I'm very much an adult, thank you.
I am attacking the use of this forum to manipulatively promote cult ideals. As noted by a moderator, one of Claude's original threads were deemed a possible recruitment ploy and CLOSED.
I see absolutely no difference in that thread and this thread.
The exact same pattern exists:
Questions are asked with the intended result being a "sway" to the "belief system" of the original poster.

That, dear Yel, is against forum rules.

Actually that thread is still open. And this is another thread. And now you are changing this around to get the attention off of you.

Did you even get my pm?

I will do so now.

Even though there are "mix-ups" or mispronunciations with the name, I think the correct pronunciation is imperative. Because that is the one that holds the most power, in my opinion. It's been a taboo to pronounce IHVH, because magic was prohibited. Speaking essentially, can be incorporated into magic. You'll notice there are others name used than the original, because the name is sacred.

So I have put up the evidence for you all to see after being asked to do so. So what is it that mystifies you now? What is your question or rational explanation to the facts I have put forward, apart from having another swipe at my integrity? It is no wonder that I choose to confuse all by my various signatures and names it was also for the purpose of showing you the logic that you present to me. Thus a fair exchange has been made for your reasoning, or lack of.

Kindness and best regard's

P.S. By all means keep on debating on this subject as it will take out some of your anger for when I start the next topic of comtroversy about who the real creator is, who goes by the name of "RA". I will be away for the rest of the week to Tasmania, and will catch up with all the compliments then.

Happy Travells till then!

"I AM"

For those of you who might have missed reading this on another forum post yesterday here is you explanation to all the identities: Yes W.S. I AAAM and I will always be. Who else could I be if it was not me being true to myself and others? So I offer my sincere apology's for those whom I may have confused with titles, names and labels, but it was an important lesson to be learned by willing participants to whom I hope I have enlightened in some small way. When I first entered these forums, everyone was asking who is this idiot, and why should we give him any credibility? My answer to these questions has been long drawn, and sufficient to satisfy your criteria in assessing ones credibility, and in the end we all found out that the labels we choose to wear do not mean a thing. What a great lesson in life I have shared with you all! I only hope that it serves you well!

None of that makes a single bit of sense. That actually confused me.lol

It's really quite simple: I AAAM is saying that any mis-statements, mis-conceptions or mis-representations are "lessons" !!!!!!!!!!!!
Using this tactic, one is NEVER WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In their mind, that is.

palli, then you must admit that I AAAM has learned the most fundamental lesson there is to learn from the religions.

Indeed. Most troubling. More specifically, I AAAM has learned and is practicing the art of manipulation.
I have noticed an enormous ego presented in his posts; perhaps someone in the past has agreed with his incessant babbling and as a result unwittingly encouraged the growth of his "I am the bringer of truth" mentality.

Be also aware that I AMMM seeks to convince others of a mythical creator called "RA"

What I AAAM is doing is nothing short of hijacking the Raelian cult idealogy and modifying it with his own desires, in the hope of gaining a "slave" following.

^
A slave following?

Of course! Since "I AAAM" has all the answers(in his mind), certainly you are a slave to that in following.

pallidin, no offense, but you sound paranoid. Do you have anything to contribute to the topic on the name of God?

Ask yourself this question: Who does I AAAM believe is the bringer of truth? He claims it is himself.
A very weak person might allow this manipulation because they have no sense of personal "direction", thus the weak seeks that direction from others.

Are you talking about people that are mentally incompetent?

I'll leave it at that.

So what do you think about IHVH?

This consideration has no influence, whatsoever, within any human endeavor apart from individual psychosis.
Can you call upon the hidden spirits by simple virture of name? No.

Is this opinion from personal experience?

Yes, but be aware that this path is very hard.
The most important part of that path is self-honesty, with an especial emphasis of "I am wrong".
That path WILL kill you, but you must continue.
Through that, the hidden spirits will manifest, not as humans.

So, what are your thoughts on Hebrew Numerology?

The nature of the spiritual realm is greatly beyond our senses. There are entities around us even as we speak. There are, perhaps, 6 or 7 around you, and I, right now. They ARE NOT within the same dimension as each other, such that all 7 perceive each other, no no...

Only the higher perceives the lower; the lower can "think about" but not directly perceive above it.

I didn't mean that kind of numerology. I meant the Hebrew one.

There are secrets contained within, but make no mistake... that can not be discerned by everyone. This was on purpose.

Link?

As you refer to the Kabbalah, there is no true link for your answer. Such writings and discourse are held in the strictest of secrecy.
You know that.

The link on your talk of 6 or 7 spirits.

Do you seriously think they exist on the web as a "link"?
These are powerful spiritual entities, not some commodity on eBay.

Peace to all.. I am retiring for the evening.

Pallidin

pallidin, if you're going to make wild claims, a little linky will do. You're no better than other people who make wild claims (wink wink).

Consider this: if you believe in G-d (or gods), as All Things, as spirit, then doesn't logic dictate that we (humans) are manifestations of G-d, and, furthermore, wouldn't those spiritual realms a certain poster alluded to be a part of our being, our sublime nature?

So what you're doing when you are calling to God, is calling to your Higher Self.

To answer your question, in short, yes. Although I would not use the phrase, "Higher Self," because I don't believe anyone has a "Higher Self": I think you concentrate more directly upon your consciousness.

Yelekiah, you know I'm far from the authority on any subject. It's nothing more than a hypothesis. After spending 12 years in Hebrew school learning that the ultimate, teleological Judaic belief is that created All Things, it seems logical to me that the very essence of G-d is contained in each of us, and, as well, is contained in All Things.

*And, just for a entertaining tangent, many would argue that we don't have a singular "self"; we have a multitude of "selves."

One more thing...

The film "pi" has a very interesting Kabbalah/Numerology aspect to it. If you have not seen the film, it's worthwhile.

Cool info, but that wasn't a question, it was a statement. I'll check the film out though, my friends have been trying to get me to watch it.

There is no name of the jewish god. He has discriptions, titles that only describe a characteristic of god or a role he takes on but is not limited to. He isnt a creator but takes on the role of creation, he isnt a judge but sometimes he takes on the role. and yadda yadda.
And by 7 spirits are you refering to the kabbalah, the tree of life, theres 9 dimensions or heavens.
10th one malkuth(sp) isnt a heaven its this reality but are you meaning the law of 7?


And YHWH Isnt a hidden name, ancient hebrew wasnt written with vowels, you just had to know how to speak it to read it.
Now I heard a theory though that YHWH is close to describing god cause god is somethn sided(forgot the term)
Y is fire first H is water, and the last two i cant remember the order but its wind and earth.

Now the belief that if you know the true name of god. They say if you know the names of god(again not litearly names as you think of names) and what he said under each title during creation(exact to the T), and you put this on a scroll and place it in the mouth of a golom itll come alive. I think a drop of blood is required but that might be new age fluff added on to it.

Now the numerology do you mean as in a alphebet equals a letter and a number. So it would be like there is no 1 just A so A + A = B so..... B A's equal B or how it would actualy be .... two ones equal two = (20)(23)(15) (15)(14)(5)(19) (5)(17)(21)(1)(12) (20)(23)(15)

Edit just for fun I added it up
2 = 58
and 1 = 34 close was just off by 10.

Y=10
H=5
W=6
God=26=8

I=yod=fire
H=he=water
V=vau=air
H=he=earth

The Tetragrammaton, aka God's true name, was used in the Creation. With each permutation, you get the name of an angel. The pronunciation was imperative to the work of a magician that wanted to create, or at least undo creations.

How ridiculous is that?!!! The "pronounciation" is only imperative in the psychotic mind of the "magician"

Magician is the one who studies Kabbalah. It isn't a literal magician, pallidin.

http://www.meta-religion.com/Esoterism/Kabbalah/kabbalah.htm
Hint to pallidin: Try reading articles before quoting me.

Thank you Santa! And please let me shake your hand! You are on the correct path to wisdom! Yes! This "Prime Creator" is in "each of us"! the one and only way that we will ever realise this for our self, is when we learn to realy see what light shines from within and bring it to the surface to become our reality and our saviour. When we achieve this, we become aware of our past, present and future missions in this life, we become and bear the proud name: "I AM" May you and yours find the way to "BE"!

Yes! Thank you hyper! This lesson was taught to me quite a few years ago, and the "clouded religious doctrines" were and are just that.

In my opinion, "God" created a reality out of nothing. The Sephiroth appearing out of nothing, takes the appearance of a lightning bolt (which has no end). Within this is the name of God. Because God's words are within it.
The divine names of the lightning bolt are: Eheieh, Yah, Yahweh Elohim, El, Elohim Gibor, Jehovah Eloh Va-Da'at, Jehovah Tzabaoth, Elohim Tzabaoth, Shadi El Chi, Adoni Melekh Ha-Aretz.
IHVH has all the elements.
^
I=fire
H=water
V=air
H=earth
So God's name is a synthesis.

"AMEN"!!!
The only truth that I will ever wish to find and know is written in this book, and you can take it or leave it the choice is your's but the "Pleiadians" teachings are the only truth or logic, in this world of lies and illogical materialistic essence.

These are the translations of the many names.
Eheieh
("I am")
Yah
("Lord")
Yhvh Elohim
("Lord God")
El
("God")
Elohim Gibor
("Almighty God")
Yhvh Eloah ve-Daath
("Lord God of Knowledge")
Yhvh Tzabaoth
("Lord of Hosts")
Elohim Tzaboath
("God of Hosts")
Shaddai El Chai
("Almighty Living God")
Adonai ha-Aretz
("Lord of Earth")

Sounds like an interesting book.

The book is worth it's weight in gold one milion fold (well to me it is) your views may be different, and to this you are welcome to hold and have your own views. My best wish would be for all the Raelians of the World to read this book, and then any one of the ex family who have any clear perception of their own, would no longer be Raelians. For me to make this statement is a statement in itself, due to having being baptised by choice into this religion, and to be a most dedicated follower for the past 7 years.

I appologise to anyone who believed me to have been trying to conscript for this movement. I could not think of anyone worst worth following, unless of course we bring in all the other religions into the equqtion, with the next worst being one of the largest followed faiths on this earth.

Kindness and light to you all !!! Claude

lol
I read a lot of things because of so many diverse people where I live. All sorts of books lying around. Trust me. People can read things without believing it, but it's good to be well-rounded in my opinion. See things from someone else's perspective. I've enjoyed posting here.

Thank you 'Yel' it's been a pleasure to be here, and to inform and "non conform". This is what being "individual" is all about; it is about having the freedom to express one's views, and to be respected for this democratic right which we should all share in this world which we call "our's"... At the end of the day if we choose to be blindly led by those who say they are our leaders, one only has to take a good look at the past, to see where these fools (which some call leaders) lead us, so as they can keep us in confinement in the boundaries of their “outdated rules and beliefs”, and to dish out more of the same, but only in greater quantities than they ever done before. May your journeys lead you to the light, and please do not confuse my name...

Kindness and white light to those who seek it...

Claude

People believe all sorts of things, don't they?

wow.

This is an awe-inspired "wow" moment, not a "wow, who's dumb enough to believe that" moment, I assure you.

Wow.

Okay, interesting reading (of that I actually still recall).

So That Which Must Not/Cannot Be Named does have a name that does have power if said assuming anyone still knew how to pronouce it? That the name of said --??-- may be a combination of all things Elemental? Or is it something else altogether?

Does --??-- care what we think about this name-game, or have we been left to our own devices to exist and only exist? Are we making a puzzle out of this when there is nothing that really needs to be solved?

People who know how to pronounce the language can pronounce the name. But it is sacred. Jews were not allowed to pronounce it, that's how much of a taboo it was. And instead they would use the name Adonai. Yes, the name is all of the elements, as I have previously stated. Then name, incidentally, not only can bring about creation, but the apocalypse as well. But it is a specific ritual that has to be performed.