I do not know the answer to that one.




Here's the answer: The alien Elohim are ENTIRELY fake, and were created by Rael to justify his pathological appetite for women.
pallidin
Equally disturbing is the fact that the Raelian Movement permits extra-marital affairs.
In the United States, an extra-marital affair is illegal in the sense that it is a legal basis for divorce.
The Raelians counter by saying the institution of marriage is an "old idea" and that spouse/spouse consent of extra-marital activity is a loop-hole in the law.

Ever wonder why Raelians are not prominent in the Muslim and certain other faiths? The reason is that extra-marital affairs in some faiths are legally punishable by death. So, is it any wonder that the Raelians persue recruitment from elsewhere?

The only reason for the whole Raelian Movement is for Rael himself to have daily "intimate" contact with many women. That's what it's all about. Of course, having them call him "His Holiness" is a real plus to his perverted ego.
Azalin
He should of become a porno star.
pallidin
Hey, Rael, why don't you join in this discussion?

Surely, with all the money you have you can afford a simple Internet connection. Oh, I'm sure you already have, judging from your web site.
So, are you AFRAID? Sure you are. You are afraid of people like us who THINK FOR OURSELVES and treat women as equals instead of some "object" of your desires.

Come on Rael, this is a direct challenge, but I just know that you are too paranoid and AFRAID to be here.
pallidin
QUOTE(Azalin @ Oct 4 2005, 07:26 PM) [snapback]874147[/snapback]

He should of become a porno star.


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ClaUdEhErO
QUOTE(Irish @ Oct 5 2005, 07:18 AM) [snapback]873815[/snapback]

The Raelian Bible
One author.
One mans opinion.

The Christian Bible
The Bible contains 66 books, divided among the Old and New Testaments.
There are 39 books in the Old Testament.
There are 27 books in the New Testament.
The Bible was written in three languages: Hebrew, Aramaic, and Koine Greek.
The Bible was written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit by over 40 different authors from all walks of life: shepherds, farmers, tent-makers, physicians, fishermen, priests, philosophers and kings. Despite these differences in occupation and the span of years it took to write it, the Bible is an extremely cohesive and unified book. It was written over a period of some 1,500 years, from around 1450 B.C. (the time of Moses) to about 100 A.D. (following the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ).



Hey Irish you forgot to mention the Clowns and Charletans also. w00t.gif wub.gif laugh.gif
ClaUdEhErO
QUOTE(JMPD1 @ Oct 5 2005, 08:47 AM) [snapback]873940[/snapback]

I have a few acres in the mountains, but I don't think the Us government, nor the state of New York would appreciate it if I gave it over to an organization to be classed as "soverneign soil".

Oh, and I see no one has responded to my queries about "geniocracy"


What are your queries on "geniocracy" Reals free e-book explains everything you may wish to find on the subject, and it too can be downloaded for free. thumbsup.gif
ClaUdEhErO
QUOTE(Azalin @ Oct 5 2005, 09:20 AM) [snapback]873984[/snapback]

They should have no problems building it in the moutains, just be another one of their mountain cities ya know, no problem.



Yes and we could re-name it the mountain of hope. wub.gif
ClaUdEhErO
[quote name='pallidin' date='Oct 5 2005, 11:16 AM' post='874144']
Equally disturbing is the fact that the Raelian Movement permits extra-marital affairs.
In the United States, an extra-marital affair is illegal in the sense that it is a legal basis for divorce.
The Raelians counter by saying the institution of marriage is an "old idea" and that spouse/spouse consent of extra-marital activity is a loop-hole in the law.

Ever wonder why Raelians are not prominent in the Muslim and certain other faiths? The reason is that extra-marital affairs in some faiths are legally punishable by death. So, is it any wonder that the Raelians persue recruitment from elsewhere?

The only reason for the whole Raelian Movement is for Rael himself to have daily "intimate" contact with many women. That's what it's all about. Of course, having them call him "His Holiness" is a real plus to his perverted ego.
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Hi Pallidin. You know, you really should try to stop reading those 'Mad Magazines' where you must be getting allot of this information from, it is not healthy for your brain.

The 'Important Law" which we Raelians share is this: We may have one partner or two or two million+ and they may be of the same sex or opposite or whatever, as long as we are not hurting anyone with our actions, and that everyone involved is in complete agreement with these actions. A true Raelian does not need to go behind their spouses back like the majority of most married men and women we have on the face of the Earth at present. What a refreshing change! Open honesty! wub.gif
ClaUdEhErO
QUOTE(JMPD1 @ Oct 5 2005, 09:03 AM) [snapback]873963[/snapback]

apparently, the elohim, although superior to us technologically and physically, are still subject to primitive human emotions.

Most specifically pride, and lust.

It enough to shake one's faith, it is.


I dont know why Maverick, but you just keep on coming back to milk the same cow in most of your postings. Sex, Sex, Sex! If Rael was so loaded with money, do you not think that he could spend every day of his life in a high class Bordello, and out of the spotlight.

Why if he has all these funds from us raelians he could even escape to some deserted Island with his hoards of followers who are just dying to make love to this 58 year old man.

Good thinking 99... w00t.gif wub.gif thumbsup.gif
ClaUdEhErO
QUOTE(WannabeSkeptic @ Oct 5 2005, 09:24 AM) [snapback]873991[/snapback]

I know the one land mass thing has been proven. The point was, I didn't see how the mass could have separated given that only the outside of it would've been melted by the tasers or whatever. The middle would've crumbled.
laugh.gif rofl.gif wub.gif


A flash war would be a war that only lasts for hours rather than months or years, and it would envolve neuclear weapons.

The snake thing, was a syringe that the scientists used with an anti venom for snake bites.

The hair of Sampson when shaved off made him loose his power. (His power was to use telepathy, through which the hair is described as antenne for our onboard computer the brain).

There I hope I have covered all the questions. wub.gif
ClaUdEhErO
QUOTE(101 @ Oct 5 2005, 04:24 AM) [snapback]873524[/snapback]

It really does sound good. Doesn't it?


"Forgive them father for they know not what they say".

"I Love You" wub.gif
JMPD1
QUOTE(ClaUdEhErO @ Oct 5 2005, 02:00 AM) [snapback]874451[/snapback]

I dont know why Maverick, but you just keep on coming back to milk the same cow in most of your postings. Sex, Sex, Sex! If Rael was so loaded with money, do you not think that he could spend every day of his life in a high class Bordello, and out of the spotlight.

Why if he has all these funds from us raelians he could even escape to some deserted Island with his hoards of followers who are just dying to make love to this 58 year old man.

Good thinking 99... w00t.gif wub.gif thumbsup.gif



And why don't YOU get your mind out of the gutter sparky?

The free downloadable book states that the ELOHIM want the most beautiful women, and that THEY took pride in THEIR creations. Maybe you should re-read your propaganda, opps, I mean your testament.

also, you cretin, it states that the Elohim won't return until they feel that humans have the proper reverence, appreciation, and contritness to "their" creators.

Now, what happens when your 'prophet' dies? who takes over the reins of leadership?

Funny how you and your cronies beg us for questions with relevance, but you reply sarcastically, and parrot the phrase 'read the book' to every query raised.

Nadia Blue
disgust.gif Claude, thank you for the flash war explanation. However, you didn't even begin to address a vast majority of my questions. And I know the power that Samson's hair was supposed to have had. I still stand by my statement pertaining to that. thumbsup.gif
ShaunZero
Is it against the rules on these forums to double post, may be a little off-topic, but I hate when I see people do it and no mods say anything. O_o...
Nadia Blue
Zero, that's why I didn't bring all my questions onto this page as well. wink2.gif
Essan
QUOTE(ClaUdEhErO @ Oct 5 2005, 12:11 AM) [snapback]873976[/snapback]


The one land mass can be and has been proven true by scientists,


Presumably you mean Pangea? Which was comprised of continents formed from the break-up of Rodinia which was comprised of continents formed from the break-up of the previous super-continent and so on.... There hasn't been just one 'single land mass' - there have been several.

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who have discovered that if you look at the way all the oil fields throughout the world are placed, if we were to re shift the land masses back into their original places, it would form a circle of that mineral.


Er, no no.gif
XSAS

Every now and again I venture into this part of UM and now I know why I stay clear of it.

Another freak cult group. Another kidnapping and extortion group thet are probaby keeping their victims, generally living in small chicken wire cages, Run by an a amphibian clone from the LDS clone facility of Orem Utah. Maintaining control by the use of mind control type weapons teasers, stun guns sub-acoustic devices remote mind control implants, Until the victims are under their horrible claw, knives, butchery equipment and other things unmentionable.

I speculate that all the Railiens are some form of clones using money to eliminate humans and replace us with some thing out of a frog pond.

Due to the behavior of the toad keeping some of its victims alive generally in some mold mildew and famine to perhaps extort a signature.

Yelekiah
QUOTE(Essan @ Oct 4 2005, 11:52 AM) [snapback]873257[/snapback]

Hmmm, so Earth is decimated by nuclear weapons - that leave no trace.

Actually, there are 12,000 year old radioactive human skeletons and charred mountain tops
(found in the Indus Valley?) according to the book the God Code. Sorry, WBS, I wasn't ignoring you, my computer is getting fixed right now. I think you misunderstood what I said. Yes, the Garden was obviously on Earth, but I was saying that it was possible that the exiled Elohim colonized elsewhere.
Nadia Blue
You mean elsewhere on Earth? Or in the sky? The book says they had to have guards at their gates to protect them from the humans.
Yelekiah
QUOTE(JMPD1 @ Oct 4 2005, 09:37 AM) [snapback]873084[/snapback]

"geniocracy" - rule by the intelligentsia.

Any comments on this by the believers? Any reason why bigotry by brain is any better than bigotry for any other reason?

I apologize for the apparant randomness of my posts, but as things strike me, I post.

They have "bigotry" of age to vote and to be in office around the world. Human progression, according to the Elohim, lies in genius.
Yelekiah
They did with nuclear weapons. I was saying that they had the technology to go both. Right now I'm going through this thread trying to answer all the questions. I'll be finished soon...
Nadia Blue
Yel, use quotes or a reference or something. I don't know what you were just referring to. no.gif
XSAS
QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Oct 5 2005, 02:27 PM) [snapback]874653[/snapback]

They did with nuclear weapons. I was saying that they had the technology to go both. Right now I'm going through this thread trying to answer all the questions. I'll be finished soon...


I would cut back on the medication if I were you.
Yelekiah
QUOTE(JMPD1 @ Oct 5 2005, 07:25 AM) [snapback]874557[/snapback]

And why don't YOU get your mind out of the gutter sparky?

The free downloadable book states that the ELOHIM want the most beautiful women

Internal ethereal beauty, since the Elohim are of a spiritual nature.
Yelekiah
XSAS, this isn't my belief, it's in a book. I'm answering questions. But since you haven't read this entire thread you wouldn't know that. Please, read the entire thread next time to prevent yourself from looking like an idiot.
I read the book, unlike others around here, and I'm trying to help with the thread.
Nadia Blue
QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Oct 5 2005, 09:33 AM) [snapback]874666[/snapback]

Internal ethereal beauty, since the Elohim are of a spiritual nature.


Nope. At one point they say that they would've been offended if "deformed" people brought food and whatnot to them. yes.gif I do believe I quoted this bit.

EDIT: I'm reading the book as we speak. This is why all the questions.
Yelekiah
QUOTE(WannabeSkeptic @ Oct 5 2005, 09:37 AM) [snapback]874671[/snapback]

Nope. At one point they say that they would've been offended if "deformed" people brought food and whatnot to them. yes.gif I do believe I quoted this bit.

EDIT: I'm reading the book as we speak. This is why all the questions.

I read that part as well, but I was referring to the women that have a feminine energy.
XSAS
QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Oct 5 2005, 02:35 PM) [snapback]874667[/snapback]

XSAS, this isn't my belief, it's in a book. I'm answering questions. But since you haven't read this entire thread you wouldn't know that. Please, read the entire thread next time to prevent yourself from looking like an idiot.
I read the book, unlike others around here, and I'm trying to help with the thread.


Thank you for your observation.. I have read enough here to understand the discussion... All anyone here says is "read the book, read the book" only an idiot would believe this crap.. What is worrying is you probably believe this stuff.

Yelekiah
These sick people were failures genetically because the Elohim wanted to create perfections in DNA. So it was unbearable that their creations were not up to their standards, despite that they still worked on it.
Yelekiah
No, I don't believe it, but I do like to take several different sides. It's a fun challenge reading the book, XSAS. In fact, if you look in Christian topics, I'll be pro or con, etc.
Yelekiah
QUOTE(Irish @ Oct 4 2005, 05:18 PM) [snapback]873815[/snapback]

The Raelian Bible
One mans opinion.

It would be more accurate to say that it is the message from the Elohim to mankind in the book. The Elohim that have watched the experiences of man and now wish for them to progress. Their message is also to let mankind know their true origins.
Yelekiah
QUOTE(WannabeSkeptic @ Oct 5 2005, 09:28 AM) [snapback]874657[/snapback]

Yel, use quotes or a reference or something. I don't know what you were just referring to. no.gif

Sorry, WBS, I'll do that from now on. Here you go:
"Soldiers with atomic disintegration weapons were placed at the entrance to the creators' residence to prevent human beings from stealing more scientific knowledge" (pg 25)
Essan
QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Oct 5 2005, 02:20 PM) [snapback]874638[/snapback]

Actually, there are 12,000 year old radioactive human skeletons and charred mountain tops
(found in the Indus Valley?) according to the book the God Code.


There's a castle called Hogwarts full of witches according to a book I read once.......

The radioactive skeleton story is a complete hoax, perpetuated by those who fail to check their sources and are happy to accept without proof any ludicrous story if it fits their pet theory.

Though no doubt the supporters of the story will claim that the complete and utter absence of such skeletons or any reference to them in any archaeological report is simply proof of a cover up.....
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