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sublime_serenity75
In having a general interest in conspiracies, I from time to time run into sites that claim kidnapping rings exist. I'm puzzled when I see "missing" posters of children that have been gone for years. I have a hard time believing that petty criminals and abusers take children and get away with it. Those kinds of people run into legal trouble pretty regularly and more kids should be turning up if they are the culprits(at least in large numbers) Some parents are abusive, I'll grant you that, but I fail to see why kids wouldn't return or be able to completely change their names and appear to drop off the face of the earth from a young age.

Ted Gunderson is a rsearcher on this phenomenon. The jury is still out as far as I'm concerned, but the above mentioned concerns are some things that I find very troubling and hard to answer.

http://educate-yourself.org/tg/childprotec...ch13mar04.shtml

CNN account of the problem in Belgium
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/03/03/belgium.trial/

A different site regarding other accounts.
http://www.thelawparty.com/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm

Any thoughts? hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif
scoobysnack
Yes they exist, and are for the rich and privledged primarily. I spent about two months straight researching this stuff, and it depressed me so much, I had to stop. This is even worse then the 9/11 cover up, because it involves innocent childeren and people in government.

Ever heard of Johnny Gosch? He was kidnapped by the CIA or some group in the American government and put into a homosexual prostitution ring for the rich. He came back to his mom, and told her this. Some even think he may be Jeff Gannon, who worked in the white house press room. Hunter Thompson is a good person to look up on here's some good links:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/archives/hunte...pson/index.html

Look into conspiracy of silence, or the franklin coverup. Sure some people here will say government is not capable of doing bad things, but life is not fair, and when you have the money and the power, you can do what you want.

Here is a good link to a lot of information for you:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/archive_elite_sex_ring.html


You can read this also...

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Do you think he had a connection with former CIA Director William Colby who helped his longtime protegee, John DeCamp, in the Franklin affair?

Yes, I think he did have a connection with Mr. Colby.

He had with him—and this is what convinced me—a complete dossier on every member of my family, even those who were deceased. He had information about their lives that could have never been public.

The key to this whole scandal involving Johnny and the Franklin affair and all of this child kidnapping and molestation is the very scary story of “mind control” experiments conducted by our own government agencies and those of foreign intelligence agencies.

Yes, it is. In my book, I tell the story of Michael Aquino [head of the Satanic cult, the Temple of Set]. You see, when Johnny was taken away, he was taken to a farmhouse and kept there for two weeks. After those two weeks, Johnny was sold for a sum of money. A man they called “the colonel,” came and took Johnny to Colorado. Paul Bonacci identified that man as Col. Michael Aquino.

Aquino was involved in “psy-ops” and “mind war” experimentation for the U.S. government. He had a hand in developing mind control.

Unfortunately they began to experiment on men in the services—this is the concept of “The Manchurian Candidate”—one that could be turned into a killing machine and never remember, programmed by key words and phrases. Then they decided to experiment on prisoners in prisons.

Then along came Michael Aquino, who was already a pedophile. He and others thought that it would be financially beneficial to them, somehow, to begin to experiment on children. That’s when they began taking children.

Imagine the tremendous power of mind control using pornography and drugs.

According to what Paul Bonacci and others have stated, after they used the techniques they did with Paul (using him during the day and then returning them to their homes), the children wouldn’t remember what had happened because of the mind control. Then they decided to take children out of their stable home situations. They now wanted to see if it would work on kids who had stable family lives.

They already knew that it would work with runaways and with kids in controlled situations like Boys Town in Omaha.

That’s right. That’s when, in the early 1980s, there was a rash of kidnappings of young boys across the country. Many were deemed “runaways.” There were only a handful who were taken who actually made the national headlines. Johnny was one of them.

That was in part because you were so persistent.

Two years after Johnny was taken, they came back to this city and took another paperboy named Eugene Mar tin, who is still missing and never found. But Johnny and Paul Bonacci (and a third witness who is too afraid to come forward) have told me that the same people who took Johnny also took Eugene.

John DeCamp has helped bring the photographer, Rusty Nelson, out into the open. He’s the photographer who took the pictures that were part of this pedophile ring’s operations.

Nelson was the photographer who took the pictures of Johnny being molested. He was also the photographer they used in Washington for all the parties that Lawrence King had where prominent people were in attendance.

http://www.americanfreepress.net/RFA_Artic...icates_top.html
The Skeptic Eric Raven
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pallidin
The human slave market, usually for sexual and/or servant purposes is alive and thriving, from what I've heard. And I can offer no idea as to what can be done about it.
startzpe
QUOTE(pallidin @ Oct 9 2005, 06:27 PM) [snapback]880678[/snapback]

The human slave market, usually for sexual and/or servant purposes is alive and thriving, from what I've heard. And I can offer no idea as to what can be done about it.


At this point the thing to do is get informed and inform others.

The pedophocracy series of articles by Dave McGowan is a really quick start, down a dark path.

Here's the link

http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%2...in_Brussels.htm
bboy
QUOTE(startzpe @ Oct 10 2005, 04:59 PM) [snapback]882128[/snapback]

At this point the thing to do is get informed and inform others.

The pedophocracy series of articles by Dave McGowan is a really quick start, down a dark path.

Here's the link

http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%2...in_Brussels.htm



Reading through that makes me sick. One of the worst things someone can do is harm a child... no.gif
sublime_serenity75
One of the more interesting things about this subject is accounts of ritualistic abuse and involvement in Satanism. The BBC is carrying a story about a man whose son was involved in a small group that was known to practice it. One day, his son and another teen disappeared and there appears to be little answers as to what went on. unsure.gif Interesting events irregardless. ph34r.gif
vampirate
This is sick. Why would people do it? angry.gif crying.gif no.gif
Craft
Yes they do exist and according to Interpol, White Female with blue eyes are going for 1 million US. This is the going rate in the Mid East!

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sublime_serenity75
One of the more convincing pieces of evidence that international kidnapping rings exist is what occured in my own home state. Former state legislator John DeCamp was charged with investigating a small S&L whose funds were being pilfered. What he discovered and was told by a few young people was something more sinister. To read more details, click here, here, and here.

Here is a short ditty regarding the whole thing.

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was only in mid-1996, that I finally pieced together, through sources I am not at liberty to disclose, what happened to stop the broadcast of this documentary.

1. 1. At the time the Yorkshire TV team and the Discovery Channel were doing the documentary, they had no idea how high up the case would go into Government, and what major institutions and personalities in this country, would be found to be linked to the Franklin story. Ultimately, the documentary focused on several limited aspects documented in this book, and developed them much more extensively than I ever had the resources or abilities to accomplish.

2. These areas which the documentary focused on, were:

(a) the use and involvement of Boys Town children and personalities in the Franklin Scandal, particularly Peter Citron and Larry King’s relationships to Boys Town;

the linkage of Franklin to some of this country’s top politicians in Washington, and in the US Congress, with particular attention on those who attended parties held by Larry King at his Washington mansion on Embassy Row;

© the impropriety of these politicians and businessmen and compromising of these people by Larry King, through drugs and using children for pedophilia.

3. When the broadcast tape was sent to the United States, Customs officials seized the documentary and held it up as being ‘pornographic material’. Attorneys for Discovery Channel and Yorkshire TV were able to get the documentary released. Then, the lawyers went through the film for months, making this or that change or deletion, so that the documentary ultimately advertised to be shown on the Discovery Channel on May 3, 1994, would survive any claims of libel or slander that any of the individuals identified in the documentary might attempt to bring. The lawyers had cleared the documentary for broadcast.

4. During the several months that the documentary was being prepared and advertised for showing, major legislation impacting the entire future of the Cable TV industry was being debated on Capitol Hill. Legislation, which the industry opposed, was under debate for placing controls on the industry and the contents of what could be shown. Messages were delivered in no uncertain terms from key politicians involved in the Cable TV battle, that if the Conspiracy of Silence were shown on the Discovery Channel as planned, then the industry would probably lose the debate. An agreement was reached: Conspiracy of Silence was pulled, and with no rights for sale or broadcast by any other program; Yorkshire TV would be reimbursed for the costs of production, the Discovery Channel itself would never be linked to the documentary; and copies of Conspiracy of Silence would be destroyed.

Not all copies were destroyed, however, as I and some others received anonymously in the mail a copy of the nearly-finished product.


Michelle
The Alabama girl, Natalie Holloway, that disappeared in Aruba is believed to be a sex slave. There are private investigators that have been on her trail and they've tracked her to Mexico City so far. Dr Phil ( rolleyes.gif I know, but when I saw the preview I couldn't help myslf) is working closely with her Mother to help find her. It almost made me sick when they were telling what they do to these kids. One guy said that the price for such a publicized girl could be up to 3 million.
bboy
QUOTE(Michelle @ Nov 28 2005, 01:42 PM) [snapback]952413[/snapback]

The Alabama girl, Natalie Holloway, that disappeared in Aruba is believed to be a sex slave. There are private investigators that have been on her trail and they've tracked her to Mexico City so far. Dr Phil ( rolleyes.gif I know, but when I saw the preview I couldn't help myslf) is working closely with her Mother to help find her. It almost made me sick when they were telling what they do to these kids. One guy said that the price for such a publicized girl could be up to 3 million.


Where did you hear this?
Michelle
An episode of Dr. Phil...they probably have transcripts on the website. Her mother was a guest along with another couple whose daughter had disappeared from Aruba.
iaapac
Oprah had a show with Ricky Martin about child slavery and had films of children sold into sex slavery. Years ago in Mexico, you could smile at a baby and tell the mother how pretty her baby is. Today it is not wise to do that because of the fear of children being stolen and sold either into sex slavery or for adoptions into the United States, depending on the age of the child.
Michelle
One of the PI's said that Mexico City is the main hub of the slave trade. The kids, and adults, are shipped all over the world to where they didn't know the langauge, had no choice and no one to turn to.

I won't go into the horrible details, but to say, if you don't do what you are told then they will show you an example, in person, of a less desirable troublemaker being "taken care of for the final time".

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sublime_serenity75
By no means am I suggesting that every case of child kid napping is the result of an international cabal. A lot of cases are where the victim is related to the perpetrator who is like the favorite uncle or grandfather or that kind of thing. With that being said, I'm honestly puzzled as to how children can be missing for more than a few years. When a body doesn't show up and immediate family members are exonerated, you then look at strangers, beginning with cons or ex-cons. A lot of those guys have no interest in keeping a child for years, but an international cabal would. One of the links that I provided detailed how when kids gre wolder, they became drug carriers on airplane flights and even worked to procure replacement children themselves.
BigDaddy_GFS
So where's Charles Bronson when you need him????
Is anyone else up for a good lynching???? gunsmilie.gif
sublime_serenity75
QUOTE(BigDaddy_GFS @ Dec 2 2005, 11:05 PM) [snapback]959382[/snapback]

So where's Charles Bronson when you need him????
Is anyone else up for a good lynching???? gunsmilie.gif


LOL-that would be something else now wouldn't it? thumbsup.gif

AuntieBigfoot
I live in a place where kidnappings don't normally occur. If they do then it is HUGE news.

A lot of people think I am crazy or over-protective of my children because I do not let them out of my eyesight.

This is exactly the reason why I don't. It is way too easy to kidnap a small child and just disappear never to be seen again.

I don't want to be the woman on the news saying "But, I thought our neighborhood was safe."

A quiet, safe neighborhood is the perfect target for a kidnapper. It is just so sad no.gif
SoLLiZ
http://www.cremationofcare.com/the_nwo_con...cyofsilence.htm

this site has the discovery channel documentary that was pulled at the last minute. i forget who it was that mentioned it, but anyone who wants to see it can download it here.
saladins follower
in south america there are daily occurances crying.gif
Lord Umbarger
Solliz
That's an awful lot ot download on a slow computor like mine. Could you post a cliff note of it?
XSAS

Int'l child kidnapping rings, Do they exist?... Yes and not just in the less priveledged countries, they exist everywhere. I recover abducted children and adults for a living, I have recoverd Children from South America, the USA (cults mainly), Afghanistan, Mid and far East, UK, South East Asia... damn the list is long.
SoLLiZ
http://www.prisonplanet.com/141003conspiracyofsilence.html

Lord Umbarger, there is a link with an overview of the video and some clips as well. i'm on dial up as well and know how much of a pain it can be to download stuff. i left my comp on allnight to download that lol.

XSAS, couple of questions for you. 1) How does one end up in that line of work? and 2) have you heard any of the stories of slaves being brought across the u.s. border from mexico? I seem to remember reading a National Geographic article about that a couple years back.
sublime_serenity75
QUOTE(SoLLiZ @ Dec 4 2005, 10:44 PM) [snapback]961873[/snapback]

http://www.cremationofcare.com/the_nwo_con...cyofsilence.htm

this site has the discovery channel documentary that was pulled at the last minute. i forget who it was that mentioned it, but anyone who wants to see it can download it here.


Excellent link!. thumbsup.gif I've seen the video myself and the story about it being advertised, though not actually airing, is very true. I live in the state that the video is mostly about and it was a very hush-hush thing here. Those associated with the investigation are castigate as crack-pots or people who are paranoid.
sublime_serenity75
Recent events reminded me of this thread. I don't know if this will ultimately turn out to be true or not, but a recent story is going around a girl who went missing for ten years. I'm certain this happens, what I'm less certain about is whether or not there are larger operations involving this kind of thing.
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