Here is a stat I wanted you to know "Young people today are three times more likely to go out than young people 20 years ago and party habits have changed." at these private parties student drinking is unregulated and unsupervised. And, unlike bars, private house parties have no laws limiting drinking capacity or trained bartenders to monitor drinking. And it is such conditions which have played a role in student deaths. I think students who are caught in a wild party should be arrested and fined and parents should also be fined for not having control over there own child.

Why? Does in not come down to the responsibility of the person.

And why arrest them, thats just causing unnecessary work for police departments and are already under funded.

That's a ridiculous reason to have the parents fined. Some parents work a lot and cannot supervise their children 24/7.


I agree.

Underfunded i disagree, thats where the fine would come in handy. yes you are correct about people being responsible for themselves, but kids are not aware about trouble they face and As a parent, you just can't say it is OK for your son/daughter to go to just anyone's home and assume they are going to be safe…you can't assume that this day and age with everything that is out there: whether it be crazy drunk guys, date rape drugs, dangerous acts by others, etc. Plus as you know we all have lied or stretched the truth to our parents at one point or another regarding certain things. The question you need to ask yourself is this IS THIS A PARTY YOU WOULD GLADLY BRING YOUR PARENTS TO? If not that means there is something wrong. Another question you need to consider is why don’t you think many parents this day and age attend such parties as this? Is it because they feel there is something fundamentally wrong with what goes on at these parties…or maybe is it they don’t want to be caught up with the wrong crowd…or maybe they just feel there is something not right with what goes on at these parties…or maybe it’s because they know deep down inside God doesn’t look fondly upon what goes on at some of these parties…

good idea, needs little refinement and is that your pic as avatar?

what type of refinement?? yeah...

That's a ridiculous reason to have the parents fined. Some parents work a lot and cannot supervise their children 24/7.

If a parent isn't able to raise a child properly, the parent shouldn't be responsible for the child in the first place. Wether or not attenting such parties is a sign of bad upbringing, is debatable.

You do realize that kids sneak out a lot? As a parent, what are you going to do, put them on a leash?

It is, but even children who are raised "properly", go out and party. It isn't necessarily the upbringing. What it boils down to is the choice of that child.

kids and parents be given community services. not fined unless it results in crime. and you yourself look young <3 so how did you come with this idea?

Of course such things can happen. When they happen REPEATEDLY, reasonable precautions might be appropriate.

So, yari, do you have any brothers or sisters?

Ofcourse the parent should be responsible for his or her child, they brought them to this world... and its not about putting a child on a leash .Being a great parent is about instilling knowledge, potency and the correct principles. Identifying yourself with children impacts the person your child will become. Therefore, characterizing yourself, knowing where you stand and determining what you want for your children will define what future the child will have and strive for. YOU cant let them out in the dark and let them rot to death. (people have done that , which is very sad).... but any ways back to the topic... A parent should be fined because it shows the lack of disipline and concern for the well being of his or her child...Not only that but a drunk kid is putting at risk everyone around him or her...so it would also play a role in the lack of welfare for those around and i think the parent should be fined as well for not setting a limit.

Also, what about parents who allow their children to drink in their own homes? What if they throw a "wild party" during Thanksgiving? They should all be arrested and fined then?

Parities have changed over the years/decades. Sure there is drugs, rape, fights. I'm not saying it's ok for these things to happen but the truth is it's been happing for years, and will continue to for years to come. It can avoided and prevented but never eliminated.

When our parents were young I'm sure they never wanted there parents going to there parities. And why would they go anyways? When you are 50 I'm sure you're not going to want to go to a party were everyone else is young and hip, you just dont fit in.

And fines?? Think about it, they have to hire more cops to hand out fines and enforce the arrests.

why?

Incorrect. I know tons of kids who are very well-disciplined and still go out and drink.

don't get me wrong, I'm against crime and death. but if there is anyway this is to be avoided then the system has to come with good plan. and oh nice pic.avatar.

Well if you do, and one of your brothers and sisters (if you have any) went out and partied (snuck out), do you think your parents should be fined? And your sibling should be arrested and have their record screwed?

Incorrect. I know tons of kids who are very well-disciplined and still go out and drink.

This is not about going out and drinking. This is about going out and drinking yourself into oblivion, and similar stupid stuff.

just came up...

If I'm not mistaken, this topic is about parties and drinking. So my comment was relevant.

Yeah i do think they should be fined. but maybe i am saying that cause i have no brothers and sisters.

guyz easy...she made a good point. there no harm in ur say! and its for safety of youngsters.

Kids just want to have fun, it's a right of passage.

Two words-

Boot camp.

Mom's and dad's should watch their kids and know their friends. As a teen I partied but I did it responsibly and was at home by 11:00 pm. My parents trusted me and knew my friends. I think if a child goes out it should be up to the parents to know. And if they don't kniow a child should be punished by their parents.

All right, but I'm sure if you had brothers and sisters you would feel differently. But that's just my opinion.

I dont know about boot camp

you said it very well

It works with some.

But with some. No.

Kids are going to do whatever they wish.

But if they work with their parents and communication is there. A child will honor their parents.

I did. Without boot camp.

But I was a good kid.

exactly. Its not that im saying arrest/ fine every kid and parent out there who drinks ..Im mainly just pointing out those who really screw up and go overboard....and end up going out of control......plus i like to live in a safe environment where i dont have to look out for crazy drunk drivers who end up killing innocent people....or crazy kids shooting other kids because they were drunk or high..... i dont know i guess i care for others too much....

hmmm

Exactly. And a parent cannot control the child 24/7. They shouldn't be fined for actions they are not responsible for.

It cant be stopped

I agree

In lots of cases it is the parents lack of discipline in the first place that leads to drugs and drinking too much.

And think about this...it's a gross waste of time to be fining innocent people who have disciplined their children or sent them to boot camp. Some kids are beyond help. It's stupid to say that a parent should have money taken out of their pocket because of their child.

Or it's too much discipline that leads to rebellion.

True, but not all cases. Too much discipline, incidentally, has been known to have the same effect.

I don't think parents should be fined, I think future parents should enforce more discipline.

I agree, I know someone that that has happened too. Rebelling against their parents to try and make a point.

^I agree. But moderation is key either way.

yes its true....

It shouldn't be up to authorities to raise children. Unless it is a case of gross negligence or abuse, the government shouldn't be jumping in at any moment it feels necessary to tell parents what they should do with their children.

Some kids are wilder than others. Yari, you're really young, you'll see with a little more perspective that parties where *gasp* kids drink and get a little wild is just a part of growing up. It always has been. Stupid? Usually. Dangerous? Can be. Worthy of legal action on the scale of which you speak? Not a chance.

Wild Party? Students?

Sounds good to me. Without parties every so often, life would be a lot more boring.
Drinking with your friends and listening to loud music, singing along at the end and falling into bushes are all things that I love to do.

Well, we DO have education programs about smoking, alcohol etc. now....
And hey, look, if people want to kill themselves with drugs, drink driving, etc. then they can...

One of my friends once said "You're life is going to be really boring, you'll never take drugs or anything"
I replied "You live is going to be really short"

If I'm not mistaken, this topic is about parties and drinking. So my comment was relevant.

I wasn't attacking you or anything. I just think she wasn't talking about drinking a beer or two, but about the serious stuff.


Personally, I think, that legal action isn't necessary. It can't hurt however to raise their awareness of the dangers, that go with such actions, which is being done for quite some time now, with little or no success if you ask me, but,to be honest, I can't think of a better way myself.

Jesus, I think some people really need to lighten up.
You're only young once after all

Hey Yari, I totally understand why you think these wild parties are bad. People can't see that it is because parents care that they look out for us. But I still wouldn't say no to a wild party, being a teenager I'm somehow automatically drawn to things like this

Because of a previous incident, if I am caught possessing drugs or alcohol, am caught drunk or high in public, I'm heading for juvenile prison so I gotta be careful

On a more serious note, I could have screwed up my whole life, so I'd say to others maybe not to go too crazy.

uh oh sounds like somebody's crack-den got raided