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Venomshocker
I found this article quite interesting and it sheds light on a subject, most christians and people in general know very little about. ie. The formation of the bible and church and its back ground philosphies.

http://reluctant-messenger.com/reincarnation-pope.htm

I found this particularly interesting.
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There was a logical reason why the Emperor was opposed to the concept that all of mankind originally came from God and was returing to God via the cycle of birth and death. Justinian had been convinced by high ranking cardinals that it was not in the interest of the empire to allow Origen's writings to continue to be copied and distributed. A powerful group of Cardinal’s and Bishop’s explained that if every soul had once pre-existed with God, then Christ wasn’t anything special to have come from God. These Cardinals convinced the Emperor that if people realized they were the children of God they might begin to believe they no longer needed an Emperor, or to pay taxes, or to obey the Holy Church. But since they reasoned that only Christ had come from God but God made brand new souls at the time of conception and only the Holy Church could bring these souls to God. Without the protection of the Empire or the guidance of the church, all people would be doomed to be forever cut off from God in Hell. This doctrine was very acceptable to the Emperor. Once Justinian understood the political danger inherent in Origen’s teachings, the rest was simply an Emperor doing what was in his best interest.


Yelekiah
I heard a similar version with Justinian except it had to do with his mistress (she didn't want to come back as something negative). I think it's all really silly to change a belief in a religion just for the interests of a single human being.
It's strange how not too many Christians know about it either. Some even look down on those who do believe in reincarnation, while disregarding history.
Venomshocker
Its interesting to study early church history because you begin to relize that the bible, the catholic church, and by extension all protestant church doctrines, beliefs and ideologies were by and large manipulated to suite the needs of some very powerful greedy men/women.

These fundamental beliefs and their manipulation changed the outlook and perspectives on life drastically. Western civilization by and large has some of its core beliefs built up on manipulated information, which was used to control people through fear.

Eternal Light
QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Oct 17 2005, 06:01 PM) [snapback]891044[/snapback]


....It's strange how not too many Christians know about it either.....



Blind faith! More see than comprehend.
Tangerine Sheri
QUOTE(Venomshocker @ Oct 17 2005, 10:15 AM) [snapback]891067[/snapback]

Its interesting to study early church history because you begin to relize that the bible, the catholic church, and by extension all protestant church doctrines, beliefs and ideologies were by and large manipulated to suite the needs of some very powerful greedy men/women.

These fundamental beliefs and their manipulation changed the outlook and perspectives on life drastically. Western civilization by and large has some of its core beliefs built up on manipulated information, which was used to control people through fear.



Venom I agree whole heartedly with you, I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees this I think Christainaity permeates alot of western culture and its major systems. Namaste Sheri
GIDEON MAGE
their history is filled with examples of one man making a decision for many.
StalingradK
Wow... so much progress... We are no longer using pears and racks to torture people, but confining them to a 8x8 foot jail cell!
skeksis
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Venom I agree whole heartedly with you, I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees this I think Christainaity permeates alot of western culture and its major systems. Namaste Sheri



grin2.gif i agree too tongue.gif
Darkwind
That is interesting, thanks Venomshocker. Very enlightening. Amazing what get lost in the babble.
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