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Pink_Fairy
In the Catholic faith, you have many saints. But what is the second commandment, Thou shalt not worship false idols. Now, saints were human beings with human error yet they are prtryaed as being the holiest of the holiest. Now isn't that in violation of the 2nd commandment?
Lamont Cranston
since the whole enchilada is mythology, does it really matter?
different
no because that rule aplies to worship of other gods, since they are under god so it does not count
angrycrustacean
QUOTE(Lamont Cranston @ Oct 14 2005, 03:47 PM) [snapback]888041[/snapback]

since the whole enchilada is mythology, does it really matter?


This isn't really a topic about that.

QUOTE(different @ Oct 14 2005, 03:48 PM) [snapback]888042[/snapback]

no because that rule aplies to worship of other gods, since they are under god so it does not count


It has nothing to do with other gods; We can and often do worship money as an idol. Worshipping does not have to take the form of prayer and church. original.gif

Mythra
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This isn't really a topic about that.

Oh, they made you the topic monitor? I am so honored to be in your presence.
angrycrustacean
QUOTE(Mythra @ Oct 14 2005, 03:58 PM) [snapback]888065[/snapback]

Oh, they made you the topic monitor? I am so honored to be in your presence.


There are plenty of more appropriate threads he could have brought it up in. There's no need to clutter up other topics with things that don't belong.
Tangerine Sheri
I'm with Lamont what is the point of the question??? Because one tied their shoes 9 times out of 10 according to the Catholic "way or didn't ask any questions or denied there seuality or condemed Gays or treated women as lower class citizens does not mean Saint in my book, Saint is as deemed by the Catholic church beieng a "Good " Catholic beyond that it has no meaning Namaste sheri
GIDEON MAGE
Most of the older saints were pagan gods, anyway. saint Bridgett in Ireland, or Dimitra in Greece. Did you know they accidentally cannonized the Buddha?
Ashley-Star*Child
Saints are those that matyred their lives (in most cases) and therefore became saints. Saints have bee mentioned since the OT. When you ask of their help, they pray for you to God, just like when you ask an angel, etc. It's not worship of them it's asking them to pray for you. It's not the same as praying to a golden calf or somthing ridiculous.
GIDEON MAGE
again-,pst of them are pagan gods and legends adapted to the purposes of the catholic church.most probably not real people, just like Jesus, fabricated.
ramster83
QUOTE(GIDEON MAGE @ Oct 15 2005, 12:11 PM) [snapback]888399[/snapback]

again-,pst of them are pagan gods and legends adapted to the purposes of the catholic church.most probably not real people, just like Jesus, fabricated.


Gideon in many conversations you always like to point out that Jesus was fabricated or "not real" besides it not agreeing with your faith what proof do you have of this?

Oh and saint arent worshipped as Gods at all.
Tangerine Sheri
Besides the bible what proof do you have Jesus is nothing more than a metaphor??? Ther are lots of people who don't hink Jesus was real. namaste sheri
GIDEON MAGE
QUOTE(ramster83 @ Oct 14 2005, 11:10 PM) [snapback]888464[/snapback]

Gideon in many conversations you always like to point out that Jesus was fabricated or "not real" besides it not agreeing with your faith what proof do you have of this?

Oh and saint arent worshipped as Gods at all.

Have you ever heard of Theodosius or the Councils of Constantinople and Nicaea? They were real. And the "Saints" were a clever way of adapting (please look up that word before you reply to this) Greek Gods, etc., so they could convert more christians. Jesus was voted to be God at Nicea. Three Bishops disagreed, and were punished by exile from the Roman Empire. The "Trinity" was voted in at Constantinople, when they wrote the new testament. What faith are you speaking of? If you had read any of my earlier posts, you would see that I am an Occultist. I believe that all religions, including yours, come eventually from the same source. I do not accept "faith" as an important criteria. whatevever you believe in, has a basis on the other side. It does not matter to me whether Jesus was real. If you study the period when he supposedly lived, you will find that there were hundreds of "messiahs" at the time, like in the movie "life of Brian". The authors of the n.t. had a wealth of information to pick and choose from, not to mention Mithras, Heracles, Odin, Osiris, Krishna, Adonis, Promethius, and Tammuz. Back to your saints-Bridgett, Patrick, Dimitra, Christopher, and hundreds of others for about the first 1500 years of xianity, were a way of adapting local gods and goddesses. let's not forget Saint Josaphat, a.k.a., Siddharta Gautauma (the Buddha). Xianity is not the only religion to incorporate older legends. Buddhists absorbed many old Hindu legends, claiming that they were previous incarnations of the future Buddha. These "Jataka" stories also traveled west, and many of them became part of Aesop's fables, and the Tales of the Arabian Nights.
zandore
QUOTE(ramster83 @ Oct 14 2005, 11:10 PM) [snapback]888464[/snapback]

Gideon in many conversations you always like to point out that Jesus was fabricated or "not real" besides it not agreeing with your faith what proof do you have of this?

Oh and saint arent worshipped as Gods at all.

As I have pointed out before (with references) there is more evidence of Santa Clause then there is Jesus.
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