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vergel the shadower
[b]My geograthy teacher has told me about a cavern deep under the surface of loch ness that can let the monster that dwells in the loch show up at other places in the world their has been many sightings of a strange sea monster in places other than Scotland some even beleive that the sea monster in Jalpan is the loch ness monster

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Essan
Hi Vergel wavey.gif

Interesting that your Geogrpahy teacher should mention this. It is a commonly held belief that caves do (or could) lead from Loch Ness to the sea. It's mentioned in a few books on the subject. However, there is in fact no evidence whatsoever to support this belief, and in fact the geology of the region precludes such a possibility.

Notwithstanding which, the scarcity of sightings, suggetsing no large breeding population of large creatures in the loch, does suggest that if a 'monster' exists it could be a sea creature which visits the loch to breed. Perhaps swimming up the River Ness at night and/or at limes of flood?

RisenPrism
i think that perhaps there was once something in the loch, but now is dead. does anyone realize that a breeding population of these things would have to be in the thousands? i dont think so many could go without being seen.
Adren
I have to agre with falseprophet15. Whatever was ther is dead. Theres no way that Nesseys imortal.
darkknight
maybe...maybe not...ever heard of long living animals like turtles? possible in deep cavern!
and oh...welcome to um vergel the shadower thumbsup.gif
and good topic to start off thumbsup.gif
Funi
QUOTE(falseprophet15 @ Oct 19 2005, 08:05 PM) [snapback]893829[/snapback]

i think that perhaps there was once something in the loch, but now is dead. does anyone realize that a breeding population of these things would have to be in the thousands? i dont think so many could go without being seen.


There's not a single clear photo. Just models and waves grin2.gif
Original
QUOTE(falseprophet15 @ Oct 19 2005, 01:05 PM) [snapback]893829[/snapback]

i think that perhaps there was once something in the loch, but now is dead. does anyone realize that a breeding population of these things would have to be in the thousands? i dont think so many could go without being seen.


I agree, and also for those same reasons I feel that Lake Monsters in general are an impossibility. I would love to be proven wrong though...
angrycrustacean
I think Nessie is down there, just not in the romantic form we all know it as. It's not a plesiosaur, mollusk, or eel. I'm sure it's just a really big fish.

The reason I think this is that even if it was a really big fish (Say 6 feet, it's most likely smaller than that), a breeding population could still survive with minimal detection, especially because large fish generally live for long periods of time. In a way, I never want to find out what's in there. Even if my theory is correct, it'd still be kind of a let down.
Funi
QUOTE(Original @ Oct 19 2005, 09:00 PM) [snapback]893928[/snapback]

I agree, and also for those same reasons I feel that Lake Monsters in general are an impossibility. I would love to be proven wrong though...


Well... people want to have Lake Monsters..that's why so many of them have been "seen"
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QUOTE(Funi @ Oct 19 2005, 02:01 PM) [snapback]893930[/snapback]

Well... people want to have Lake Monsters..that's why so many of them have been "seen"


I once saw a study done on the Loch, where researchers posed as tourists. They looked out on a pole that was sticking out of the water and asked other tourists if they saw it. Later other researchers asked the tourists what they saw, and almost all of them exaggerated the pole into a long necked creature with surprisingly Nessie like features. When some were asked to draw what they saw they would draw what looked like the classic image of Nessie. It was concluded that memory is not as fool proof as it seems, and sometimes common perceptions, such as what Nessie looks like, influenced memories. People want to see Nessie so badly that they will see it inside of a stick, or anything that can break the surface of the Loch.
vergel the shadower
QUOTE(angrycrustacean @ Oct 19 2005, 07:01 PM) [snapback]893929[/snapback]

I think Nessie is down there, just not in the romantic form we all know it as. It's not a plesiosaur, mollusk, or eel. I'm sure it's just a really big fish.

The reason I think this is that even if it was a really big fish (Say 6 feet, it's most likely smaller than that), a breeding population could still survive with minimal detection, especially because large fish generally live for long periods of time. In a way, I never want to find out what's in there. Even if my theory is correct, it'd still be kind of a let down.

I agree with some of your theory's but who is to say that if the monster did breed it would make a lot what if it only had 4-5 babies unsure.gif
scuzzlebutt
QUOTE(vergel the shadower @ Oct 19 2005, 02:31 PM) [snapback]894005[/snapback]

I agree with some of your theory's but who is to say that if the monster did breed it would make a lot what if it only had 4-5 babies unsure.gif

I think you would need more diversity in the gene pool for something to survive more than a few generations.
Creepy_Steve
I actually heard about this in my geography class.
Loch ness is supposed to have many onderground and under water caves an caverns that lead to nearby lochs and even to the sea.
So that would explain why the creature isn't seen much.
This also explains how a big creature like that could survive in Loch ness, it gets it food somewhere else.
Loch Ness is just a place the creature relaxes or something, not where it actually stays all the time.
Koume
Heh, I just find it hard to believe that one monster routinely travels through caves and appears all over the world. =P
psycrow
yes.gif I beleive the hidden caves that lead out to sea, and I beleive their is some kind of sea creature that hasnt been discovered yet. Who knows about the things lifespan? It could last 100's of years and only give birth once... who knows

I beleive it could be the same thing that makes the unidentified deep sea sounds, and the mysterious creature beleived to be a Megalodon.... thumbsup.gif
hazzard
If you ask the locals Loch Ness is spelled TOURIST TRAP grin2.gif .

Anyway here is a live came,underwater camera online soon,happy hunting.

http://www.lochness.co.uk/livecam/
vergel the shadower
QUOTE(hazzard @ Oct 20 2005, 09:13 AM) [snapback]894927[/snapback]

If you ask the locals Loch Ness is spelled TOURIST TRAP grin2.gif .

Anyway here is a live came,underwater camera online soon,happy hunting.

http://www.lochness.co.uk/livecam/

BLY r u8 ther gunsmilie.gif
BLY
hey vergel i got the message grin2.gif
vergel the shadower
QUOTE(BLY @ Oct 23 2005, 12:24 PM) [snapback]899409[/snapback]

hey vergel i got the message grin2.gif

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XNavyGunner
I've got mixed feelings on this. The logical part says there's nothing there or it's mistaken identity. But the romantic wants to believe it's an unknown creature.
vergel the shadower
QUOTE(vergel the shadower @ Oct 23 2005, 12:26 PM) [snapback]899411[/snapback]

do u like ma topic alien.gif

so feel free to explore the site and comment on what u want
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BLY
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BLY
yeah i feel the same way about the Loch Ness Monster i think that there is something out there but we just havent caught a good clip grin2.gif
Richdog
Can people please not try to double post, and instead please use the edit button to edit their previous posts to add information to it if no-one has replied since you last posted.

Cheers,

Rich.
signman
consider the sizes of the oceans around the world and think about all of the undiscovered species. Anything is possible
ShaolinShidoshi
alien.gif Hi Shadower
I remember hearing about the same thing but I was told by my mother who heard it from her father's father so i guess that would make him my great great grandfather on my mother's side. Anyways I believe that there is something in the Loch and that it seems to come and go when ever it likes so the possibility for an under sea cavern is possible.

ShaolinShidoshi
Dante The Hunter
QUOTE(vergel the shadower @ Oct 19 2005, 03:40 PM) [snapback]893695[/snapback]

[b]My geograthy teacher has told me about a cavern deep under the surface of loch ness that can let the monster that dwells in the loch show up at other places in the world their has been many sightings of a strange sea monster in places other than Scotland some even beleive that the sea monster in Jalpan is the loch ness monster

Plz read this and if you dont beeive me plz give me a break it is my first topic thumbsup.gif

i think that this is a really good topic and a good made one to and also very interesting thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif
werewolf_child
QUOTE(vergel the shadower @ Oct 19 2005, 09:40 AM) [snapback]893695[/snapback]

[b]My geograthy teacher has told me about a cavern deep under the surface of loch ness that can let the monster that dwells in the loch show up at other places in the world their has been many sightings of a strange sea monster in places other than Scotland some even beleive that the sea monster in Jalpan is the loch ness monster

Plz read this and if you dont beeive me plz give me a break it is my first topic thumbsup.gif


I heard from a television show that Nessie was supposed to be a sort of magical creature.So maybe that is why it has lived so long.
fantazum
QUOTE(vergel the shadower @ Oct 19 2005, 03:40 PM) [snapback]893695[/snapback]

[b]My geograthy teacher has told me about a cavern deep under the surface of loch ness that can let the monster that dwells in the loch show up at other places in the world their has been many sightings of a strange sea monster in places other than Scotland some even beleive that the sea monster in Jalpan is the loch ness monster

Plz read this and if you dont beeive me plz give me a break it is my first topic thumbsup.gif


well you may be right as there have been stories about an underground tunnel leading from the loch to the sea and that what people have been seeing have been seals or even small whales.
hazzard
QUOTE(vergel the shadower @ Oct 23 2005, 12:14 PM) [snapback]899405[/snapback]

BLY r u8 ther


Any chance you can write like normal people.
If anything it might improve your credibility.
fullmooneyes
Who said that the monsters was there full time? There is evidence for them being there and as for the caves there is edwards deep.
vergel the shadower
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arkland
QUOTE(falseprophet15 @ Oct 19 2005, 09:05 AM) [snapback]893829[/snapback]

i think that perhaps there was once something in the loch, but now is dead. does anyone realize that a breeding population of these things would have to be in the thousands? i dont think so many could go without being seen.

they found a new species of crab a couple days ago. nessy is probly really stealth and ninja like me ph34r.gif and its not like people are out side looking for nessy in the middle of the night
he or she could come up for air then if it needs air.
kourui
an expedition will do... original.gif
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