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you have no basis for this statement

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only way for peace is if NONOE existed...

Nope, there can never be total peace on Earth.

As long as there are nationalists, people with a lot of money, people with a lot of faith in religion and people with die hard and diverse beliefs, there will never be peace.

Nope, there can never be total peace on Earth.

As long as there are nationalists, people with a lot of money, people with a lot of faith in religion and people with die hard and diverse beliefs, there will never be peace.

The report, in language full of think-tank jargon, documented the conclusions of the Special Study Group concerning whether peace was possible, given the economic condition of the world. The SSG decided that peace "would almost certainly not be in the best interest of stable society." War, they argued, was simply too important a part of the world economy, and therefore it was necessary to continue a state of war indefinitely:

"War has provided both ancient and modern societies with a dependable system for stabilizing and controlling national economies. No alternate method of control has yet been tested in a complex modern economy that has shown itself remotely comparable in scope or effectiveness."

The report also pointed out that the authority of the government over the people stemmed from its ability to wage war. Therefore, without war the government might cease to exist:

"'war' is virtually synonymous with nationhood. The elimination of war implies the inevitable elimination of national sovereignty and the traditional nation-state."

The report included a number of recommendations that the government should follow just in case peace did break out. For instance, it suggested that a number of expensive institutions be created that would mimic the economic function of a war, such as: "(a) A comprehensive social-welfare program, directed toward maximum improvement of general conditions of human life. ( A giant open-end space research program, aimed at unreachable targets. © A permanent, ritualized, ultra-elaborate disarmament inspection system, and variant of such a system."

The report also recommended that the government invent "alternate enemies." For instance, it could mobilize the population by scaring them with reports of extraterrestrial threats, massive global environmental pollution, or "an omnipresent, virtually omnipotent international police force." Alternatively, the population could be roused by "socially oriented blood games" done "in the manner of the Spanish Inquisition and the witch trials of other periods."

http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/iron.html

Although war is 'used' as an instrument of national and social policy, the fact that a society is organized for any degree of readiness for war supersedes its political and economic structure. War itself is the basic social system, within which other secondary modes of social organization conflict or conspire. It is the system which has governed most human societies of record, as it is today. War is not, as is widely assumed, primarily an instrument of policy utilized by nations to extend or defend their expressed political values or their economic interests. On the contrary, it is itself the principal basis of organization on which all modern societies are constructed.


THE NONMILITARY FUNCTIONS OF WAR:


Economic Function: War has provided both ancient and modern societies with a dependable system for stabilizing and controlling national economies. No alternate method of control has yet been tested in a complex modern economy that has shown itself remotely comparable in scope or effectiveness.

The "wastefulness" of war production is exercised entirely outside the framework of the economy of supply and demand. As such, it provides the only critically large segment of the total economy that is subject to complete and arbitrary central control.

Substitute institutions proposed for consideration as replacement for economic function of war: (a) A comprehensive social-welfare program, directed toward maximum improvement of general conditions of human life. ( A giant open-end space research program, aimed at unreachable targets. © A permanent, ritualized, ultra-elaborate disarmament inspection system, and variants of such a system.



Political: The permanent possibility of war is the foundation for stable government; it supplies the basis for general acceptance of political authority. It has enabled societies to maintain necessary class distinctions, and it has ensured the subordination of the citizen to the state, by virtue of the residual war powers inherent in the concept of nationhood. No modern political ruling group has successfully controlled its constituency after failing to sustain the continuing credibility of an external threat of war.

Since it is historically axiomatic that the existence of any form of weaponry insures its use, we have used the word 'peace' as virtually synonymous with disarmament. By the same token, 'war' is virtually synonymous with nationhood. The elimination of war implies the inevitable elimination of national sovereignty and the traditional nation-state.

Substitute Institutions: (a) an omnipresent, virtually omnipotent international police force. ( An established and recognized extraterrestrial menace. © Massive global environmental pollution. (d) Fictitious alternate enemies.



Sociological: War, through the medium of military institutions, has uniquely served societies, throughout the course of known history, as an indispensable controller of dangerous social dissidence and destructive antisocial tendencies...the war system has provided the machinery through which the motivational forces governing human behavior have been translated into binding social allegiance. It has thus ensured the degree of social cohesion necessary to the viability of nations.

Substitute Institutions: Control Function: (a) Programs generally derived from the Peace Corps model. ( A modern, sophisticated form of slavery. Motivational function: (a) Intensified environmental pollution. ( New religions or other mythologies. © Socially oriented blood games. (d) Combination forms.



Ecological: War has been the principal evolutionary device for maintaining a satisfactory ecological balance between gross human population and supplies available for its survival. It is unique to the human species.

Substitute Institutions: A comprehensive program of applied eugenics.



Cultural and Scientific: War-orientation has determined the basic standards of value in the creative arts, and has provided the fundamental motivational source of scientific and technological progress.

Among primitive peoples, the war dance is the most important art form. Elsewhere, literature, music, painting, sculpture, and architecture that has won lasting acceptance has invariably dealt with a theme of war, expressly or implicitly, and has expressed the centricity of war to society. The war in question may be national conflict, as in Shakespeare plays, Beethoven's music, or Goya's paintings, or it may be reflected in the form of religious, social, or moral struggle, as in the work of Dante, Rembrandt, and Bach. Art that cannot be classified as war-oriented is usually described as 'sterile', 'decadent,' and so on...It is also instructive to note that the character of a society's culture has borne a close relationship to its war-making potential, in the context of its times. It is no accident that the current 'cultural explosion' in the United States is taking place during an era marked by an unusually rapid advance in weaponry.

Substitute Institutions: Cultural: No replacement institution offered. Scientific: The secondary requirements of the space research, social welfare, and/or eugenics programs.

http://www.simonsays.com/titles/068482390X/rimexcerpt.html

I think he means what to say is no one

And my concusion is that nothing can make man think that peace could happen beacause an argument is techically a war of words but soon more people will agree with that person and more people will disagree with that person and soon there is a war disgust.gif

if you knew what the new world order was about from the elite perspective you would love it, I'm not kidding.

I am not quite sure if I should be offended.

I agree with Mr. Ed. It rarely happens so I thought I would point it out. Mr. Ed, by the way, you are a prime candidate for the new world order. You already blindly trust government, and if you knew what the new world order was about from the elite perspective you would love it, I'm not kidding. It actually is a good idea in theory, but like you said people with a lot of money will ruin it.

Humans can't make peace work, I think we need the second coming of Christ to accomplish that, when all souls who are not worthy are banned from physical earth, and only the good loving evolved souls would be allowed to be on earth. Forget peace, there is to much money in weapon sales to stop. Besides how else could we regulate the worlds population levels, resources are tight as it is.

You might be interested in this, it's called the report from Iron Mountain, and it talks about this very subject.

Supposedly it is a fake, and who knows probably is, but it might not be because of the way the world is going, especially if you know how the shadow government works with classified information. From my personal research into suppressed info, and secret societies, it really doesn't seem that far fetched, but you can make up your own mind. It is interesting reading regardless.

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I'm sorry, but I don't think you can equate free will with the impossibility with World Peace. For example, I have friends who I disagree with very passionately on issues that I would fight for til death... However, if we agree to disagree, things are perfectly fine between us.

I think power-hunger is a stronger point to use to try and argue how world peace is impossible.

I still wouldn't agree. I think world peace is possible. It's just not likely.

*sits back and watches master geek post whore*

I have a tendency to agree. Here's why, not even people in their own families can see eye to eye. Heck, can't even agree to disagree agreeably.

And unfortunately, if people in small groups such as families can't get along...then how do we expect people of differing backgrounds, religions & lifestyles to be accepting of one another.

Also there will always be someone who wants to be in charge or to have more power. You know 'em, you've seen 'em. Heck, you might be one of them. Who knows???

So until the whole world is ready to be subserviant AND those that are in control keep everyone happy, world peace is probably going to be a no-show. Sorry, gang, but that is just the way I see it.

Of course whirled peas is easily done with a bag of frozen peas & a blender!!!

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Again, Amen brother

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Who's Nonoe and why is he so special?

It means you keep posting small comments with out adding much to the discussion.
Also, funnily enough, you just further proved her point.

Nope, there can never be total peace on Earth.

As long as there are nationalists, people with a lot of money, people with a lot of faith in religion and people with die hard and diverse beliefs, there will never be peace.

and people like jennrose

awww...you have a fan jenn