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ShaunZero
I thought you didn't beleive in God? What's your take on this story?
Turtle
QUOTE(ZeroShadow @ Oct 9 2005, 03:12 AM) [snapback]880179[/snapback]

I thought you didn't beleive in God? What's your take on this story?


I don't beleive in a god that is separate. I believe "god" is found in all things.
You seem to believe in a vengful, separate entity.
Theirin lies our differences.
Re-read this section carefully---
"Most of us go through our lives being taught to believe in God. I was brought up in a very strict Roman Catholic household by parents who taught us what they learned from their parents. OK… I did believe, but I was very angry with him because of things that had happened to me in my childhood and life in general. Now I had been given proof (enough for me) that there really is a God. A loving God… not a hell, fire and damnation God. The next words out of my mouth were “Oh, sh**! I screwed this up! There really is a God!” I was mortified at my language and this knowledge. I quickly said “Oh …sorry!” His reply to me was even greater love and a feeling of “My child, calm down, everything is just fine.” I actually felt like His child and it was a very safe and warm place. He has very loving and gentle hands.

With that, placed in front of me to see and feel was a review of my life … in color. I had to see and feel all the good I had done (and the good I didn’t even know I did). I actually could feel the joy each person felt when I touched their life in a loving way. I was getting “caught” doing something right for once in my life. During the good He was telling me “I am so proud of you!” I felt such joy for making Him so proud because I never realized what that felt like because I always felt like I couldn’t do anything right. Reviewing my random acts of kindness gave me the most joy because I was able to feel the difference I made in someone’s life that I hadn’t realized at the time …and I didn’t even know them. I was shown it is not the big things we do in life that make the difference. It’s all the little things we do each day that make the difference. Little acts of kindness mean so much to God. "

I posted this link with you in mind due to our last exchange.
Interesting that you found it.
IMLO, if you believe your god is a judgemental, vengful god....you become judgemental and vengful.
The law of cause and effect.
If you believe god is loving, like I do and this experience shows, then your whole life changes to reflect this.
If God is loving and non-judgemental, then the Law of Cause and effect in you makes you then become loving and non-judgemental.
You believe in A- I have seen B, and I merely point out the way.
The rest is up to you.

Blessings

ShaunZero
I don't belevie in hell..... The only sin that will not be forgiven is sinning against the holy spirit. Even most murderers will be forgiven. And those who aren't forgiven will not be thrown into the pits of hell, but will simply not exist when they die.
Turtle
QUOTE(ZeroShadow @ Oct 9 2005, 12:33 PM) [snapback]880524[/snapback]

I don't belevie in hell.....


Ok, if you don't believe in hell, why do you believe that god judges you
ShaunZero
Because he does. Punishment is to not have a ressurection and to just not exist. It's not really a punishment, more like a lack of reward.
Turtle
QUOTE(ZeroShadow @ Oct 9 2005, 01:13 PM) [snapback]880563[/snapback]

Because he does. Punishment is to not have a ressurection and to just not exist. It's not really a punishment, more like a lack of reward.


Many NDE accounts disagree with you.
As stated in this example, you alone judge your own actions. How your actions affected another, and in it you feel how it affected them. In this regard, you could consider this hell.
It is self-reflection in a loving way.
There is no right or wrong way, but you are made aware of how your actions affected another.
I guess you could consider this judgement, but you are the judge.

Do you believe in re-incarnation?
Sweet Like Acid
wow!
Mr.vort
QUOTE(Turtle @ Oct 9 2005, 11:16 PM) [snapback]881048[/snapback]

Many NDE accounts disagree with you.
As stated in this example, you alone judge your own actions. How your actions affected another, and in it you feel how it affected them. In this regard, you could consider this hell.
It is self-reflection in a loving way.
There is no right or wrong way, but you are made aware of how your actions affected another.
I guess you could consider this judgement, but you are the judge.

Do you believe in re-incarnation?

Yes I do!
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