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Turtle

There are many events that do occur that to us that totally changes our outlook on life.
An event so profound, it forces us to look at how we have lived life, and forces us to look at life in a different perspective.
As everyone is aware, I had an NDE, but NDE's are not exclusive to life altering events.
I started this thread, in the hopes that others will share their experiences, and share the gift of new insight with others.
How did it change you?
How do you now view life.
How have you incorporated this new understanding into your life?
What is important to you now?
Turtle
Ok
I will go first grin2.gif
I could not have known my NDE could have had such a profound change in my outlook and how in future years, it changed me, but now, when I look back over the years I can definitely see how my intercourse with my experience impacted upon my life and, upon my way of thinking. It has done so in such a way that I can confidently express my perception of the NDE as an event with a very important, very profound message.

The pertinent points of that message are:

1) We do not die into oblivion, but rather, continue a conscious, post-physical existence. Death, is nothing more than a release into that existence.

2.) Our life as we live it, is a product of causality.
Not just ours, but the causality of all actions before us. Our parents, grandparents, teachers, friends all had an impact on determining our present conditioning and in essence formed a referwence of who we are and what we believe. Know that what we cause/effect today will affect others, many years into the future.

2) At death, we are subjected to a life review. By this mechanism we are able to learn and understand how we impacted upon other's lives by perceiving how they perceived us and our actions. We learn here the importance of 'love', not just for those of our immediate family or social circle, but more importantly, for those abiding in the wider-world; those whose way of life seems very alien to our own. We learn that the differences in the world are superficial and illusory, and that the sense of separateness and isolation are merely veils that aid our learning.

3.) From other accounts given by NDE'rs of the life review, it is purported that there is a Supreme Justice and Moral Law at work in the Universe, but it is neither capricious nor judgemental, for it is a Loving Power, Guide and Teacher, tutoring us all by subjecting us to the consequences of our actions, our thoughts, and how we conducted ourselves towards others. We 'reap what we sow', and we 'sow' through the application of 'freewill'.

4.) We need to accept the differences that are apparent in physical life, because in the next one, we learn that there are no differences, that we are all interconnected.

5.) What I do not accept is the God of religion, any religion. Perhaps, to qualify my opposition to religion's concept of God, I must add that where my opposition lies is not in God, per se, but in how religions present God, and how the dogmas and doctines of religion support spiritual aparthieds; how they maintain fractious ideologies. God does not support religion, he supports the soul in its struggle to return back to God. So, in these terms, I suppose I am conceptualizing God as the Universal Conscious.

6.) Do not look for reward from others here, but look about you for you reward. It is the little things that you do that count. When you expect something from a good deed, it negates what you are truly attempting to accomplish.
Do Good and think through the concept of LOVE and do not look for reward, or recognition. That comes later.
With thanks to Glen Wensley who articulates much better than I.
Darkwind
I had to click other because I have had several LAE.

1. My illness has changed my life for the negative and positive. I'll focus on the positive. I have learned to take things slower. I am more patient and understanding with others. I actually think slower and take more time thinking before I speak. I value learning much more than I did. I have learned people can be very kind.

2. My wife's death and the thing happen surrounding it. I don't fear death. I know we go on in another form. I live for today.

3. My OOBE I learned how to enter other plains of existents. There is much to the Universe than we can ever imagined. Trees are very powerful creatures. I found my faith.

4. I am taking a class in human relations and it is becoming an LAE. I have learned there is much more to Darkwind than I ever thought.

Well I got to go to class.
Super Pancake
Mostly reading and talking with others about stuff. So I say my education and the different people I meet changes me some way. So i'm more accepting of people and much more wiser about issues we fight over.
Tangerine Sheri
LAE Being in this world but not of it ( very cliche but thats how I feel)

I've discovered that beneath all the constructs and dramas is the authentic self it has no meaning other than the meaning I give her in this moment, I live in the moment enjoy the hedouble toothpicks out of life love life and the stuff of it, everything in my life I want I have chosen , this is probably the essence of freedom IMO I love to learn also, no fear of death any effort i put into anything is to keep the mind open don't allow myself to become stuck in some "way" Never worry sleep like a baby!! optimistic see the perfection in everything life is a great gig until it isn't Namaste Sheri
Yelekiah
I put other because people's kindness and reassurance alone have altered my life a great deal. I've become a lot more spiritual just knowing that someone had my back and was there for me.
manapa99
my LAE.. i went to college...
learned about mythology, psycology, and biology...

started questioning the bible... started looking at it more and really opened my eyes to the truth about religion and humanity that's why i am an Atheist and do not believe in any super natural being what so ever
Turtle
Wow!
Thanks for the replies!!!
I can not believe ( I know only a few have polled) how many have put down NO RELIGION after their experiences.
This amazes me.
Please Pm others that you know have had such an experience and let them know about this poll.
I would like to see a few more replies before making determinations..
Thanks all thumbsup.gif
thehappyhusky
My LAE was going to a doctor for stomach pains and being told I was dying ohmy.gif WHUFF!!! Nothing like a kick in the teeth. This came at a time when I had just started to realize exactly how deep of financial trouble we were in. And then we had MORE bills and less income.
I guess the biggest change was the straightening out of my life (Much to my wifes relief). Put simply, In 11 months I lost 60 lbs, quit smoking, dropped my cholesterol by over 400 points and straightened the other "Problems" out that I needed to in order to survive. I'm now (Almost) back to perfect health and living a much more structured and happy life. The financial issue is still a problem but one that is being solved. Albeit slowly thumbsup.gif
Oddly enough the full impact of the situation didn't hit me when the doc spoke the dreaded words. But a month later when My wife was leaving for Vegas on business with company supplied airfare and hotel. The day she left she had all the money we could scrape up in her pocket. $17. I have never felt like such a pathetic loser in my life. That was the day things changed and it has gotten better ever since.
None of this however has had any effect on my beliefs. I was a atheist before all this, and still am. What did change was the amount of affection and appreciation I show my wife. She was the rock that the waves broke against before they could drag me out to sea and the little glint of sunshine I needed to pry my eyes open every morning and start another day. I couldn't ask for more.
Tangerine Sheri
Very beautiful story Husky namasye sheri grin2.gif
Rainbow Rowan
omg Husky I feel all welled up at your story, that was beautiful...crying.gif

I beleive that not only major life altering experiences such as illness, death or news of death, can change us for the better. It is the 'little deaths' where you feel like the whole world is going to tumble down around you, that you suddenly 'awaken' reborn and come away with a greater perspective and love than what you had before. I would even go as far to say that depression is the catalyst for greater growth and you come away from that 'little death' wearing a whole new life around you like a better fitting coat.
theoric
hey tutle,

i told you one experience i had via PM.

But to add on the death issue, consider every parting moment as death. Given the probablistic nature of 'future', everytime you say 'goodbye' it is like death, for example. Viewing things without assumtions and taking things for granted changes you immensely.
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QUOTE(hyperactive @ Oct 14 2005, 03:17 PM) [snapback]887414[/snapback]

hey tutle,

i told you one experience i had via PM.

But to add on the death issue, consider every parting moment as death. Given the probablistic nature of 'future', everytime you say 'goodbye' it is like death, for example. Viewing things without assumtions and taking things for granted changes you immensely.



I believe that to be true also.

You must mourn all things as if they were actual death. Relationships. Endings in jobs, the littlest things should be taken care of properly before one can truly move on.

Pontius Pilate
The birth of my first daughter, the birth of my second daughter and the death of my mother.
GIDEON MAGE
when my now ex-wife had my first son, and I held him, I kind of realized what god must feel like. However, i did not feel i should condemn him to hell if he sinned, like the xian god. more like the loving god of the hebrew scriptures, a care-taker.
Turtle
QUOTE(hyperactive @ Oct 14 2005, 11:17 AM) [snapback]887414[/snapback]

hey tutle,

i told you one experience i had via PM.

But to add on the death issue, consider every parting moment as death. Given the probablistic nature of 'future', everytime you say 'goodbye' it is like death, for example. Viewing things without assumtions and taking things for granted changes you immensely.


I agree.


QUOTE(GIDEON MAGE @ Oct 15 2005, 08:37 AM) [snapback]888795[/snapback]

when my now ex-wife had my first son, and I held him, I kind of realized what god must feel like. However, i did not feel i should condemn him to hell if he sinned, like the xian god. more like the loving god of the hebrew scriptures, a care-taker.


I am suprised more don't consider the birth, especially their first born, as a life altering event.
There are many examples, thanks for offering yours.
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nativechick1989
The Life Altering Events in my life was losing a Loved One. Grief, a sense of loss, lonesome/loneliness, anger and faith . . .
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