Wow, so far this is the best thread I have read on UM. The simple truths in life.
QUOTE(Internature @ Oct 5 2005, 02:53 PM) [snapback]875481[/snapback]
I had an ode a couple of years ago and i found that my experiences were different to how it has been explained by others.
i fell unconscious about 15 minutes after my accident. after that i had a weird but good feeling in myself. i was standing in a street and there was a big crowd of people. i didnt see what they were looking at. things looked brighter than they do usually but not blinding. i felt weightless. when the crowd moved a bit i could see myself on the floor. i had an oxygen mask on and someone was giving me cpri was scared tho. during this time i felt butterflies in my stomach. i dont know how else to explain it. then i saw a paramedic shocking my heart. things went a bit blurry then i saw them doing CPR again then i remember waking up in the hospital with a lot of pain. i remembered everything i saw but i didnt know if it was real or not. the doctor confirmed it all. he told me that my heart stopped and they had to give me CPR and shock my heart twice. i was brought back but arrested again in the ambulance. they had to continue CPR and shock my heart once more.
a thing im confused about is that i didnt see the light in the tunnel. has anyone else ever had an nde before? if so what did you see? Ive thought about this a lot since it happened and am really lost.
some input would be good here.
Internature
Thank you for sharing your experience and the starting this discussion. Your NDE was perfect, and normal. Your soul (you) stayed in the earthbound realm and did not travel further into the spiritual realms. You were not ready to die, and had no reason to go further. This is how it works. Think of distance measured in light. Like this:

After you leave the earthbound realm with the rest of us, you have to go through the darkness before you can get to the light. It's true for all of us. At some point in the spectrum is the point of no return, meaning you remain dead (in the spiritual world), and can't return to your physical body.
QUOTE(justejust @ Oct 6 2005, 07:13 AM) [snapback]876339[/snapback]
that was the first stage, if you haven't been saved you would see the tunnel. dying people often have those two experiences - out of body and then tunnel.
Exactly. Some people don't need to spend time in the darkness for reflection and introspection, so they fly through the darkness towards the light at a high speed resulting in the tunnel.
QUOTE(Soliz @ Oct 6 2005, 07:57 PM) [snapback]877495[/snapback]
i was dead for roughly 14 minutes, and came back with only mild brain damage (although my wife would argue that one, lol) i saw a bright light, but never a tunnel of light like you always here about. i went from being in the hospital room to standing in a forest. it was peaceful, and there were no bugs trying to eat me
some of the stuff that i saw i don't like to talk about. it wasn't bad, it was just personal. I'll just say i saw some dead friends and relatives, and one very cool thing happened. i found out that i had a brother who passed away before i was born. my parents never told me about him, but i asked my mom and she freaked out.
Thanks for sharing.

Like you said, you could see the light as a reminder, as you were traveling away from the earthbound realm into the darkness but eventually towards the light. You saw your dead relatives and even a brother you didn't even know about and later had that verified by your mom. This is proof that this is a real experience, and that we do have a soul that resides in our body, and separates upon death, but death is simply a new beginning into a new reality/consciousness/world. Everyone on earth will have a similar experience when they die.
I met someone who had a similar experience to you. He was a drug dealer, who got jumped, and beat in the head with a crowbar. He said at first it hurt as they were hitting but then the pain stopped and found himself outside his body, watching them beat, and kick his now dead body. He then started traveling through a foggy Forrest. He could hear voices luring him further away from his body. He eventually met his dead grandfather who led told him it was not his time, and that he would have to go back to his body. Lucky, because he is now alive to tell me, to tell you.
To make a long story short, a few years ago, I had planned a date to kill myself, and was going through with the preparations. I was searching the internet about suicide, when I came across near death experiences from people whose life ended by decision. Of course they weren't entirely successful as they are alive today to tell there story. So I started reading about what would happen after I killed myself. The vast majority sounded sort of cool, in that I would be free of my body, and possibly fly. But as I read more I noticed a major difference in the experiences, and that there common elements but also a spectrum of extremes. Some of the experiences were more hellish, and scary while others peaceful and happy. I then started reading other near death experiences involving out of body experiences and found even more extremes. Some people who died (had a NDE because) of accidents, sometimes saw other souls, suicides for example, who were stuck on the earthbound realm, apologizing to the people they hurt as a result of their suicide. Seeking forgiveness before they could travel on towards the light. I found out that comitting suicide would be the biggest mistake I could ever make, and have long term consequences that I had never anticipated before. I stayed up all night studying as much as I could about what happens after people die.
I found a common factor that affected the personal experience of each person. That was spiritual ignorance or lack of. Meaning the more you know about your true existence your being, and also how much you unconditionally love all others. If you know your life's purpose, you would know why it's so important to love unconditionally. Those who don't love, or are more spiritually ignorant don't travel as far through the darkness towards the light as those who were more loving, and in tune with their relationship with God.
It was at that point after reading over dozens of personal near death experiences for hours I realized I wanted to have one of the good happy near death experience when I really die. Another common theme I found was Jesus, and God, so I turned my life over to those guy(s). Jesus is the fastest way to get through the darkness towards the light, and denying him is denying ourself the happiness in the light.
I felt at that point that I pretty much had had my own
inspirational NDE from all that reading, even though I never left my body. It was like sudden enlightenment! I prayed for Jesus/God to come into my heart and change my life for the better, and guide me towards keeping on the path towards the light. Ever since then I have never felt depressed, even after living my whole(remembered) life wanting to die. It was a major transformation, and I honestly immediatly felt like a different person. I was actually happy for once. I know knew that God/Jesus had forgiven me, and that I had something great to look forward to.
If you don't believe anything I say, please just believe this one thing I say. When you die, and you are lost, in the darkness, call out to Jesus to save you, and it will be done.Hopefully you find that out before that time comes, but you can thank me later if it comes to that.
In the end proof of survival after physical death is around if you look for it. This also proves that we are a soul using a physical body (shell), and when death comes, we shed the body and continue on into a new reality. This also proves to me the existence of God, Jesus, and the idea of heaven and hell. I've devoted part of life to spreading this good news to everyone I can.
QUOTE(ComplicatedParadise @ Oct 6 2005, 10:08 PM) [snapback]877617[/snapback]
Wow thats interesting. I have never had this experience. But I did have a friend(well sort of friend because she lost my trust after doing drugs etc.) once have this sort of thing happen to her. She was sitting in her hospital bed once when she was real sick and she said she felt like she was going to sleep, but all the sudden her heart monitor went flat. The doctors came running in, trying to pump her heart, and she said she felt herself lift free from her body, she felt light, and she said all the sudden things went very dark. She some form of heat like fire shooting out from the darkness, it was very hot and she felt herself began to scream, but nothing came out of her mouth. As she starred into the dark she heard a voice calling her name, and heard people screaming at the top of their lungs in pain. After the voice stopped she felt herself slam into her body. She woke up and the doctors were around her, and she saw her parents there too. They were crying, but she said all she could do was lie in shock. To this day it has been 4 months since that experience and she says now she attends church and prays, before she had a rough time, she never went to church and was into drugs, sex etc....but I was really scared for her after she told me this, she has even encouraged me to be more in tune with my religion.
Your friend got a taste of the void/hell (void of light/love). It sounds like it scared her straight. I'm glad you know this about her, and hopefully have decided to be more in tune with your religion. Religion is a step stool, and has what you need.
PS, Damn, you're a hottie

But, you
might be under age, so I'll leave it at that. Don't want to mess around with sexual harassment panda.

For all you people who still don't believe, you owe it to yourself to read this very detailed near death experience of a man who died as an atheist and had his life transformed after his NDE that he is now a full believer in God. This was the final NDE I read before I decided against killing myself. I met him in person, and he told his story to me among others. He (a grown man) even started crying as he described his experiences and torture in hell. It was awkward, but added to the validity, in my mind. I hope it changes your life like it changed mine!
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Saved From Hell Rev. Howard Storm's near-death experience
Before his near-death experience, Rev. Howard Storm, a Professor of Art at Northern Kentucky University, was not a very pleasant man. He was an avowed atheist and was hostile to every form of religion and those who practiced it. He often would use rage to control everyone around him and he didn’t find joy in anything.
Anything that wasn’t seen, touched, or felt, he had no faith in. He knew with certainty that the material world was the full extent of everything that was. He considered all belief systems associated with religion to be fantasies for people to deceive themselves with. Beyond what science said, there was nothing else. On June 1, 1985, at the age of 38, Howard Storm had a near-death experience due to a perforation of the stomach and his life was forever changed.
His near-death experience is one of the most profound, if not the most profound, afterlife experience I have ever documented. His life was so immensely changed after his near-death experience that he resigned as a professor and devoted his time to attending the United Theological Seminary to become a United Church of Christ minister. The following is the account of Pastor Howard Storm's near-death experience, which is an excerpt from his book, My Descent Into Death, reprinted by permission.
http://www.near-death.com/storm.html Rev. Howard Storm Index
Part 1 - An Invitation to Hell From Strange Beings
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/storm01.html Part 2- A Rescue From Hell by Jesus Christ
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/storm02.html Part 3 - The Therapy of Love and Enlightenment
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/storm03.html Part 4 - Learning What Happens After Death
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/storm04.html