Have you got any fact that proves Hitler is not killed him self??
For people who know former yugoslavian leader, most succefull leader, did they know that TITO on his left hand has only 4 fingers. one he lose while he was mashinist. Tito what we know from our TV and from life has all fingers on both hands.
I am waiting for your facts!
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Have you got any fact that proves Hitler is not killed him self??
I am guessing you are asking if there is proof that Hitler killed himself.
Well I think that they found his skull in the bunker.
Hitler definitely killed himself, even if you don't believe this, then there is no denying the fact that there is no way he have been able to be a fugitive for so long and he would almost certainly be dead by now.
He killed himself.
QUOTE(Mr Ed @ Nov 5 2005, 11:54 AM) [snapback]917308[/snapback]
I am guessing you are asking if there is proof that Hitler killed himself.
Well I think that they found his skull in the bunker.
Hitler definitely killed himself, even if you don't believe this, then there is no denying the fact that there is no way he have been able to be a fugitive for so long and he would almost certainly be dead by now.
He killed himself.
It is not I do not belive in that, I just exploring. Because noone ever confirm those what they found is his bones.
QUOTE(bosnian @ Nov 5 2005, 01:54 PM) [snapback]917401[/snapback]
It is not I do not belive in that, I just exploring. Because noone ever confirm those what they found is his bones.
you any facts to back it up....any theory or website.
QUOTE(darkknight @ Nov 5 2005, 09:08 AM) [snapback]917410[/snapback]
you any facts to back it up....any theory or website.
Um, I think the situation is actually that (s)he has asked for "the facts". His/her stance is logically superior, a simple request for factual position. What you've done, though, is ask for a factual negation, a logically inferior stance: there's no way anybody can meet your demand for factual evidence of what didn't happen.
QUOTE(GabrielAPetrie @ Nov 5 2005, 02:51 PM) [snapback]917451[/snapback]
Um, I think the situation is actually that (s)he has asked for "the facts". His/her stance is logically superior, a simple request for factual position. What you've done, though, is ask for a factual negation, a logically inferior stance: there's no way anybody can meet your demand for factual evidence of what didn't happen.
geez thanks for logic...
here is someone who guessed what i implied...well to answer the question if hitler killed or not try this link at logic prevails...lol
I think Hitler killed himself, he was very proud person and didn't want to be killed by his enemies and probably because he lost the war. you know i think he didn't want to seem like a looser in the history.
It's very likely he killed himself. Then he had others burn his body. Because of that, the evidence would be lacking of course.
Most of the SS Leaders killed themselves... Why should Hitler be any different?
QUOTE(*_* @ Nov 5 2005, 04:42 PM) [snapback]917526[/snapback]
I think Hitler killed himself, he was very proud person and didn't want to be killed by his enemies and probably because he lost the war. you know i think he didn't want to seem like a looser in the history.
But he was serously psihicly "mistaked" and it cost europe many lifes (include my grand-father who was killed in Stolac, Bosnia by german soldier 1943.). Does psihicly destroed man have proud and couragement for suicide?
And really I just need facts people, not opinions yes or no. tell me if yes whay yes if no why no. Evidence please
Hitler's body was burned. When you burn a body, it destroys the evidence.
The soviets burned and buried his body and then came back later and the body they found and said was hitlers may not have been, Doctors new that hitler had only one testicle and the body showen to be Hitlers had 2, hmmm He may have went to argentina.
His body was not completely burned
Sorry posted something from another thread.
His body was not completely burned
Sorry posted something from another thread.
hitler is nothing he was not human he was a alien ubsest with killing people who belived the alien they sent(jesus) was a fruad
QUOTE(migrane @ Nov 5 2005, 04:10 PM) [snapback]917904[/snapback]
hitler is nothing he was not human he was a alien ubsest with killing people who belived the alien they sent(jesus) was a fruad
Is this your opinion? If not, link please.
QUOTE(migrane @ Nov 5 2005, 02:10 PM) [snapback]917904[/snapback]
hitler is nothing he was not human he was a alien ubsest with killing people who belived the alien they sent(jesus) was a fruad
WoW can you say why you think this and provide a little just a little evidence/link hehe. He was not an alien thats crazy talk, a political master mind and psyco to boot, did you know he designed the very first volkswagon and called it for the people hence volkswagon.
QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Nov 5 2005, 02:15 PM) [snapback]917907[/snapback]
Is this your opinion? If not, link please.
Hey Yelekiah, this link might give you a laugh, but I put all my faith in it
opps add link
http://www.geohanover.com/docs/961022ed.htm
QUOTE(The Silver Thong @ Nov 5 2005, 03:56 PM) [snapback]917899[/snapback]
The soviets burned and buried his body and then came back later and the body they found and said was hitlers may not have been, Doctors new that hitler had only one testicle and the body showen to be Hitlers had 2, hmmm He may have went to argentina.
His body was not completely burned
Sorry posted something from another thread.
Yes...out of all places, they fled to South America. I wonder why...
I know Joseph Mengele, AKA the Angel of Death, the guy who performed the experiments at the camps fled to Brazil. He would have died of old age now, they never caught him.
QUOTE(Kacen @ Nov 5 2005, 02:19 PM) [snapback]917911[/snapback]
Yes...out of all places, they fled to South America. I wonder why...
I know Joseph Mengele, AKA the Angel of Death, the guy who performed the experiments at the camps fled to Brazil. He would have died of old age now, they never caught him.
True the ones(nazis) that did not get scooped by operation paperclip went to south america.
A Channeled Lecture by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
^Wow, lol. That reminds me...The greys gained popularity in the 60s, right? I don't recall there being info on them in the 30s. There were weird cryptid aliens though.
But back to Hitler...
^Wow, lol. That reminds me...The greys gained popularity in the 60s, right? I don't recall there being info on them in the 30s. There were weird cryptid aliens though.
But back to Hitler...
I have no proof, this is just my opinion. I do think Hitler made it out of Germany and relocated to Argintina, I believe he was allowed to do this by the allied forces. At the time the mind set of the general population would be kill him and do it now, but by keeping him alive the allied forces or maybe the U.S. it's self wanted him,he was a man of many secrets and most of those secrets could prove to be very valuable to any one.
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http://www.gpc.edu/~shale/humanities/compo.../paperclip.html
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http://www.gpc.edu/~shale/humanities/compo.../paperclip.html
sometimes i think, maybe he ran away to another country or something, could it be possible ????? i know this is a weird question.. 
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sometimes i think, maybe he ran away to another country or something, could it be possible ????? i know this is a weird question..
Not really possibly, no. The allies had him surrounded, there was no where he could escape to from where he was.
This question is a bit like the OJ simpson scenario, we all know he did it, but there is no concrete proof, to my knowledge anyway.
Several rumors and theories are roaming freely about Hitler and Eva Braun deaths. Here is a quote from a website about her life:
This is about their suicide and being from German descent myself most of my German relatives know this version although I am stating it as a true fact because it may have been made up by the Government of the times.
Only two people really know what happened and I doubt you find them to ask, Hitler and Eva.
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Eva Braun, the young woman who had spent most of her life waiting for Hitler, would now be with him forever - she had agreed to share Adolf Hitler's fate. Shortly before his suicide, Hitler said of Eva: "Miss Braun is, besides my dog Blondi, the only one I can absolutely count on ..."
A local magistrate married them early on the morning of April 29, 1945, as a crowning award for her loyalty to the end.
The marriage document survived. Eva started to sign her name "Eva Braun" but stopped, crossed out the "B" and wrote "Eva Hitler, born Braun." Goebbels and Bormann signed as witnesses.
The next day shortly after 3 p.m. Hitler retired with Eva Braun to his private rooms. They bit into thin glass vials of cyanide. As he did so, Hitler also shot himself in the head with a 7.65 mm Walther pistol.
Those who entered Hitler's suite saw him lying on a blood-soaked sofa. Eva Braun lay on the sofa beside him, but she had made no use of the revolver at her side, preferring to take the poison instead. Hitler's body was wrapped in a blanket and carried, along with Eva Braun's, up four flights of steps and into the garden of the chancellery. Both bodies were doused with gasoline and burned.
On the evening of the following day Radio Hamburg announced that "our Fuhrer Adolf Hitler died for Germany in his command post in the Reich Chancellery this afternoon, fighting to his last breath against Bolshevism".
He had founded the Third Reich 12 years and three months before. It would survive him for one week.
A local magistrate married them early on the morning of April 29, 1945, as a crowning award for her loyalty to the end.
The marriage document survived. Eva started to sign her name "Eva Braun" but stopped, crossed out the "B" and wrote "Eva Hitler, born Braun." Goebbels and Bormann signed as witnesses.
The next day shortly after 3 p.m. Hitler retired with Eva Braun to his private rooms. They bit into thin glass vials of cyanide. As he did so, Hitler also shot himself in the head with a 7.65 mm Walther pistol.
Those who entered Hitler's suite saw him lying on a blood-soaked sofa. Eva Braun lay on the sofa beside him, but she had made no use of the revolver at her side, preferring to take the poison instead. Hitler's body was wrapped in a blanket and carried, along with Eva Braun's, up four flights of steps and into the garden of the chancellery. Both bodies were doused with gasoline and burned.
On the evening of the following day Radio Hamburg announced that "our Fuhrer Adolf Hitler died for Germany in his command post in the Reich Chancellery this afternoon, fighting to his last breath against Bolshevism".
He had founded the Third Reich 12 years and three months before. It would survive him for one week.
This is about their suicide and being from German descent myself most of my German relatives know this version although I am stating it as a true fact because it may have been made up by the Government of the times.
Only two people really know what happened and I doubt you find them to ask, Hitler and Eva.
Hitler didn't die he's on mars with bigfoot and Elvis.
bigfoot is not on mars. he is on uranus, get your facts straight and do some research for once. it is hitler, elvis, and the "where's the beef" lady that are on mars.
Not long ago Hitler's nurse finally revealed her version of the last hours of Hitler's life. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4505415.stm. She expressly says that he killed himself. Personally I have always thought it odd that people like Joseph Mengele, Klauss Altmann y Walter Kutschmann could flee to Argentina but Hitler could not. Especially when you consider that many had inside help from the vatican in their escape.
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WoW can you say why you think this and provide a little just a little evidence/link hehe. He was not an alien thats crazy talk, a political master mind and psyco to boot, did you know he designed the very first volkswagon and called it for the people hence volkswagon.
Um, I believe Fredinand Porshe designed the Volkswagen Beetle. Although Hitler did sponsor the porject. A couple of years ago an article in Time Magazine stated that a skull who's dental record matched Mengele's was found in Brazil. So, you can check that one off the list.
I use to think that hitler killer himself.. But i've read alot about this.. The Russians are suppose to have taken his bones... I have to wonder this is what i've found out so far....
Hilter was truly insane, He killed his lover but the body they found burned was not the same height as him... Ok Burning a body does change it... Alot of people where suppose to have seen him after he died.. Well that happens all the time... He was said to have died in the French mountain's at the age of 90... No way he could have lived that long as sick as he was....What do you think...?
Me i think he was a sick man who killed himself when he figured he never win... The Russians, US, and Brit's where all over Germany, What choice did he have.. alot of the Officer took their own life's, I think it's safe to say he was a coward who took his own life.....
Hilter was truly insane, He killed his lover but the body they found burned was not the same height as him... Ok Burning a body does change it... Alot of people where suppose to have seen him after he died.. Well that happens all the time... He was said to have died in the French mountain's at the age of 90... No way he could have lived that long as sick as he was....What do you think...?
Me i think he was a sick man who killed himself when he figured he never win... The Russians, US, and Brit's where all over Germany, What choice did he have.. alot of the Officer took their own life's, I think it's safe to say he was a coward who took his own life.....
We whom are of German descent wish that he was born on Mars but unfortunately he was not. Not only were people of Jewish faith was sent to camps but so were Germans who did not look like his ideal German should look like. Many people's blood stained his hands and I am for one wish that a human being like him never appears in history again but someone already has. Their are always going to be a human being like Hitler and I hope we fight back with every fiber of our beings.
I'm not able to remember the title of the book, but a member of the Youth Brigade wrote an autobiography about his life, and the fact that he was in charge of burning Hitler and Eva's bodies after the committed suicide.
When talking about history you shouldn't use your point of view.
Hitler was a genius! A military and political genius!
He most probably shot himself in order to end his life undefeated. It's simple.
Hitler was a genius! A military and political genius!
He most probably shot himself in order to end his life undefeated. It's simple.
Not so sure about the military part. He had to have help from others in that department.
QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Nov 9 2005, 08:15 PM) [snapback]924038[/snapback]
Not so sure about the military part. He had to have help from others in that department.
Most of them actually betrayed him, but that's another story.
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Hitler was a genius! A military and political genius!
Hmm, that is debatable. I agree with you, more or less, when you say that he was a poltical genius. Afterall he did execute a legal revolution, he gave his totalitatian government legitimacy! Well, kind of...
Military genius? He invaded the USSR. Maybe his potential genius was blinded by his own hatred.
Edit- Actually, I doubt he was a genius. I mean what genius decides that the Jews are evil and should be wiped out? More insane and intelligent rather than a genius.
QUOTE(Mr Ed @ Nov 9 2005, 08:22 PM) [snapback]924041[/snapback]
Hmm, that is debatable. I agree with you, more or less, when you say that he was a poltical genius. Afterall he did execute a legal revolution, he gave his totalitatian government legitimacy! Well, kind of...
Military genius? He invaded the USSR. Maybe his potential genius was blinded by his own hatred.
Edit- Actually, I a doubt he was a genius. I mean what genius decides that the Jews are evil and should be wiped out? More insane and intelligent rather than a genius.
I won't start a debate. Just because the topic is about different stuff. Respect
But I really doubt Hitler went off to some country or faked his death, because so many Nazis killed themselves and tried to have their bodies burned. You'd think that if Hitler escaped (as opposed to committing suicide) his loyal followers (Goebbels) would have went as well. But no, Goebbels and many others killed themselves. And it was because Hitler did. The evidence is not there because he had his body burned. Goebbels tried too but he wasn't as successful.
It wouldn't be Hitler, if he escaped. Hitler never runs. Hitler wins or dies undefeated. You're right Yelekiah. He was a man of honour of course.
Hitler definitely killed himself, the guy was way to proud on himself and besides a lot of other SS leader killed themselves aswell.
Right, he didn't want to seem like a failure toward the end of the war. But ironically, I think killing himself made him more of a coward and failure. Does anyone know anything about the skull that was found?
your all wrong me and my pet The Mongolian Death Worm got him!
Yelekiah, taking your own life is not always an act of cowardness. Check the Japanese harakiri or seppuku (spelling unknown 
), it's a way to preserve your pride when thing go bad for you.
), it's a way to preserve your pride when thing go bad for you.
QUOTE(Funi @ Nov 9 2005, 02:07 PM) [snapback]924108[/snapback]
Yelekiah, taking your own life is not always an act of cowardness. Check the Japanese harakiri or seppuku (spelling unknown
), it's a way to preserve your pride when thing go bad for you.I understand. But Hitler did not perform hara kiri.
He was just very proud, and didn't want to suffer consequences. Hence, he was a coward.
This probably has no connection, but it will still serve as an interesting fact, one that could be debunked actually.
I heard that Hitler got the Nazi salute from the Romans.
Almost probably no connection, but it adds another viewpoint anyway, suicide was not unusual in Roman times. Senators etc would commit suicide to save their families from shame etc...
I heard that Hitler got the Nazi salute from the Romans.
Almost probably no connection, but it adds another viewpoint anyway, suicide was not unusual in Roman times. Senators etc would commit suicide to save their families from shame etc...
QUOTE(Mr Ed @ Nov 9 2005, 09:14 PM) [snapback]924123[/snapback]
This probably has no connection, but it will still serve as an interesting fact, one that could be debunked actually.
I heard that Hitler got the Nazi salute from the Romans.
Almost probably no connection, but it adds another viewpoint anyway, suicide was not unusual in Roman times. Senators etc would commit suicide to save their families from shame etc...
*gives Mr. Ed a pint!* Cheers, bro!
There has always been the rumor that Hitler did not commit suicide because he was afraid of dying. He was a genius to the point some have called him a psychopath which most do not commit suicide. No knows for sure but some say Hitler has suffered from mental problems since early childhood. Whether there is truth in this or not we may never know a lot of the documentations during the time did not survive. Most to the people whom served under Hitler are deceased or not talking to this day. It was not just the Jewish people he killed after he divided East and West Germany those whom tried climbing the Berlin wall were shot. Germans from either side were not allowed to communicate with each other during Hitler's tyranny. If you had family on the other side of the wall you did not know if they were okay or not. Many Germans were sent to camps as well and put under the same butchers as the Jewish people. Hitler wanted all humans to be a superior white race and some practice his ideals today. I do not about you but I would not want a world like that one.
hm,,,
what would be the point of hitlers escape ???
we know that all the great dictators fought till the last drop of their blood, did everything they could to fight for what was right (In their mind)
i mean if hitler survived, i am preatty sure that he wouldnt just rest his case, and accept defeat, he would much rather like napoleon fight his way back to the top and try over and over again to accomplish his mission ....
what would be the point of hitlers escape ???
we know that all the great dictators fought till the last drop of their blood, did everything they could to fight for what was right (In their mind)
i mean if hitler survived, i am preatty sure that he wouldnt just rest his case, and accept defeat, he would much rather like napoleon fight his way back to the top and try over and over again to accomplish his mission ....
I think he could have lived, and didn't kill himself because the body they found had a extra tooth than Hitler had and only one, well, um only one, testical I think that's how you spell it. and Hitler never had any reports from his docters about any this before
Why would Adolph Hitler commit suicide after Hitler had spent so much energy executing over 5000 Nazi officials whom he 'suspected' were behind his assassination attempt at the 'Wolf' bunker, especially if he had a way out via a secret Nazi South Polar base? The March 18, 1994 issue of THE PLAIN DEALER [Cleveland, Ohio] carried an AP story titled "DOCTORS FIND BURNT BODY COULD NOT BE HITLER'S". Excerpts include: "...French forensic experts say the charred corpse said to be Hitler's is not his body... experts FALSIFIED verification reports ordered by Josef Stalin to APPEASE the Soviet dictator.... the body is actually that of an unknown German male. [The forensic experts] spent more than two years analyzing the autopsy reports prepared by Soviet coroners in the days following [the] surrender of the Third Reich in 1945... the body [said to be Hitler's] had an extra tooth and only one testicle... no German doctor who had examined Hitler before his death ever mentioned either anomaly.
So what the heck happened?
Why would Adolph Hitler commit suicide after Hitler had spent so much energy executing over 5000 Nazi officials whom he 'suspected' were behind his assassination attempt at the 'Wolf' bunker, especially if he had a way out via a secret Nazi South Polar base? The March 18, 1994 issue of THE PLAIN DEALER [Cleveland, Ohio] carried an AP story titled "DOCTORS FIND BURNT BODY COULD NOT BE HITLER'S". Excerpts include: "...French forensic experts say the charred corpse said to be Hitler's is not his body... experts FALSIFIED verification reports ordered by Josef Stalin to APPEASE the Soviet dictator.... the body is actually that of an unknown German male. [The forensic experts] spent more than two years analyzing the autopsy reports prepared by Soviet coroners in the days following [the] surrender of the Third Reich in 1945... the body [said to be Hitler's] had an extra tooth and only one testicle... no German doctor who had examined Hitler before his death ever mentioned either anomaly.
So what the heck happened?
I haven't seen him in awhile so I asume he is dead. Well, I do that with most people anyways...
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