No problem. Just waiting for you to finish. Take your time, hon.

I agree with XSAS I did actually read the 400pg book and its filled with nothing more then fairytales written by Rael. Its just as bad as any over religious book. It's hard for me to understand how 55,000+ people can think that Rael is in contact with the Elohim.. I can buy part of the story where other intelligent beings could have created life here on earth. Once we reach a level of technology where we can fully understand DNA and how to manipulate it I can easily see humans creating life on other planets. Mars is already in the works to get colonized. If we are able to make interstellar flights to planets similiar to earth i dont see why we wouldnt create life there if it wasnt already present...
but what i cant buy is that Rael if their chosen one. I think if the Elohim do exist they would be intelligent enough to bring about their movement in a much more efficient way. Rael has been doing this how long?? over 15 years and he has only managed to convice less the 1% of the human population to adore their creators pretty sad stats. If they truly wanted their creations to be aware of their creators there would be much better ways to accomplish this then haveing 1 sole person as a contact for the entire human race. Some of raels ideas and beliefs do sound good which is the reason why i think people follow him but listen to your innervoice if this person is really who he says he is. According to Rael they can change our DNA to give us extended life. Does it make any sense to any of you Raelians that their prophet wouldnt be given this luxury??

The book is not fictional. It recently came out.
edit: I was responding to Essan, I didn't know people were posting.

is that the book by greg beardon

It's also hard for me to understand that a vast majority of people believe that humans are only 6000 years old (despite that science has disproved this) and have the notion that God sits on a cloud. etc. "Let there be light" doesn't explain the origins of the universe. But people still believe it.

Not sure, but he had references in his bibliography of the charred mountain tops. People always thought they were unusual. Why are they there?

Ah, it may be marketed as being 'fact', but that doesn't mean it's true

Are you talking about the metal as in the Golden Calf of the Bible?
Have you tried shaving your head and body WBS(not saying that you should!)? It might affect the full potential, you never know.

(But seriously, don't do that)

Sir I am not a cretin! I fell sure though that by your reply you certainly are! If the Prophet dies, I feel sure that you would be able to take over the role while you still know everything, except how to read a book you moron. I would like to say to all the others who are hungry to find the truths to look at all the different things as you have been doing, and thank you for your thoughts, and remember the true hero resides within yourself.

Love and best regard's to you all! I know when i'm not wanted...

Essan, look at the multitude of sources in that book. It's insane. It's factual. Go straight to the bibliography on the charred mountain tops, etc.

I'm talking about "abilities" that are supposed to be affected by hair removal. I've had very long hair, very short hair, a week at at time without shaving (anything ), and shaving every day (this is the norm, thank God). I've never noticed the slightest difference in my personal abilities.

You keep repeating this: It would be more accurate to say that it is the message from the Elohim to mankind in the book,

But in reality, it is simply claude telling you that the aliens told him.

You must have a lot of faith in the veracity the man.

Perhaps unlike Sampson you are more advanced and do not need hair. what are your powers, if you don't mind me asking?

He said it was an opinion, and I was saying that if you look at it from a different perpective, it wouldn't be. And no, I have faith in no one.
edit: except my landlord.

methinks you doth protest too much Yelekiah.

And the 'claude' I was referring to was the washed out race car driver, not our contentious spouter of wisdom on this board.

As I said, I'll not address that here. There are a few here who could vouch for me, and I've displayed a small bit of them to yourself. Though, I may have demonstrated them in a bit too subtle of a way.

Derr, I know. I still stick to my answer.

I agree with you Yelekiah i dont see why people believe so much in that either. but that wasnt a very good reply to my questions. maybe there was too much other stuff in my post for you to motice the question.

Why dont the Elohim grant Rael extended life? Why choose such a poor pick to represent yourself to humanity. He is not doing to good of a job preparing the way for them you would think they would not be too satisfied with him and try a different approach.

Thank you, Captain Obvious.

Sooo, you are saying that the prophet rael/claude is merely expressing his opinions in his story?

So the whole is based on his perspective of how he would like things to be?

The reason they chose Rael was because he was somewhat known in France. Since he wasn't a scientist, he wouldn't make the message difficult to read. Since he wasn't involved in literature, he wouldn't make it superfluous, ad nauseum.
I'll go back over your question hold on, I skimmed book two because I had to go to work.

No, you said it seemed like I had faith in the man. And I said no. I have faith in no one. Except my landlord. Sorry for the confusion.

Well, I think it all boils down to that it would be more productive for a MEMBER to answer the questions, instead of answering with another question. Someone who is actually living their religion.

Huh..... where was that one heard before?????

Seriously, I really have not read many outright answers from actual Raelian members and I really don't think anyone is going to get those answers.....

Sorry, sanchera, I just skimmed your paragraph. I was trying to answer a lot of questions several pages back.

I thought I had read somewhere he thought is was Jesus' half-brother???

Well, you know, I was told to read the book, THEN ask questions. So, that's what I'm doing. Apparently, I'm scaring the Raelians off.

It is the case with a lot of religions. We try to find as many answers with the texts that we have.

No, WBS, Claude and Rowan are on a different time zone than myself. And both of them have been answering questions quite eloquently.

Actually, Yel, they've both been on a few times since I asked my questions, and have just glanced over me. In fact, I know Claude saw all my questions, because he answered the easy one, and ignored the others.

Oh sorry Claude, I,ll fix that for you!

The Raelian Bible
One author.
One opinion.
One Charletan
Followed by many clowns Much better thanks for the suggestion

The Christian Bible The Bible contains 66 books, divided among the Old and New Testaments.
There are 39 books in the Old Testament.
There are 27 books in the New Testament.
The Bible was written in three languages: Hebrew, Aramaic, and Koine Greek.
The Bible was written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit by over 40 different authors from all walks of life: shepherds, farmers, tent-makers, physicians, fishermen, priests, philosophers and kings. Despite these differences in occupation and the span of years it took to write it, the Bible is an extremely cohesive and unified book. It was written over a period of some 1,500 years, from around 1450 B.C. (the time of Moses) to about 100 A.D. (following the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ).

I know he has a tight schedule WBS.
Which ones haven't been answered?

I love you too.

Would you like me to repost them?

Also followed by quite a few clowns. And this isn't just me, but some Christians say the same as well.

No, just say the number, WBS, and I'll go through the entire thread. But bear in mind that they are human too. No one knows the answers to everything, even when they wish they can.

(tears up)

Is it just me, or does anyone else get the feeling that we are getting the run-around from these folks?

Wow! that means old Adolf was a Raelian in deed!

Yelekiah have you recieved your Raelian decoder ring yet?
You could be thier poster boy.

More appropriately, Elohim, but when you look at it again, it conflicts, so that wouldn't be the case. Hitler wanted to kill all the Jews, while the Elohim respected the Jews and their genius.
And yes, I have the newest one I got from a box of cereal...

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So they (Israelites) built an enormous rocket-The Tower of Babel?


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As pertains to Sodom and Gomorrah.


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But among the humans who had been dispersed on Earth, a few nursed the desire for vengeance, so they gathered in the towns of Sodom and Gomorrah and, having managed to salvage a few scientific secrets, they prepared an expedition aimed at punishing those who had tried to destroy them. Consequently the creators sent two spies to investigate what was going on.

And there came two angels to Sodom in the evening. Genesis 19:1?.
I thought the humans were scattered?

The Tree of Life would be both literal and metaphorical, actually. "Eating" from the tree to gain immortality. Some are figurative because that was what was in the Bible, and how men in those times wrote, metaphorically...
A serpent was symbolic. So was the tree part in the Tree of Life.

QUOTE(Rainbow Rowan @ Oct 4 2005, 03:23 PM)

They were called the Sons of the Gods.



Who? The exiled Elohim?

*deep breath* Okay, I still haven't received an answer about the apparent differences between his highness taking certain parts of the bible literally, and some parts metaphorically. Even though I asked it here and in the other thread.
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Now. This part said by his highness about the parting of the Red Sea.


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The smoke emitted behind the people of Israel made a curtain, which slowed their pursuers. Then the crossing of the water was made possible by a repulsion beam, which cleared a passageway


This has been explained. It has a scientific explanation that has nothing to do with "repulsion beams". Source (See pg17) This study was published in the Bulletin of the Russian Academy of Sciences.
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Just want to point something out and ask a question at this point. Reading through the book, there are numerous references to the Elohim being afraid of the humans. Why? They certainly have more capability than we did at the time to inflict damage.
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And am I reading correctly that the "prophets" of the bible were aliens?

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Here's a question for anyone. Is this bit true? I've never heard this.


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But the people of Israel had begun adoring metal idols; they had also become cannibals and were completely immoral, much to the disgust of their creators...


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This refers to the human scientists who had accumulated sufficient knowledge to undertake a trip to the creators' planet but were destroyed at Sodom and Gomorrah.....It was those human scientists of Sodom and Gomorrah who said:

I will rise above the cloud banks and will equal myself to the most high. Isaiah 14:14


So, back then, they were going to jump into the Tower of Babel and take off to the stars?

Yes, according to the book, and yes they were. The scattered formed small groups, hence "gathered".

Yes, the Elohim.

They were afraid that eventually man would progress to the point where they would build destructive weapons.

But there are more discrepancies than this. Even within the same chapters.

Yes, but at any given time in history, they've been more advanced than us. Certainly they can protect themselves, or read our minds to see what we're up to, or something. You know, put a stop to trouble before it starts?