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angrycrustacean
QUOTE(Excel @ Oct 10 2005, 02:45 PM) [snapback]881960[/snapback]

sultanmuratova: Thank you very much! You've been the most help.

Time is both a dimension and a measurement: Time could not be measured if there was not a dimension to be measured.

I've heard there's ten dimensions, or twelve, but... that's not relevant.
The funny part of all of this is I'm actually going to be able to verify if that Lacerta conversation has any merit.
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... Oh my God this is creepy. I can't verify with any authenticity that the human race was created by aliens, but, as it was explained to me, the Lizard People would _like_ to say that they are the original owners of this planet, when, in fact, the Lizard race and the Human race evolved at relatively the same rate, ever-trying to beat each other.

One thing is correct, however:
Question: Can you tell me your name?

Answer: This is difficult, because your human tongue is not able to pronounce it correctly (and a mispronounciation of our names is very offensive for some of my kind). Our language is very different from yours, but my name is—I will try to say it smoother by use of your human letters—something like "Sssshiaassshakkkasskkhhhshhh" with a very very strong pronounciation of the "sh" and "k" sounds.
The woman I spoke to said something quite similar. "Very very strong pronounciation of the "sh" and "k" sounds. And she _did_ get a bit angry at me when I mispronounced it. The thing about the forenames and child names and "do not try to pronounce my name" and asking them to call her a more-human-pronouncable name _is exactly what happened to me_.

Unfortunately, due to a bit of their arrogance in believing that humans are a bit beneath them, they underestimate the fact that you _can_ learn how to pronounce their names correctly in about two and a half minutes, which I did. tongue.gif

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Uh...

Most of the other stuff is _dead wrong_, save for how they look (body type, sexual organs, breast-size) Everything else is wrong, except for the following:

The scale of sound that they can hear
The closable-lid over their ear-holes

(I should note that the pointed-nose thing is ABSOLUTELY WRONG)

Ugh.

My guess is this dude probably talked to one of the more human-racist sects of the Lizard People-- the lady's obviously holding some stuff back, not to mention telling complete lies in some cases.

Thank you, Sultan. I think I may have some idea where to look for an entrance.



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The Skeptic Eric Raven
I can't take it anymore. I confess, I am one of the lizard people. devil.gif
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LyCaN123
QUOTE(Celeryslam @ Oct 9 2005, 08:16 AM) [snapback]880419[/snapback]

have u done the david riske dance before trying to talk to them? if u havent try doing that.

So thats it?just because some stupid scientist doesnt have any proof doesnt mean that they dont exist.there is no 'proof' lol, have some freakin faith man
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SecondHeartbeat
what did it smell like original.gif ?jk i bet it smelt like cheese,cheese is good,sometimes,but not all the time,its good on tacos,cheeze wiz is good too,not all the time though,i like peanut butter too..... anyways did you get a good look of its weapons or did it have any weapons?
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The Skeptic Eric Raven
Was it a teenage mutant turtle?lol Come on people.
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Nadal
QUOTE(Excel @ Oct 9 2005, 04:00 PM) [snapback]880792[/snapback]

Pallidin: Someone very close to me believed that they existed out of our dimension, as well, but I do not believe this to be so.

The ones I speak of aren't bad, not in the least. The one I met had plenty of chance, as well as the proper equipment, to kill me quite easily. They didn't even scratch me.

omg omg omg big lizardz omg omg omg omg omg omg lol lol omg omg omg....I sawz one! omg omg omg omg omg! They purple omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg *dies of heartattack*

On a more serious note....this is ignorant.

QUOTE(Excel @ Oct 10 2005, 07:31 PM) [snapback]882167[/snapback]

"did you get a good look of its weapons or did it have any weapons?"

Long sword.

You sound like your talking about Lizardmen from DnD.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Its just plain crazy Lucy!
SecondHeartbeat
what color was its hair?was it a girl or a boy?
SecondHeartbeat
i like those little DnD guys,they look cool
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The Skeptic Eric Raven
It is ignorant because no such thing exists. Except in someones mind. Schizophrenia sucks.
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SecondHeartbeat
you never answered my other question,what did it smell like? original.gif
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SecondHeartbeat
lol,damn i was hoping it would have smelt lik cheese sad.gif
SecondHeartbeat
did it hurt you at all?
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SecondHeartbeat
i like me some cheese cool.gif if she did hit you should have pulled off the matrix and like,did a flip over and then kick her in the bum and run away,thats what i would do original.gif
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SecondHeartbeat
you should have hit it anyways,it would have been wicked
SecondHeartbeat
i would have hit it,cause i'm cool like that cool.gif
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hazzard
QUOTE(Excel @ Oct 10 2005, 11:46 PM) [snapback]882200[/snapback]

In a place named "Unexplained Mysteries", where people discuss UFOs, aliens, the Elohim, and other such things, I would suspect that the majority of the people here would be of the mind that some unexplained things could really be true.


There are also people here that suspect that they are NOT true,and so naturaly we try to share that with the rest of you.

There is nothing wrong with a healthy imagination,but I think its important to be able to separate science fiction from science fact. original.gif


How to be an Internet Woo-Woo.

http://www.skepticreport.com/funnies/woowoocredo.htm


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indeed
Im going to disagree tongue.gif

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1.) Occam's Razor would agree with me in this circumstance.


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From Wikipedia ... "In its simplest form, Occam's Razor states that one should make no more assumptions than needed. Put into everyday language, it says Given two equally predictive theories, choose the simpler. "

Either there are Lizard men roaming around totaly oblivious to modern science, or they do not exist. I know what what the simpler of the two theory is and its not your side.




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5.) 6.)
You seem to already know that just your word, a few lines of text on a computer screen is not proof of anything.
FrothyDog
1. Occam's razor goes against you here. either it is a fabrication, concious or not, or there are creatures which break all laws of physics, biology, psychology, geology, with no proof whatsoever. The theories are not equal, so you can't even begin to use this.

2. Conspiracy? what you are proposing sounds like conspiracy. the idea that something can break all natural laws and leave no trace, that sounds like nothing was ever there to conspire about.

3. If you can prove it is false, yes, this statement is true. but to "prove" something, it has to be testable. the tests have to be repeatable. that's how science works.

4. n/a

5. Have you considered maybe that person is humoring you? sociopsychology can easily explain a verification of things like this, it's not even abnormal psych.

6. It is possible to feel very strongly about something that is later disproven. Most people felt from the bottom of their hearts that they saw women consorting with demons in the witch trials (pick any set you like). That didn't make it any more true, and lots of innocent people died as a result.

7. whoa. we know a lot about science. i think it is metaphysics you are talking about here, not true science. we don't know a lot about that because it is not testable, there is no evidence, etc.

8. n/a

9. anger is a problem here. it often interferes with rational problem solving. i am neither confirming or denying the existence of your creatures, but relax. experiment a little. try recreating your mindset at the time of contact. see what happens.

10. Quantum physics is not as misunderstood as you believe. it has a lot to do with provable things, it is just more difficult to understand without a strong mathematical background. but we have used quantum physics for a lot of really cool things, like teleportation of photons.

11. Paradigm shift is a change in assumptions. Wikipedia has a more definitive answer about this.

12. If you're not sure about whether this applies to you, think about it. have you approached this matter in a detached and scientific manner? have you examined the evidence, not just your emotions of the experience? did you use the scientific method? do you take any person who says you are wrong and denounce them imediately, without considering their arguement?

13. good. a foggy head can happen for a lot of reasons, but drinking is one of the mose easily avoidable. not saying it does not have its place, but certainly never when you are trying to approach an arguement from a logical perspective.

14. I agree. but always look for the rational before the irrational. original.gif

15. It is quite a fun word though, isn't it?

16. lawsuits about things like this are just plain funny.

17. lol!

18. i haven't seen any other names that might be yours--that i know of! OMG! IT'S A CONSPIRACY! They've taken over your aliases!

19. Hmm... why didn't i think of that?

20. huh? oh well, not by business.

21. I would, however, love for the Mounties to show up on my doorstep to haul me away for stalking strangers who live thousands of miles away...

22. At the same time though, don't discount their arguements. the burden of proof lies on you.

23. Unless you are really Christopher Pike or an Undead Jane Austen (which would be awesome)

24. I have a masters in supercool-ish-ness-ism or something. whatever.

25. but you do! you have tried to place the burden of proof on the nonbeliever!

26. i don't like spam!

27. what makes a valid arguement is not how strongly you believe in something, but how strong the positive evidence is for your case. they laughed at galileo, but not einstein, whose theories were far more unconventional.

28. i know. i know all about it.

29. you want a scientist, but what kind? just like you wouldn't want someone with a doctorate in history removing your appendix, you need to first list the evidence, then find what kind of scientist would be most knowledgeable in that area. after that, a trip to the local college might help. there's usually a professor or ta with a moment to spare.

30. Because you posted it on the forum generally reserved for scientific discussion of this stuff, you opened it up for debate. if it is just contact info, i would try a forum on a different website that doesn't draw so many skeptics to frighten away that kind of conversation.

31. you haven't posted the ideas of other people as facts, but you need to look much harder at the research that opposes your view than you have been doing thus far.

32. i agree. spam is bad. again.

33. It is not a theory, because it has never been tested. it is an idea. it is not even a hypothesis, because you have not compiled data to form a testable question. to get feedback on the idea, speak with a physicist. He can tell you more about what exactly a dimension is, and whether your idea is testable.

34. without verification by evidence, it is not provable, and therefore not a fact. personal or otherwise.

35. Mine has buttons for eyes and his name is frankie... but don't create a false persona which you would feel would better further your point.

36. thank you for not quoting him. he did despise quantum physics though, and sought to disprove it often. this led to many advances in the field, oddly enough. but most of his work dealt with what is closer to conventional physics.

37. no weird conspiracy theories for you! you may not have seen that a&e special about how the aliens invaded hitler's body and created a holocaust that never happened... oh, wait, that program was silenced by the government.

38. you have's done this in the way they are implying. good for you.

39. maybe i'm just in the dark here, but huh?

40. you haven't done this, but don't denounce skeptics! by asking the hard questions, they can help you solidify your arguement . just like einstein did with quantum theory.

41. *frothydog laughs*

please do not take this as a personal attack, an attack on your idea, or anything like that. you saw what you saw, but consider the arguements. it can eather lead to grim realizations about your ideas, or a stronger, more valid point. like i said, if you want to sincerely get in contact, examine the event and try to recreate it. that's the best solution i can offer
Yelekiah
What form did the telepathic information come in? Was it English, pictures?
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Oct 11 2005, 12:24 PM) [snapback]883044[/snapback]

What form did the telepathic information come in? Was it English, pictures?

Cartoons. devil.gif
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The Skeptic Eric Raven
Schizophrenics don't realize they are sick.
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The Skeptic Eric Raven
Well, if your talking about lizard people around a psychologist and he doesn't say "hey thats not normal, you need some help", then he must have got his degree out of a craker jack box.
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The Skeptic Eric Raven
I feel sorry for you. You can't see something is wrong.
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The Skeptic Eric Raven
The mind and the senses are easy things to be fooled.
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The Skeptic Eric Raven
A human being is easily fooled. Thats just the way it is. To a person having one, a halucination can effect all the senses. To them it is totally real.
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The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Excel @ Oct 11 2005, 06:14 PM) [snapback]883461[/snapback]

However, there is no possibility that this was a hallucination. There is no history of Schizophrenia in my family.

Oh, and, if I were fooled, I'd have figured it out by now. Far too many incidents between I and the one I'm trying to find have taken place for this to be a series of hallucinations.

And, I thought about them being hallucinations. And, in that vein, I tried to hallucinate them.

It didn't work.




My mother became schizophrenic at the age of 38. There is no history of it in our family at all. Sometimes it just happens. Make excuses all you want.
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Yelekiah
Wouldn't his psychologist have noticed it???
They're professionals, right?
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Yelekiah
Right, they'd have your best interest in mind.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Excel @ Oct 11 2005, 06:20 PM) [snapback]883477[/snapback]

Let's talk Psychology.

Hold on a second, I'll get the book.

Check back here for further edits.

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"Symptoms of Schizophrenia typically begin between adolescence and early adulthood for males and a few years later for females, and usually as a result of a stressful period (such as beginning college or starting a first full time job). Initial symptoms may include delusions and hallucinations, disorganized behavior and/or speech. As the disorder progresses symptoms such as flattening or inappropriate affect may develop. See Schizophreniform for more information on diagnoses."

If this was Schizophrenia, there were no stressors to cause it. Also, you don't -get better- from this, and even _I_ know I don't have it, as I have the proper Psychological knowledge to recognize it.

Oh, and there's the Psychologist. They would know if I'm Schizophrenic-- I'm not.
Since the online form of the DSM-IV doesn't say this, but I know the book does, I'll say this:

Female Schizophrenia cuts off at 50. It's very, VERY unlikely to get it after you turn 50, and you're more likely to get it around 40.

By the way: I've done reality testing. Other people, some of them that I _trust_, verify that what I've seen is real.

I'm sorry about your mother. How is she?

By the way, while we're on the subject of your family, you have the CUTEST dog I've ever seen. I'd love to get a dog like that. What kind is it? happy.gif



I don't mean to come off as an as*, but growing up with my mother was rough. I just want to make sure if something was wrong with you that it could be treated. Sorry, if I came off bad. My mother is presently living by herself as a recluse. I see her once a year. She accepts no calls. Now, for my beautiful dog, his name is chunky monkey, he is an 3 year old Alaskan Malamute(weighs about 120lbs.). I love my dog. grin2.gif
Yelekiah
Cool. So about that telepathy thing...
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