He had a choice; death or exile.

He chose... death. He poisoned himself alone.

Who in their right mind would choose that?!

I CAN understand it, but I wouldn't do it. There just isn't a concept that I believe so strongly in it to die for it.

Some things are more important than life.

But you can't enjoy them without life

I feel pity for those of you who have nothing worth fighting for.

Or dying for.


As an old friend of mine once said:
"Give me Liberty, or give me death".

I don't understand this. Could someone please explain.

I would happily die for a number of things.
He chose to die for what he believed in. Exile, to him, was worse than death.

I get it now I thought we were talking about the member socrates.
I feel so stupid.

Its OK wrighty. I thought the same thing when I first saw it.

^Same here, I thought 'what did Socrates do now?'
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"Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! "
Famous words of Patrick Henry.

My first thought was....HATE THREAD



I feel pity for those of you who have nothing worth fighting for.

Or dying for.

You don't have to.

There are people who think they have nothing worth living for. There are people who think they have nothing worth dying for. And there are people who think the opposite. Who is the greater fool?

I chose death, merely because I felt like it.

It had been a long day. I was tired, and there was no beer left in the pantry.

Nuff said.

^

Socrates . . .

Pandy voted death

Nope, no hate thread. Does sound like somethin' I would do though

can sumone brush me up on wut socrates did.

yes...use google or yahoo

exercising your brain is grand

Someone with strong beliefs and a point to make?

Yes, but I can't think of anything important enough to die for.

It's not like you would be able to enjoy what you died for.

Ok for those who don't know....

Socrates had to make the choice between death or exile. He chose death. This makes more sense if you understand what exile meant back in his day... Very similar to feudal Europe, the seperate city states were very closed off. People didn't travel far in their lifetime. Your home, your city, the place you grew up in, meant everything. To be exiled was to never see your home again, to never see the people you love again. (Think Romeo being banished in Romeo and Juliet. Banished = REALLY BAD. A punishment equal to death.)

I chose exile, mostly because I live in an age where exile isn't so horrible. Can I request being exhiled closer to my boyfriend or my mother please?

If I had to choose between dying or exile, I would've chosen death at that point in history.

Being a martyr for a cause at that point in history had more impact than it does these days.

Even today, I would willingly risk my life for the ideals I abide by.

Dude.. I thought we were talking about the member (Like Burnside, and Writey and a few others).
I thought he killed himself

lol, care to recall on Romeo's initial thought of exile in Romeo and Juliet?
In those days, exile was considered worse by a lot of people.

No, not the member

I should have been more specific

SerenitysRiver is right.

The Greeks weren't overly fond of barbarians. Barbarians being anyone who wasn't Greek.
Exile would have meant living amongst barbarians.
Greeks wouldn't have liked that.