I’m not sure if this has been covered before, if so please either delete or merge it.

Here is a painting by Jacopo Del Sellaio (1441-1493). It has also been attributed to Ghirlandaio and to some other artists. The painting is in Florence, in the Museum of Palazzo Vecchio (the Town Hall). Info from: Museum of Palazzo Vecchio.

What do you think this depicts? And if it is an interpretation of a UFO, then they were painting and referring to them back in the 15th century.

Have you any other images of UFO’s in paintings?
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Here is also a medieval tapestry depicting the life of the Virgin Mary.
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this is so interesting! I have no idea what it is. I guess its not only a symbol of something, because a man on a hill is watching it...
and both pictures are connected with Virgin Mary...

very intresting...i have seen these before

Hey Kryso, Where did you find these pictures?

Here are some sites...

Historical artwork and UFOs
Ancient Artwork
Anomalous Artwork

Some more images...

Illustration From
Gulliver's Travels
1732
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The Crucifixion Fresco
Upper Left
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Svetishoveli Cathedral
Mtskheta, Georgia
17th century
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Glorification
of the Eucharist
1600
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The Baptism of Christ
1710
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Here some images that goes back even further…
Images from UFO's In Earth's History (www.crystalinks.com)
These are images from Kimberley, Australia. They are photographs of Australian Aborigene cave paintings, possibly 5,000 years old. Some believe they represent ET beings?
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12,000 year old stone dish found in Nepal clearly shows a disk shaped UFO and a figure resembling a Grey alien.
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This cave painting is c.10,000 BC and is from Val Camonica, Italy.
It appears to depict two beings in protective suits holding strange implements
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6000 BC from Tassili, Sahara Desert, North Africa.
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Sego Canyon, Utah. Estimated up to 5,500 BC.
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I'm not an art expert but I have been told that there is a great deal of symbolism in medieval art. I do know that the black hat shaped object represents something to do with a Roman Catholic Cardinal. The same hat shape is depicted in a painting of the crucifixion. As for the round, or disc shaped objects, it is suspected that these represent Eziekel's wheel. Eziekel's wheel was supposedly a direct manifestation of God descending from the heavens and was used to depict God's presence at various earthly events.

Some people think Eziekel's wheel was a UFO of alien origin, some think it was simply an hallucination, some think it was some sort of "poetic license" used to describe the descent of angels to earth...who knows? I don't think there's really any way to know for sure what these ancient artists were trying to depict. Did they really see an object in the sky or were they just inspired by the book of Eziekel? The artwork is very interesting but certainly can not be used to *prove* the existence of either aliens or angels.

Great thread...

This list could easily (aguably) reach 1000.

One not mentioned yet is The Mona Lisa. Over her right shoulder is a man pointing at an object (not a bird) in the sky.

I don't see anything.

I dont see it.

But maby its me,Im just not trying as hard as you do.

The first one you posted here i think looks alot like a ship.(Noah's Ark?)
Is it a religeous painting?
Who was it painted by?

cant see it either, maybe we need a higher quality image.

Here is a fairly large image of Mona Lisa, could you please circle this man pointing at something and then upload that image to imageshack or something like that and post the link here, cause I dont see no person.

http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/vinci...nde/joconde.jpg

OOOhhh wait....NOW I SEE IT.....wait.......aaahhh.. now its gone again..

Great thread, and good job on the pics!
Perhaps others can look at them and offer more comments. Lilly had a great "explanation" of some of the features.

Lilly is my no.1 girl

DEBUNKER, et al... You need to see a better Mona Lisa image. Something is there. I kid you not. I'm not saying that it's an alien craft; it's something Leonardo depicted that is flying in the sky (again, not a bird or a cloud whisp) and made sure viewers would notice because the man in the background points to it. Go to a library and pull out a book on Leonardo because it will have a closer to actual size colorplates of the painting in it, along with detail colorplates of its (The Mona Lisa) nuances. The digitized images on the internet simply can not capture the detail.

Interesting, yes, and for every medieval painting with a UFO in the background, there are probably 100 with a dragon flying in the background. I guess that means they are all real too.

Well, I'm flattered. I simply try to approach everything in a rational and critical manner. For me it's not enough to just *believe in* something. I need some good, rational reasons as to exactly why I choose to think something is valid.

As for the paintings...they are just that, paintings. These aren't photographs, what is depicted in them is most likely expressions of various aspects of religious faith. We can't just up and ask the artists what they were trying to convey with their paintings. The best we can do is to attempt to understand the culture and belief systems in place during the time the paintings were created. There's no way (that I can see) that a definite answer can be determined.

Kryso,

It took me a while to find, but we looked at some other UFOs in art pics HERE.

Hi there mklsgl, I’m also curious about this anomaly in the Mona Lisa, so I found a bigger pic of her HERE. Does this help in finding the elusive UFO?


I agree with you Lilly. Although if it is an expression of religion I wonder why some are so subtilely painted in the corners etc?

All these are, are 5000 yr old tele-tubbie cave paintings..!

Honestly, you can depict or decither anything you want if you put your imagination to it..

This stuff is like V.D ....Yeh, Von Daniken and the holy grail of "we have been visited by spacemen" bull testicals..! hah hah haaaah

Meh...I wouldent be surprised if most religions were started by aliens. Angels were most likely aliens.

Well, circle this then in the large Mona Lisa image I provided a link for earlier, circle this "flying object" and the person pointing towards it that you earlier stated was in the painting. Even if the images online arent of a high enough resolution you could easily circle the area we are suppose to look at if we decide to head down to the library for a look.

Good question. Perhaps it's a depiction of God's presence always being in the background, unseen by most, but always with humanity? This is just a guess, based upon the beliefs of the time period. It's really going to be impossible to get into the mind sets of the artists who painted these pictures. Frankly, these images are likely to remain a bit of a mystery.

BTW, I don't see anything in the Mona Lisa either. But then, I think I need new glasses...I may be missing it!

Yes, you need to get yourself a pair of them glasses with little greys and flying saucers painted on to them so that you too can see all these things

BTW, is that your doggie in your avatar?

True... Cameras were not around. Paintings were a way of cataloging and capturing images.

He, he, he...those glasses would be fun at a party!

The dog in the pix isn't mine. I liked the pix because it's a cute Golden Retriever. The first dog I ever had that was all my own was my "Lilly", a Golden Retriever. So, now you know the origin of my screen name.

Right now I have two collies; a red and white female, and a black, white and gold male. I just love dogs!

My last cats name was......you guest it.........DEBUNKER.


Naaa....only kidding.

Hey, that's a great name for a kitty...could be your next cat's name?

Yes, I will scan the colorprint detail of the "anomaly" in the Mona Lisa and post it when I get to my office on Tuesday. If it still doesn't show up because of digitalization, I will provide the title of the book. Actually, I'll post the book's title anyway. It's widely available. Any decent library/bookstore will have it.

I used to find this stuff very interesting.

Here is a good site, it tells you which pieces of art or fakes have nothing to do with a possible UFO.
For example that plate posted on page 1.

UFO artwork

It was not the Mona lisa painting.."the Madonna with St Giavano"..I can see how you got comnfused , it is another famous painting......seen here .... Hope i stopped a argument

Great pics here of it

http://xfacts.com/old/

teh first one looks like a cloud, 2nd, cloud also.

Somebody splatted a roach

More paintings...
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~ UFO Coin, 1680 ~
French Medal apparently commemorating
a UFO sighting of a wheel like object in Renaissance France
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In this painting on wood drawer from furniture kept at the Earls D’Oltremond, in Belgium,
Moses is depicted receiving the tablets of the Ten Commandments, with "flaming horns."
Several equally flaming objects are in the sky before him ~ date and artist are unknown.
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Domino or "cigar shaped" craft also appear in ancient art ~ Notabilia Temporum by Angelo de Tummulillis describes a "flaming girder" sighted in February 1465 the sky during the reign of Enrico IV~ a similar renaissance illustration (right) of a UFO sighting in that occurred in Romedetailed in the book "Prodigiorum Liber" by Roman historian Julio Obsequens. The caption translates: "Something like a sort of weapon, or missile, rose with a great noise from the earth and soared into the sky."

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UFO sighting over Hamburg, Germany ~ on November 4, 1697
The objects were described as being "two glowing wheels"
Note: if the round object on the far right is the moon,
the UFOs were either very low or very large.
Notice also the many people pointing
~ this was likely a famous event.

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"La Tebaide" ~ Academy of Florence, painted c.1460-1465 by Paolo Uccello
The close-up (right) shows a reddish, classic saucer shaped UFO near Jesus.
In addition, the tall pine trees in the foreground display the same patterns
as seen in the lenticular clouds of other similar religious UFO paintings.
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Haratonohama, Hitachi, Japan ~ 1803
The book "Ume No Chiri" (Dust of Apricot)
tells us that a "foreign ship and crew" was once
witnessed at Haratonohama (Haratono Seashore)
in Hitachi no Kuni (Ibaragi Prefecture), Japan.
The outer shell was made of iron and glass ~
and strange letters were seen inside the ship.
Notice also four examples of alien heiroglyphs.

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Taken from: Unidentified Flying Objects

How about this...
Extraterrestrial Images on the Saqqara Pyramid
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Is it an urn? Or alien?

These hat shaped patterns aren't UFOs, they are religious icons representing some Roman Catholic Cardinal. I'm not up to par via religious history so I can't remember which one it is! This is why the pattern keeps repeating itself throughout the painting.

As for the various instances where people are seen looking up and pointing at glowing objects in the sky, it is likely that they are making reference to angels or other typical gospel apparitions appearing to shepherds (the man and his dog are a good example of this) to bear witness to the birth of Jesus.

Wheel shaped objects are frequently used to represent the descent of God's messengers to earth, this icon is right out of the book of Eziekel. The wheel within a wheel is described as containing the angels of the Lord and would have been a useful representation for artists to use.

Now, one could argue that Eziekel saw a UFO and that these artists were seeing UFOs. Or, one could argue that Eziekel simply had some type of vision and the artists were using this Biblical event as an icon in their paintings. Bottom line...this doesn't serve to prove the case for UFOs as ET space ships.

Good points!

And when it comes to religion, nothing is straight forward, lol.

An Urn lol.

On that link I gave it gives evidence as to why.

Looks like a "grey" alien. I wonder what the story is behind these heiroglyphs...

That egyptian "grey" has been explained already, no need to wonder about it any more.

Exactly, the same goes for the herioglyphys.



Look here and it tells you...

UFO Artwork

Nice site, thanks!

The "extraterrestrial image" is a vase, but I love the rest of the artwork. Show more if you can.

how about this, aparrately, if you put all of Leonado de vinci's ORIGINAL pictures together in a certain order, it explains the meaning of the life. but it has to be ALL of them, and as you well may know, leanardo was a trickster who loved riddles. Just coz we're on the topic of weird pictures

A comment on the Kimberley rock paintings. There was a television show on it very recently and I was amazed at the distance the helicoptor had to fly to get to different paintings. They flew for like 5 hours between paintings. Those paintings were on the underside of rocky gorges in the river valley. But what I was struck by was how many there were over such vast distances. They were filming for weeks. Such distances surely could not have created the same culture through out hundreds and hundreds of kilometers of remote areas?

There was something else showing itself to the Aboriginals, be it visions, travellers or aliens...

look at the big pic of the mona lisa. if you look left of her chin in a straight line you can kinda see something. i am not sure if this is the right thing though. it is very faint and hard to make out. but if you look close enough you will see. is that the right "man" mklsql

I think the 'Virgin Mary Paintings' may be more important than we think. justejust pointed out that the UFO's seem to be revolved around Virgin Mary. We know that alien abductees have relationships with entities that have been around them their whole life, which may suggest that the UFO's may be connected to the Virgin Mary and that her life may have been shared with - what was then- percieved as angels. This could explain why she gave birth to Jesus without having sex; taking into account female abductees calim to have given birth, but are unable to see their children as they remain on a higher plane with the ET 'angels'. It could be that the Virgin Mary may have been an alien abductee, and that she gave birth to a human hybrid-alien. Perhaps the ET's the Virgin Mary may have been in close contact with (as suggested in the paintings) unleashed Jesus onto our planet to teach us a good way to life and enlightenment. A prophet rather than the son of God. A gift from the 'Angels'. My theory supports the idea some people are proposing that Jesus could of been an alien. Its just a theory. I believe Jesus is a prophet, not the son of god. What do you think?

Thats very true.......right on the spot actually......