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Lord_Kazius
get it right people you are all wrong, hitler died on account of chuck norris going back in time and giving him a deadly round house kick to the face because he didn't like his moustache.
paladin
Actually, Hitler's aides were the first people to attempt to burn Hitler's body. However, they were not completely successful. This is were the conspiracy theories begin. The theories arose because the Russians quickly took the bodies that they found, a male and a female, burned the male body some more and buried both of them in unmarked graves. The Russian's logic is that they did not want people worshipping at Hitler's grave or desecrating it. They later dug him up and moved him a couple times. If I remember correctly, they finally dug him up, cremated him. then spread his ashes in an unknown place. At least that is the story according to a History channel show that I watched on it. However, the show did raise questions aobut this whole train of events. The show gave hints to reasons why conspiracy theories existed in the first place. First consider forensic investigation at the time was limited to comparing known physical defects when finger prints and facial features had been obliterated. Which is the case with Hiitler and Eva Braun Hitler. The problem with that is that Hitler and Eva both had doubles . Which is a usual thing for Head's of State. Basically the conspiracy theory is that hte bodies were surgically altered doubles that had Hitler's and Eva's dental structure and bone injuries duplicated. In reality Hitler and Eva escaped in one of the new U-boats that could travel around the world submerged. The U-boat took them to a secret Nazi base in Antarctica and from there to places unkown. Whether or not this is true is up to interpretation. The Submarines exist and so did the Nazi base in Antarctica exists as well (although good luck on finding specific information on either). In other words, both topics were classified until they could no longer be denied. What is known is that a couple of the subs went missing at the end of the war. No one has ever accounted for the missing subs to the best of my knowledge. Searching for information about the Antarctic base will probably net you nothing. I have never run acrross anything official, past the existence of the base.
So did Hitler kill himself? More than likely, but no one really knows becasue the Soviets destroyed the only true evidence that existed. angry.gif
KB8
Someone kicked him tongue.gif laugh.gif
alephh

And one more link:

News related to the "Last days & bunker"

http://hitlernews.cloudworth.com/index.php?lite=28

For example:

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Hitler aide SS officer Otto Guensche dies - helped to burn Hitler's body

An aide to Adolf Hitler who says he helped to burn his body in Berlin in the final days of WWII has died at the age of 86. Otto Guensche was an SS officer and a member of Hitler's inner circle. He was captured by Red Army troops, but was released after several years to live quietly in western Germany. He was with Hitler when he survived an assassination attempt in July 1944, and was in the bunker in 1945 where Hitler and Eva Braun committed suicide. In a recent interview, he said that the Fuehrer had personally ordered him to burn his body. He added that he threw the rag which started the fire after chief of staff Martin Bormann had failed to ignite the bodies.
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Bio-Mage
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'm pretty sure he killed himself. Racist nazi coward pieces of sh*t usually commit suicide when faced with defeat & eventual justice.

Hitler was nothing but a coward & criminal who ceased power by being a great speaker & using racism to blame German's problems on the rest of the world.


I do not understand some people's empathy with the general hatred towards Hitler and the Nazi movement. History has noumerous examples of dogmatic racism directed at groups of different skin colour, religion, class or sexual orientation even.

Despite everything Hitler was charismatic and determined, which helped him not only make his country commit to a war with almost the entirety of europe, but drove forward science and technology a great many years. Behind his obvious leadership abilities though, a great many complexes and insecurities have driven the man beyond the edge of reason. Additionally, his very own offecers developed their own personal agendas on the way, the very cause of many of the attrocities commited during the war. Hitler was very capable of suicide as he came to realise, especially at the end when the war was lost, on how far he has gone and how little control he really had over everything.

What you you describe as "justice", would be a summary execution for public show, which contrary to what you think, does make you any better than him. If it makes you feel better though, Hitler greater punishment was seeing his very vision become a nightmare. And that was not because he lost the war.

You want to direct your anger at something....then do it to those that preach values they seem to have a hard time to follow. Project "paperclip" of the USA for example supposingly gathered all fleeing Nazi scientists to make sure their knowledge never fell into the "wrong" hands. I am sure that Hiroshima and Nagashaki will disagree with the success of that project...
louie
one fact we have is mant gereman officers escaped to argentina etc. so whos to say he wasent there being hidden an looked after by his people
Deaths Hand
QUOTE(bosnian @ Nov 5 2005, 04:51 AM) [snapback]917305[/snapback]

Have you got any fact that proves Hitler is not killed him self??

For people who know former yugoslavian leader, most succefull leader, did they know that TITO on his left hand has only 4 fingers. one he lose while he was mashinist. Tito what we know from our TV and from life has all fingers on both hands.

I am waiting for your facts!

[edited topic title to make it make sense - Tommy]


where are you from?
StalingradK
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bosnian


I'm guessing Bosnia
Orion437
QUOTE(lismore @ Mar 2 2006, 11:32 AM) [snapback]1086703[/snapback]

A lot of people claim Hitler escaped to South America on a german U boat and was sighted several times in the German community in Argentina.

http://search.think-aboutit.com/omega/files/omega18.htm

http://coverups.com/hitler/visitors2.htm

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Mmm...now i know why my neighbor is so similar to Hitler pictures... grin2.gif
sports_stud
QUOTE(bosnian @ Nov 5 2005, 04:51 AM) [snapback]917305[/snapback]

Have you got any fact that proves Hitler is not killed him self??

For people who know former yugoslavian leader, most succefull leader, did they know that TITO on his left hand has only 4 fingers. one he lose while he was mashinist. Tito what we know from our TV and from life has all fingers on both hands.

I am waiting for your facts!

[edited topic title to make it make sense - Tommy]

I live in Cache Valley Utah. I know that Richmond (right near the border of idaho) there is a lady that takes flowers to a grave every night. If you ask her she will tell you that hitler is buried there.
Harpie Lady
[b]HE KILLED HIMSELF BECAUSE HE LOST THE SPEAR OF DESTINY
Al Bundy
QUOTE(Harpie Lady @ Apr 6 2006, 10:35 PM) [snapback]1136611[/snapback]

[b]HE KILLED HIMSELF BECAUSE HE LOST THE SPEAR OF DESTINY


This is mentioned also in the movie Constantine.
Harpie Lady
he killed himself because he lost THE SPEAR OF DESTINY...............
Al Bundy
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bosnian
I found something new, and there is te words about that Hitler's ones are moved to the Russia, and Russian government know EGATCLY where Hitler bones is????

Your opinio on this??
hamellr
QUOTE(bosnian @ Nov 5 2005, 10:51 AM) [snapback]917305[/snapback]

Have you got any fact that proves Hitler is not killed him self??

For people who know former yugoslavian leader, most succefull leader, did they know that TITO on his left hand has only 4 fingers. one he lose while he was mashinist. Tito what we know from our TV and from life has all fingers on both hands.

I am waiting for your facts!

[edited topic title to make it make sense - Tommy]


Google is your friend: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler%27s_death

Hardly the most authoritive source, but there is a long list of documentation at the bottom.
SecondHeartbeat
wait one minute,hitler only had one testicle?dear god
Tommygunner
Hitler and his wife Eva Braun were found outside the bunker in a shallow grave. Eva had been shot in the head and Hitler had taken poison. An aide then poured accelerant on the bodies, probably petrol, and burned them. Perhaps today, with our knowledge of DNA those bones could be tested, unless of course the Russians have ground them down for fertilizer.
Pilgrim_Shadow
QUOTE(Tommygunner @ Apr 21 2006, 08:12 PM) [snapback]1158287[/snapback]

Perhaps today, with our knowledge of DNA those bones could be tested, unless of course the Russians have ground them down for fertilizer.


I don't see how Stalin would have time to grind Hitler's bones into fertilizer, what with his busy schedule of grinding the Russian people's bones into fertilizer...

-Pilgrim
fantazum
QUOTE(bosnian @ Nov 5 2005, 11:51 AM) [snapback]917305[/snapback]

Have you got any fact that proves Hitler is not killed him self??

For people who know former yugoslavian leader, most succefull leader, did they know that TITO on his left hand has only 4 fingers. one he lose while he was mashinist. Tito what we know from our TV and from life has all fingers on both hands.

I am waiting for your facts!

[edited topic title to make it make sense - Tommy]


A long time ago in Britain there was a story that Hitler escaped Berlin and with many supporters fled to Argentina. The story continues to claim that Hitler settled in a small village In southern Argentina called Bariloche and with many other germans built a successful town and holiday resort. Bariloche actually was built by german settlers and in the period 1946-60 developed into a successful holiday and ski resort and is still very wealthy.
SecondHeartbeat
on easter,i seen a dude walking down the street,with long brown hair,he looked exactly like jesus,so he really did resurrect,sorry for the random post,won't happen again
bosnian
QUOTE(fantazum @ Apr 22 2006, 03:01 AM) [snapback]1158361[/snapback]

A long time ago in Britain there was a story that Hitler escaped Berlin and with many supporters fled to Argentina. The story continues to claim that Hitler settled in a small village In southern Argentina called Bariloche and with many other germans built a successful town and holiday resort. Bariloche actually was built by german settlers and in the period 1946-60 developed into a successful holiday and ski resort and is still very wealthy.


Interesting! thanks mate
Blue_army
QUOTE(The Silver Thong @ Nov 5 2005, 10:11 PM) [snapback]917905[/snapback]



i dont think that hitler killed himself. i think that the russions got ther 1st stormed in and burned him and also there wasnt any camras in the room wen he kielled himself. the russions r just throwing things up so they trick america and thats y the cold war happend OVER SOME LIES
Abstract_Mind
wacko.gif Considering the evidence that Hitler wanted his body to be burned after he supposedly shot himself in the head as he bit down on a cyonide glass tablet....

To me the only reason as to why someone wanted their body to be burned by people who wouldnt get the job down properly... would be someone who was desperate enough to hide some evidence. Evidence that the body did not belong to Hitler.


Another reason to add on here.

Eva Braun, as she did not shoot herself, instead took the poison, on the table in front of her lay the gun. the poison causes convulsions, so, after hitler bitten down on the tablet he would not have the ability to shoot himself in the temple, the poison does work that fast.
Eva Braun could not shoot herself.

so, perhaps, the body that lay in hitlers supposed spot, was shot first. then the shattered tablet was placed in his mouth, considering the glass shards found there.


Eva Braun was an obsessive with Hitler, but did not like her, he only saw her as an object of good use for his fake death...

as he married her at the last minute of defeat, I mean, if you really love someone that much you would want to be with them forever and ever as soon as possible, as with Eva Braun being with him all the time, but Hitler not doing so.

he thought that if he killed her and placed her beside an identical body of his, people would think that the body really did belong to hitler, because if not, then Eva Braun wouldnt be there.

Plus, Eva Braun tried to kill herself several times before, because Hitler didnt talk to her as much anymore.
Teslasparkgap
Be back later, just posting to find later.

Ok did not read all the posts above so do not know if this is a repeat.

I'll say from 50 years of media such as movies and tv programs
and new dots (nd) that are added to the connection of dots we believe in.
(nd: from Lyns's books and alt media web pages)
link to web page story

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9. Howard Hughes "Glomar Explorer" was built to retrieve the 24 scuttled German U-Boats, before terrorists or unfriendly governments found and retrieved the subs, missiles, bombs, and related technology, and because the WW II German U-boats were powered by a type of magnetic-electric generator (invented by an American named Dort of Virginia) which was superior to nuclear power. Further details about the German 'ship', the Graf Zeppelin are included in this book; Adolf and Eva (Braun) Hitler were daringly rescued from the Berlin Bunker by flying saucer, piloted by test pilot Hanna Reitsch and long distance flight expert Hans Ultich Rudel. The couple were later protected by the secret amnesty agreement, live their remaining lives under protection of the N.A.T.O. alliance, in Kassel, Germany, ironically the home of an international monument to the Holocaust. The "Hitlers" even visited America on the invitation of L.B.J. to visit "Hemisfair", the World's fair at San Antonio, Texas, in 1967.


From an ex soldier who was in Germany: every guy I saw looked like Hitler

fromfiftyearsofmedia: Hitler had doubles, so why not down to dental records.

nd: the idea that rescue took place due to hidden deal that brought Von Braun
to America and left advanced jet technology with the Russians that resulted in
the MIG over Korea.

Granted we did not know of that technonlogy or where it was and it would
upset the Russians.

I have to add in number 6. Cause a Hiustory Channel spot had the story of
the last U boat captured. It had uranium on it. It mentioned that the rest of
the followedf orders and sunk themselvs.

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6. The German navy surrounded the U.S. with 24 U-boats, armed with (V-6?) I.C.B.M.s, having celestial guidance systems, and armed with neutron bomb warheads, trained on key American cities and centers, in a 1945 stalemate; German Admiral Karl Doenitz negotiated a secret truce and amnesty agreement with American authorities, under which he was required to order all 24 U-boats "...scuttled, with all hands on board...", under the agreement, pursuant to which Nazi skippers opened the hatches and the subs and all men on board went to the bottom. Under Operation Paperclip, all Nazi scientific research materials, most of their important scientists, and the "KT-p2 Projekt" technology, were transferred to the U.S. and to the Trilateral Commission corporations, thus attempting to insure that the Illuminati would retain control of the materials. Certain unusual security procedures were initiated to insure this, including the "sacrificing" of some major German scientists to the Soviets, to plant misinformation, and to insure that the hoax was successful.



Yes, but that is what the media tells us. Did they go back to bases where we would
take their weapons.

And 7.
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7. During the war, German scientists bypassed development of the "atom bomb", and built and tested the neutron bomb. German field marshall Erwin Rommel and the Afrika Korps were originally sent to North Africa to test the neutron bomb, as well as Tesla's "death ray" (which freezes whole armies); this technology was acquired by American corporations, held chiefly by David Rockefeller, and was later sold in part back to the U.S. government and tested in the '60s, and the same technology was again sold to the U.S. government again in the '70s and '80s, as "star wars" technology.


Again a PBS tv show tells us the Germans were nowhere near having the A bomb.
Years after the 50s we get big news of something called neutron bomb.

Alt history is fun, as long as it done with forever.
Thats it for now, can't bring anything else to the table.
The Council of Nine
Yes Hiltler did kill himself....at least the persona... Great Britain is currently going through exactly the same process as Germany did many years ago.obviously no one will admit it...the polls tell a different story.....
bosnian
If he killed his self, and he burned after, how is posible burn human body "just like that" without remaining parts or corps?

Dennison
Hitler had a few body doubles, but if he did kill himself, it would have been out of fear of what the Allies would do to his body, is why he would have had his crew burn his body. The good point is, that Hitler would be dead as of 2006 anyway.
bosnian
QUOTE(Dennison @ Apr 26 2006, 04:09 PM) [snapback]1164314[/snapback]

Hitler had a few body doubles, but if he did kill himself, it would have been out of fear of what the Allies would do to his body, is why he would have had his crew burn his body. The good point is, that Hitler would be dead as of 2006 anyway.



great answer, but I am interested in that is there something remain after. one single bone or something??
Felly
it's very interesting to see what IS fact and what has been TAKEN for fact by general consensus.
Lanton
QUOTE(The Council of Nine @ Apr 23 2006, 09:07 PM) [snapback]1160565[/snapback]

Yes Hiltler did kill himself....at least the persona... Great Britain is currently going through exactly the same process as Germany did many years ago.obviously no one will admit it...the polls tell a different story.....


Really, how so?
The Council of Nine
QUOTE(Lanton @ Apr 29 2006, 11:43 AM) [snapback]1167881[/snapback]

Really, how so?


A simple check on the BNP poll stats over the the last 4 years is a clear indication.

Not to worry Lanton i'm sure you find a sand pit to bury your head in.

Abstract_Mind
OK!! in the bunker, Hitler's exact words were, I DO NOT BELIEVE IN VICTORY, so therefore, he wasnt really insanely proud... mind you... so his suicide in my opinion is inconclusive
openmind1963
i saw a report about a month ago on either the learning or discovery channel which put forth the theory that hitler was driven in sane by syphillis!anyone else see that?it was a well
known fact he had parkinson's disease,and he was addicted to amphitameanes,but this was the first time i had ever heard the sob had terminal syphillis!by the way,he was a huge coward,and he no doubt killed himself.he tested the cynaide earlier on his beloved german
shepherd,Blondie,who it is said he loved more than any person!!!
David.Duchovny
The government would have us beleive a lot of untrue facts about Hitler, the truth is out there,

I beleive that Hitler was taken aboard an alien scoutship that were looking for nasty people to house in a musuem on the other side of the galaxy, he was frozen and is kept on display at -220 degrees c.
openmind1963
QUOTE(David.Duchovny @ May 2 2006, 10:44 PM) [snapback]1172129[/snapback]

The government would have us beleive a lot of untrue facts about Hitler, the truth is out there,

I beleive that Hitler was taken aboard an alien scoutship that were looking for nasty people to house in a musuem on the other side of the galaxy, he was frozen and is kept on display at -220 degrees c.



yeah the truth is out there,but it's easier to find when you drop acid is'nt it? grin2.gif
welcome aboard my friend. thumbsup.gif
Mr. Blonde
Sadly thats not the only Nazis in Spaceship's story Ive seen no.gif for shame
ferhat
I recomanded you a first book of Sem Osmanagich (From Masons to Mental Projections) where he is writing abaout Hitlers deth. He sad that Hitler is moved to the Antartic and he had very good proves...
Teslasparkgap
QUOTE(bosnian @ Apr 26 2006, 06:44 AM) [snapback]1164031[/snapback]

If he killed his self, and he burned after, how is posible burn human body "just like that" without remaining parts or corps?

Here is what the media tells us, via History Channel..mostly a British concoction.

The Russians found the body and buried it in secret location.

They dug him up recently and checked the jaw bone and teeth with dental records
and they say it is him.

So alt history might say he escaped and left body double behind right down to the
teeth. Its not that impossible.

The bigger lie might be the 25 German subs at wars end that went down under orders
to sink them selves. Yeah, believe that one.

The History Channel did a whole story on the last sub caught and summarily mentions
the wipe out of 25 subs with no follow up.

Did they stick their foot in it this time, or with no further mention be taken out
in a edit.

There has got to be more, like a deal was struck and the surrender was not
unconditional... for some.
Banovici - Bosnia
I dont think he killed him self.. why would he ?.. when he could just leave.. easy like others.. and probably get killed but what a hell.. eheh
StalingradK
He didn't want the dishonor to be killed or caught by those unworthy of him. Let's go way back when though.

Time: April 29th, 1945
Situation: Soviet Soldiers and Tanks storm the 2nd section of berlin which surrounds the governmental district where Hitler is hiding and commanding small groups of troops. The Russians completely enclose the perimiter of the area and sweeps in wave after wave of men and armor.

By April 24, there was no way a German militant would get out of Berlin alive.
MJB222
QUOTE(The Silver Thong @ Nov 5 2005, 03:15 PM) [snapback]917908[/snapback]

WoW can you say why you think this and provide a little just a little evidence/link hehe. He was not an alien thats crazy talk, a political master mind and psyco to boot, did you know he designed the very first volkswagon and called it for the people hence volkswagon.

Hitler didn't design the very first volkswagon hmm.gif , he did however hire the maker/designer of the volkswagon to assist him in making a nearly invincble tank (he called it a landship) that was unharmed by enemy attacks and airtight (to go on the bottom of rivers) codenamed "Mouse". It failed due to it's sheer size and weight.

I think Hitler killed himself. But there is also a theory that he died on a U-boat.
Boff
Theres a Maus (Mouse) in a tank museum in Russia. Such a sweet tank. It was actually Porche who made the tank.

http://www.tankmuseum.ru/images/pav6-9.jpg

While i wouldnt totally rule out the possibility that Hitler escaped somewhere, I pretty much agree that he shot himself in Berlin and was burned. I'm iffy about the idea the Russians found his body and has some of his skull fragments and jaw. I think they may be fake.
Master Sage
I say yes, because that souits me fine.
Jack Black
Do you think that someone who tried to mastermind the taking over of europe and indeed possibly the world, was simple enough not to have made a contingency plan for if he lost the war!! Lets be seroius now! Hiding away in a bunker at the end appears to go agaisnt everything he was doing.
den92
apparently he is still alive, living on the underside of our hollow earth and making clones of himself and UFOs

but the nazis did actually make UFOs
Nadal
Well, for a long time there was this rumour going around that Hitler was still in his safe house and he had sent the local butcher that looked like him to Berlin. Giving him orders, to order. Though, I'm not sure how it was disproven.
dani10
I don't think he killed himself, it's probably a cover up. My neighbor's dad was one of the most famous/important drug dealers in South America, and he was sent to prison where he supposedly "died" in a fire. Everybody thought he died there, it was aaall over the newspapers and newscasts, but it was all a lie, the ol' man was transferred somewhere else.. I think now he died but I'm not sure.
isis-999
Yes he did kill hiself or someone close to his size.. Its well known the russian's have the bones to hitler.....
Mr Ed
QUOTE(den92 @ Jun 2 2006, 06:35 PM) [snapback]1215164[/snapback]

apparently he is still alive, living on the underside of our hollow earth and making clones of himself and UFOs

but the nazis did actually make UFOs


I don't think he is alive, or living on the underside of hollow earth, but because his body isn't on display I think people will believe this for a very long time.

Even if his body was on display I'm pretty sure some would still find a way to prove that he was an alien hyrbrid who was in a civil partnership though.
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