Why did you say that as if you were responding to what I said? I never said it violated a law. It's obvious you misread my post.

No, you said that the energy "disappears" and if it isnt transported to another universe, it violates the law.

No, I said that that if it "disappeared" it would violate a law. I said it would make more sense if it went into another part of universe, stellar.

And afterward in another post I say that it may go into another part of the universe.

Once again, you misread my post.

Right there you just said the entire energy disappears.



Right there you're claiming that if it doesnt go to another part of the universe, it violates the law

It doesnt violate the law if it doesnt go to another part of the universe because the only things that disappear are the particles, not the energy.

I use "disappear" notice the quotations, which means I don't believe it literally disappears.
No, I'm saying that it has to go into another part of the Universe, otherwise it would "disappear", which would violate the law, stellar.

I don't actually believe they disappear.
edit: Another time you misunderstand me.

And as I've been saying for a long time now, no it doesnt have to go to another part of the universe, nor does it "disappear" if it doesnt. The energy is simply released by the reaction, and that doesnt violate the law.

But you did misunderstand me, lol. Admit it. And yes, it could go into another part of the Universe as you are finally stating, and derr, it wouldn't violate the law (I say that numerous times)
Let's give stellar a round of applause for the Captain Obvious award!

Ding! Round 1

LOL
All right. Back to the Universe....

You should quit saying I'm misunderstanding you, and admit you were wrong on numerous occasions.



Nope. I'm saying even if it doesnt go into another part of the universe (because it doesnt!), it doesnt violate any law.

But you DO misunderstand me numerous times, admit it, lol. We really need to get back to the subject, if you'd like you can say how you believe the Universe was created. Other than that, feel free to PM me. I'll use small words to help you comprehend.

the meaning of life and the universe is its own metaphor, All of life is a vibration energy its vibrating constantly It moves in waves, these waves vibrate at different speeds and different density or light enery coalesces in a particular way to form matter it seems to look different it seems to be different and feel different but its all the same enery behaving differently, now as enery smushes togehter it becomes very concentrated but the further it moves from this point of concentration it fades and becomes very thin very faint almost not there as IF IT disappeared (not literally ) then it once again comes toghether and the process starts again. Namaste sheri

Nope, I did not misunderstand you one bit. We can all see which one of us tends to misunderstand things... I'm not the one claiming energy seems to disappear in a matter/antimatter reaction of equal mass.

Thank you so much, sheri, about the waves. Have you ever heard of the Universe being described as an ocean before?

It's so obvious to anyone that reads this that you misunderstand me. And, derr, of course you don't make those claims.We need to get back on topic. Not sure why you're perpetuating this...

Ding! Round 2....ends!

Now, how about that universe?

^Thank you.

Derr?

Whats to misunderstand? You claim that the energy seems to "disappear"... if it doesnt go to another part of the universe, it is violating the law. You seem to neglect the fact that the energy is simply released just like in molecular reactions. It doesnt just mysteriously go to some other part of the universe, it is released during the reaction, and therefor it doesnt violate any law.

What are your theories on the creation of the energy and matter and the universe?

Stellar that was a very elementary explanation of how the universe works, its okay to learn and be mistaken if you think you know everything you can become narrow minded i have to remind myself of that to from time to time , Yele I haven't heard of the ocean theory but it makes sense, Namaste sheri

No lack of energy here

Hi Sheri, I think that Yel might have been referring to this:

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...opic=52066&st=0

I hope that you can post what you beleive once you read it

Excellent and I agree whole heartedly with this post, every word of it I'm familiar with alot of these ideas meditation and chakras i beleive we are triune beings with 7 chakra centers, You hit it with meditation I wonder if you knkow anything about transcental meditation very interesting concept. thank you for this link as always a joy to read you and Yele you are brilliant kids those young minds not all restricted by limiting beleifs you are a great inspiration. Namaste sheri

Yes I would love to talk about it. We will go off topic if we talk about it here so I will pm you instead.

And it does just that. SEEM to disappear. Which I've always believed.

What was?



But it doesnt seem to disappear at all, it is released as a result of the reaction.

The above Stellar what school of thought are you coming from , the further energy gets from its point of concentration it appears to disappear (it doesn't really it just thins out to that point than it starts again) do you just want to argue??? Its not that serious,Namaste Sheri

Check the pic out...

That is called dissipation, and that is not what was being talked about.

And no, I dont want to argue, I just dont like people going around pretending they know stuff, teaching other people what they "know" and then when confronted, they keep arguing their point instead of bothering to take the 1 minute it takes to verify.



Lmfao! I like that leg on the fish!

Seeing that once you break down matter to its smallest 'particle' it is shown to be a wavelength of light or a photon, depending on, get this, what you want it to look like...

So I have developed a new theory based on the fact that matter is made from light/energy, and I beleive that instead of 'darkness' being in the void, I wonder if the space was completely filled with 'light'. Now I also beleive that the light was conscious (?God) and was able to fracture and splinter itself into tiny wavelengths/particles that then created the universe as we know it, complete with cosmic consciousness, and interconnectiveness. The whole 'being' is alive and thinking, and thought-duplicating (prayers) which attract energy and similarities (like attracts like)...

Very good theory Rainy, I love it Namaste sheri

And particles are matter. And matter is energy, so the energy "disappears"
But you didn't know that since you don't read physics books.

derr: another word for duh. when someone says something idiotic, and you want to say "duh" in a much more sophisticated way, you should say "derr"

Based on you saying matter disappears, stellar, and me saying matter is energy, I'm right.

Captain Obvious: A very slow-witted individual, usually one who states the most obvious thing.

What Science now calls “Anti-Matter” is just Matter with a reversed polarity of the Proton and Electron. When they come together they eliminate each other in a burst of energy (assuming the mass is unequal). Energy which is just another form of Matter. It did not become Energy and Anti-Energy.

When REAL Anti-Matter comes in contact with Matter (Assuming the same mass on both sides) they eliminate each other with the release of NOTHING. Both Matter and Anti-Matter ceases to exist. Gone Bye Bye.


LMAO, you're WRONG, stellar!
I was right the entire time. I was talking about matter and anti-matter of equal size, you, always misunderstanding me, were talking about matter and antimatter of unequal size. So, you didn't know what I was talking about.

life as you know it is a product of your own perceptions and cognitions.

now on the ongoing debate on physics, here is a short paper for everybody.

Thank you so much for the paper, hyperactive. We can also discuss the Universe metaphysically if anyone wishes.

I said the particles themselves "disappear" because they're annihilated. The energy that formed them was released. You're the one saying no energy is released in a balanced m/am reaction, and you're wrong because of it.



Mind giving me the source? Because I'll give you mine...

http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae159.cfm
http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/prop12apr99_1.htm
http://science.howstuffworks.com/antimatter1.htm

Are you claiming these sites are wrong when they say:

"When antimatter comes into contact with normal matter, these equal but opposite particles collide to produce an explosion emitting pure radiation, which travels out of the point of the explosion at the speed of light. Both particles that created the explosion are completely annihilated, leaving behind other subatomic particles. The explosion that occurs when antimatter and matter interact transfers the entire mass of both objects into energy."

"When it comes to Anti-matter, the annihilation effect converts the particle or particles that are opposite the anti-particle. An example is the electron and positron. They annihilate each other completely and the resultant energy is high end gamma ray radiation"

"The popular belief is that an antimatter particle coming in contact with its matter counterpart yields energy. That's true for electrons and positrons (anti-electrons). They'll produce gamma rays at 511,000 electron volts."

I suppose now you want to argue that positrons dont have a mass equal to that of electrons?

And particles are matter, and matter is energy, so I am correct in saying energy "disappears". You are discussing the old idea with those sites. Real matter and antimatter (recent discovery) of equal mass combining release nothing. I don't think you keep up with the times.
I'll post a link as an edit. You're also wrong in saying that you did not misunderstand me, when it's obvious that you did.

You know full well what I mean. I said the particles disappear, because the energy that composed them and was released cant be classified as particles. The energy, however, was simply released. Its obvious you dont understand the whole reaction, considering that you're claims go against physics and all these reputable sites.

http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archiv...nd-results.html
Check that out. Neutrinos are matter.

If you say particles disappear you should be more straightforward.
edit: I have an idea. Why don't you PM me? Here I want to discuss a metaphysical explanation of the universe as well.

You've got to be kidding me! That isnt even talking about matter and antimatter reactions. Hell, your "quote" isnt even from that site.

No, it discusses neutrinos that make up matter, so the same applies with matter and antimatter in what they are capable of.

http://van.hep.uiuc.edu/van/qa/section/New...30107011436.htm
They both disappear. If the matter disappears, the energy disappears because matter IS energy.

Can we finally get back to the Universe?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter
Neutrinos as matter, etc.
All right, now we can get back to the Universe.