Can anyone tell me exactly what Demonology is and any other info on it?

It's where you study or worship demons. The Necronomicon and the Goetia are fun places to start.

Demonology is actually the study of demons....you can study them without worshipping them....

True, but it is also defined as the worship of demons.

Demonology is the worship or belief in demons, that is correct. If you want to look into it, don't bother wasting time reading the Necronomicon, it's a pure fictional story written by Lovecraft. You would be more interested reading the Lemegeton, or the lesser and greater keys of solomon. Also the vast grimoires and the sefer raziel are decent books.

For some detailed information about the church and demonology, read up on the jesuits. If you want any further information on Demonology, feel free to PM me, and I can give you more detailed information.

This is a fun site. Just click on the demon's name to get the sigil.
http://www.deliriumsrealm.com/delirium/myt...emon_goetia.asp

Goetia is from the Book of solomon and the 72 lesser demon

I find it fascinating how it is always 72 that pops up a lot. 72 Angels of Severity...72 Lesser Demons. 72 cards in the Kabbalistic Tarot.

It's my pseudo beryth=berith

Berith

Aw, you can turn metal into gold. How cute.

Thanks for the sight Yelekiah. I clicked on Belial to read up on him. I had always kind of thought Belial was a made-up demon??...

Here is an interesting thought, Lucifer was second in command before being cast out, was he not? What do you think would happen if Lucifer's second in command overthrowing him and a third of his followers went with him? That would be some dangerous dynamics there.....

i have taken it's pseudo from his book

Belial couldn't have been his original name, which means wicked one. What were their angelic names?

I thought Belial meant without worth in Hebrew? Am I wrong?

I'm fairly certain it means "wicked one". I'll check the site out in a minute. But it could have more than one meaning.
edit: This is from Sacred Magic.
Belial: From Hebrew, BLIOL, = a Wicked One
I'll see if I can find out more info.

i found this

Belial
Wikipedia belial

I think a lot of the books on demonology are fictional. Written by superstitious or imaginative people.

Hmmm... this may be where it is getting confusing... According to The Dictionary of Angels, Belial is interchangable with Beliar or Berial and Beliar means worthless.

yes 95% of people

No me but i can't say why

I'm sure there were mistranslations along the way.

Something

"According to some demonologists from the 16th century, his power is stronger in June, meanwhile to Sebastian Michaelis he suggests murder and blasphemy and his adversary is St. Barnabas.

His name was surely taken from Baal Berith, a form of Baal worshipped in Berith (Beirut), Phoenicia"

I was born the 11 june 1982 and i don't why i take this pseudo berith i doesn't know this before now.

yup, yup,

I think you are both right....

My daughter was born June 30th, At least it is at the end of it!

Belial is the Prince of Trickery, and the Demon of Sodomy. And actually Amy he is Lucifers 2nd in command :-), funny how you brought that up, heh.

One word here, EWWWW!

I thought he was second in command. I don't know why I thought about that happening, but think about it for a second. If it can happen in Heaven, what makes Lucifer think it could not happen to him? I would hate to think of the ramifications if it did

I don't think Belial exists, but that would be interesting. Where would he go if he "betrayed" the devil?

Exactly, you could not have "two" hells could you? Think of THAT power struggle. It would get very ugly.....

With lots of sodomy, yes.

EWWWW! Guys, please, we gotta stop using that word! (curls up in a ball, shudders).

If I'm not mistaken, the Goetia was written by an anonymous author, even though it is tied to Solomon. I'll have to look that up.

Here are some links to that topic:

http://heru-ra-ha.tripod.com/topics/goetia.html

http://www.geocities.com/xeroiii/Goetia/8Goetia.htm

http://www.esotericarchives.com/solomon/goetia.htm

The last one is very popular, which makes me think it is just a medieval invention, if not slightly after the medieval period. I could have sworn one of the books was written in the 17th century...

Belial is not powerful enough to make that decesion, he would have no where to go. He is not powerful enough to create his own realm. The best he can do is battle Satan / Lucifer for the position, but he would lose. Demons are angels, and they are highly loyal to eachother. I have no doubt in my mind that the demons in hell, and the angels in heaven are still somewhat friends. The only conflict of interest are their feelings toward us, OR, their loyalty to Satan / Lucifer.

The way I think of it, is the following. A group in the army is trained to be the best of the best. They spend their lives following the orders of their superiors and doing every mission they ask. However, all the sudden the General creates a new group of people. Not only does he like them more, he tells his other group, who has always done everything he said to bow down to the new group. To be brutally honest, I'd be a bit mad too. Now although all of the soliders are too take commands from the General, they rally behind their commander on his decesion to disband from the group, and organize his own mercenary type group. He more or less wants to prove he is better then the new group, and continues to harass them, tempt them to make them screw up. I find it makes a bit of sense, since angels are nothing more then the army and messangers of God.

Then who is to say who is right and who is wrong?

God does. Lucifer / Satan did not want to bow down due to pride, this is a sin.

Agreed. But is it not a sin to want all to bow down before you and follow only you?

Last time I checked...no.

LOL

No sin in that, your the creator, you demand the respect, you make the rules. You demand, or at least hope your children will respect you, and the rules of your house, if not, get out. If my parents adopted a child, I would love him as my other brothers.

Azalin,

You intrigue me!

Well, you made my day :-).

Glad I could help!

It's not a sin to want it - but to go after it, yes. If it were a sin to want it, then all temptation would be sin, and we'd all be a lot more screwed than we really are.

Demonology, while intriguing, is really only part of a larger study - angeology. Demons being believed to be fallen angels are powerful, and inriguing. However, studying all of them can be very interesting. I would be intrerested in a study of the types of angels, and how the different known/believed demons fall into the larger categories of angels. how does this effect their characteristics, etc.

Anyone have any info on this?

You can read the book of Enoch on the bible. It talks about the fall of the angels. The hierarchy of demons and angels are very similiar, just the association of the names are different. Angels are known as Arch-Angels, Seriphims , Thrones, Principalities , Guardian Angels, Cherubim , Virtues, and The Powers.

However, in hell it takes a more English Saxon Hierarchy. It goes in this order. Emporers, Kings, Dukes, Barons, Counts, Lords, and then Knights and servants.

All of this doesn't really change their characteristics, although demons are said to look very grusome, or to include multiple heads, horns, snakes and so fourth. I assume they do this to impose fear, or power using intimidation over us.

Though, I think it would also be fair to say that there is the possibility that some Angels may also include those same characteristics - i.e. the creatures in revelations.

Wow, you guys are really knowledgable.

I found this site: www.warens.net its the official site of Lorraine and Ed Warren, Ed is a demononlogist.

So do you study it, and where do you do so?

We'd all be tricked into picking up his soap? *giggles and giggles*

Ugh.... Do not believe anything those people have to say! They have been proven time and time again to be fakes and all they like to do is insight fear into people!



Um, yeah, hehehe *grows pale, faints*

I had the pleasure of meeting Ed Warren when I was with the church. He is a very renouned demonologists, I know even a lot of the clergy at the church contact him for certain answers.

When I met him, he seemed like a very decent person, very knowlegable, but somewhat conceited and egotistical. He believed he could convert anyone into believing what he wanted, at least, he came off that way. And maybe he could, he had the knowledge, and so does their nephew John Zaffis.

Conceited and egotistical - yes. Knowledgable - yes. In my opinion, still a fraud. They do nothing but prey upon people who need help and incite their fears. Their biggest blunder - The Amityville... Anyone watch A Haunting in Conneticut? That to was grossly exaggerated.

There have been a couple of authors that have come out stating that Ed Warren had told them to "embellish and make-things up because the public will buy anything". Sorry if I sound a little disgusted, but I am. I hate hearing about people being taken advantage of in desperate situations.

The Warrens may have initially started out trying to do good, in the end their vanity got the better of them and they do more harm.