Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: What if aliens were to make contact tommorow?
Unexplained Mysteries Discussion Forums > Unexplained Mysteries > Spirituality, Religion and Beliefs
Pages: 1, 2
I AAAM
[quote post='912004' date='Nov 2 2005, 02:31 AM' name='Stellar']

What do you mean?

blush.gif blink.gif laugh.gif w00t.gif laugh.gif alien.gif tongue.gif unsure.gif rofl.gif geek.gif blink.gif tongue.gif thumbsup.gif
Stellar
QUOTE

Hey nice work there, where did you get that as being a statement of mine?


Did I say its a statement of yours?

QUOTE

If one goes back up the page and checks what I quoted this is not there I wonder why?


Because you didnt say it. Did I ever claim you did?

QUOTE

It looks to me like you are trying to make it look like I am making statements that I have not, so since you have dobed me in to the moderators for being a sore looser, I will now do the same for you.


Think whatever you want and tell the mods whatever you want, I couldnt care less what you think. I didnt do anything wrong, nor am I wrong about anything here.

QUOTE

It would only have taken an apology on your part to admit you were wrong but obviously pride stands in the way, so have a nice day!


I dont appologise for what I didnt do wrong.
Ashley-Star*Child
QUOTE
QUOTE

This preconcieved notion that 'aliens' are the hope for athiesm really is getting old




What do you mean?


I have heard such absurd things from so-called scientists on Discovery Science as alien life being the 'missing link' to evolution which in turn favors atheism. If there indeed is any life out there, there seems to be a preconcieved notion that we know what to expect from it. People should be honest and admit they don't. Life can form in a multitude of ways as evident from the diversity of life on our own planet. Whose to say the 'rules of life' are the same throughout the entire universe.
the14u2cee
QUOTE(Ashley-Star*Child @ Nov 2 2005, 06:20 PM) [snapback]913986[/snapback]

What do you mean?

I have heard such absurd things from so-called scientists on Discovery Science as alien life being the 'missing link' to evolution which in turn favors atheism. If there indeed is any life out there, there seems to be a preconcieved notion that we know what to expect from it. People should be honest and admit they don't. Life can form in a multitude of ways as evident from the diversity of life on our own planet. Whose to say the 'rules of life' are the same throughout the entire universe.

I understand what you are saying, i think those scientists are implying that the microorganisms or bacteria( POLYCYCLIC HYDROCARBONS) that they found on ALH84001(the meteorite they found from mars) might be the Beginning of life as we know it, but.....I think, myself that it was contaminated from the area they found it in.

Of course we know what ashley is starting to believe........Hmm (NEPHILIM) alien.gif
Ashley-Star*Child
I think everyone knows what my beliefs are tongue.gif but no, it's not in any way related to Raelians!

Anyway, about the meteorite, I think you may be right there. I've seen it and I can't say I'm all that convinced it didn't come from our own soil.
TheEssenceofExcellence
QUOTE(Stellar @ Oct 27 2005, 05:08 PM) [snapback]905884[/snapback]

No... the point is its not just *another* religion, its the *same* religion as one on the Earth.

Say you were christian and aliens came here talking about Allah and Mohammed, or you're an atheist and the aliens believe in Christ and have a version of the bible...


The fact is: there aren't very many differences in the foundations of each religion, so what ever they believed, it would have tons of stuff in common with many of the different religions here on Earth. So them practicing Buddaism but calling it a different name wouldn't really mean it was the true religion or have any real impact on anybody.

But hypothetically, if they were practicing Christianity, their Bible was pretty much identical to ours, and Jesus came unto them and was crucified the same way he was here to save their sins (just taking their form and not looking like a human) I could accept that without question. If there are aliens out there it wouldn't surprise me in the least for that to be the case.

If they were practicing a different religion from Christianity that also existed here on Earth, like I said before it wouldn't really change much. No other religion has as much proof of its' trueness as Christianity/and or Judaism does anyway and just because aliens were practicing something else wouldn't make that big of an argument otherwise.

And like I said before, if it was just them giving their own religious view (even if it was the same as others here on Earth) I wouldn't mind it ((and it wouldn't really affect me). I would just be cautious of their motives. And if they wanted to impose it, I'd fight. (unless it was the same as mine, then i'd support their motives to impose it, but inform them that they can't force people into the light, they have to walk into it themselves)

Stellar
QUOTE

The fact is: there aren't very many differences in the foundations of each religion, so what ever they believed, it would have tons of stuff in common with many of the different religions here on Earth. So them practicing Buddaism but calling it a different name wouldn't really mean it was the true religion or have any real impact on anybody.


What about ancient egyptian? Theres plenty of differences between it and modern religions.

And I'm not talking about them having a similar religion, I'm talking about having one thats exactly the same.

QUOTE

No other religion has as much proof of its' trueness as Christianity/and or Judaism does anyway and just because aliens were practicing something else wouldn't make that big of an argument otherwise.


No? The fact that an alien race, from so many lightyears away, was practicing the exact same religion as one on Earth wouldnt make you think "Hey, how can that be? Something great must have influenced them!"?

QUOTE

And if they wanted to impose it, I'd fight. (unless it was the same as mine, then i'd support their motives to impose it


Why would you do such a thing?
Byuu94
I don't think anything would happen. The Christians, Jews, and Muslims would just call the heathens, and go on doing what they always would do. The Buddhists and Pagans would just say that they are on a different spiritual path to the same pinnacle. the Hindus would try to figure out where they would fit in their caste system.
Overall, I don't think the world would fall apart, most people would continue the current policy of religious ignorance and passive intolerance.
TheEssenceofExcellence
QUOTE(Stellar @ Nov 3 2005, 08:59 AM) [snapback]914465[/snapback]

What about ancient egyptian? Theres plenty of differences between it and modern religions.

And I'm not talking about them having a similar religion, I'm talking about having one thats exactly the same.
No? The fact that an alien race, from so many lightyears away, was practicing the exact same religion as one on Earth wouldnt make you think "Hey, how can that be? Something great must have influenced them!"?
Why would you do such a thing?


You better read everything I write and not attempt to put words in my mouth!!!

After that I said I would tell them they COULDN'T do that.

Why would I support the idea of them wanting to impose Christianity? Because I believe it's the way to salvation, I believe it's the way to eternal life......so of course I would welcome the idea of trying to get everyone else saved. But I would never try to forcefully impose that on anyone, and I wouldn't support an alien race doing so either.

Stellar please don't try to make it look like I said or think something that I don't.
Stellar
QUOTE

After that I said I would tell them they COULDN'T do that.


You said you'd support them imposing your beliefs.
TheEssenceofExcellence
QUOTE(Stellar @ Nov 3 2005, 11:50 PM) [snapback]915625[/snapback]

You said you'd support them imposing your beliefs.


I said I would support the idea of them imposing my beliefs. As in I would support them wanting to lead everyone to Jesus. But I wouldn't want them to actually impose it by forcing people to believe that. There's a difference.
Stellar
QUOTE

I said I would support the idea of them imposing my beliefs. As in I would support them wanting to lead everyone to Jesus. But I wouldn't want them to actually impose it by forcing people to believe that. There's a difference.


Choose your words more carefully.

Impose:

# To establish or apply as compulsory; levy: impose a tax.
# To apply or make prevail by or as if by authority: impose a peace settlement. See Synonyms at dictate.
# To obtrude or force (oneself, for example) on another or others.
TheEssenceofExcellence
QUOTE(Stellar @ Nov 4 2005, 12:27 AM) [snapback]915656[/snapback]

Choose your words more carefully.

Impose:

# To establish or apply as compulsory; levy: impose a tax.
# To apply or make prevail by or as if by authority: impose a peace settlement. See Synonyms at dictate.
# To obtrude or force (oneself, for example) on another or others.


again, just the idea of making everyone else a believer; not actually forcing them to be one. Technically it's every Christian's duty to spread God's word, which is why the idea of getting everyone to be Christian is a favorable one for Christians. But like I said before, you can't force anyone into the light, they have to walk into it themselves.
I AAAM
QUOTE(migrane @ Nov 5 2005, 02:18 AM) [snapback]916122[/snapback]

i would go to the aliens make them think i am a expert on earth make them trust me and hijakc their ship so i will control the world

hhehehehehehehehahahahahhahahahahahhahhhrehrhrhrhhrhr


Good comment! thumbsup.gif It runs well with the rationality of the thread. blink.gif
Nadia Blue
QUOTE(Mrs. Doubtfire @ Nov 4 2005, 06:10 PM) [snapback]916697[/snapback]

Good comment! thumbsup.gif It runs well with the rationality of the thread. blink.gif


Hah! For once, I agree with you. Deeeearrrrrr. grin2.gif
I AAAM
QUOTE(WannabeSkeptic @ Nov 5 2005, 12:12 PM) [snapback]916918[/snapback]

Hah! For once, I agree with you. Deeeearrrrrr. grin2.gif


One in a million ain't bad! yes.gif Now back on topic please deeeeear! w00t.gif
MichaelS
Hypothetically, if ET's were discovered to have similar religious beliefs and practices as say- the Roman Catholics, it would indicate some connection between them and the rise of the Catholic faith.

Personally, I would be surprised.
Nadia Blue
Actually, after reading through 5 pages of you, dear, trying to argue that a hypothetical situation is wrong, huh.gif I kind of forgot the point of the thread.
I AAAM
QUOTE(Stewey1972 @ Nov 5 2005, 12:27 PM) [snapback]916930[/snapback]

Hypothetically, if ET's were discovered to have similar religious beliefs and practices as say- the Roman Catholics, it would indicate some connection between them and the rise of the Catholic faith.

Personally, I would be surprised.


This is a gross understatement Stewey, come over and add your input to my God's name thread. Nice to hear from you! thumbsup.gif
MichaelS
At least I understood what she was asking. She wasn't saying that religions were hypothetical. Rather she was asking how people would react if they were to find out that ET's practices a religion similar to theirs.

I have called "God" many things... some not very nice- so you may not want my input. innocent.gif
Stellar
QUOTE

At least I understood what she was asking. She wasn't saying that religions were hypothetical. Rather she was asking how people would react if they were to find out that ET's practices a religion similar to theirs.


ohmy.gif
MichaelS
Ummm... Sorry?

Regardless of gender, it is a good question to ask.
Nadia Blue
Nevermind.
I AAAM
QUOTE(WannabeSkeptic @ Nov 5 2005, 12:31 PM) [snapback]916936[/snapback]

Actually, after reading through 5 pages of you, dear, trying to argue that a hypothetical situation is wrong, huh.gif I kind of forgot the point of the thread.


What Thread? blink.gif
Nadia Blue
Huh? huh.gif
I AAAM
QUOTE(Stewey1972 @ Nov 5 2005, 12:36 PM) [snapback]916940[/snapback]

At least I understood what she was asking. She wasn't saying that religions were hypothetical. Rather she was asking how people would react if they were to find out that ET's practices a religion similar to theirs.

I have called "God" many things... some not very nice- so you may not want my input. innocent.gif


Good Gaud!!!! wacko.gif
Nadia Blue
What?
I AAAM
QUOTE(WannabeSkeptic @ Nov 5 2005, 01:40 PM) [snapback]917027[/snapback]

What?


Oooooooh! Don't mind me deeeeeear! I am just rambling again! I think I was talking about senile dementia. Was I?
Nadia Blue
I thought you said something about puppies. hmm.gif
I AAAM
QUOTE(WannabeSkeptic @ Nov 5 2005, 01:50 PM) [snapback]917037[/snapback]

I thought you said something about puppies. hmm.gif



Oooooooooh yes nooooow I remember deeeeear! I was talking abooooout two dogs on the other thread deeeeeear! Nice post that have you read it? (Why are priest's special)? yes.gif
Nadia Blue
When did the issue of priests get into this thread? blink.gif And yeah, I saw it. wink2.gif
I AAAM
QUOTE(WannabeSkeptic @ Nov 5 2005, 03:01 PM) [snapback]917130[/snapback]

When did the issue of priests get into this thread? blink.gif And yeah, I saw it. wink2.gif


Now lets show some respect for Stellar and get back on topic please whatever it was. yes.gif
Milo
I suppose most people would react like they did in the sci-fi series V. Or, Earth, Final conflict. Some would adore them, others would fear them. The average person (like I think I am...) might wait and see what their intentions were... (and keep my car filled, and some extra food stuffs, and maybe an extra box of ammo, Hey, this is America!)...

The religious part would bother me though. If they are promoting it then it matters to them, how much it matters isn’t specified... but, THEY believe it, THEY are wise, THEY must know the answers, right? If the aliens stayed ‘friendly’, and the religion wasn’t a concept hard for us to grasp, I suppose many would ‘convert’.

Probably, to soon be taken to some wonderful planet orbiting Tau Bootis Aa, to become a noviciate in the celestial temple, and gain 'Enlightenment'... More likely to work in the spice mines, or wind up as Rancor snacks...

I doubt they would give us anything cool. Like the cure to cancer, aids, TB, diabetes, influenza, the common cold, etc. or cheap affordable cold fusion, anti gravity, FTL/WORM HOLE/FOLD/WARP SPACE drives.

That would destroy the multi billion a year pharmaceutical co’s, and the oil and power companies would go out of business, among many others I’m sure. The world governments couldn’t /wouldn’t allow it. And they (aliens) sure wouldn’t want HUMANS spreading out into the cosmos unchecked, we cant get along with each other, much less anything we might find OUT THERE...

Remember, from an evolution point of view, they are likely at the top of THEIR food chain... how long would they be around if we were?...
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.
Invision Power Board © 2001-2009 Invision Power Services, Inc.