hitler was a bastard.. i hate that guy... ive read some many books on him.... there was numberous attempts where HIS OWN men tried to kill him, but either it failed or he didnt show up..

the most famous was his second in command carried a bomb in a briefcase at a meeting he was supposed to attend with the top of the ranking ladder...

long story short.. his car broke down.. and he obviously didn't show up and BOOM the commander and the higher authorities died, trying to kill hitler..

another one in a train, and others i cant remeber them all..


but he did kill himself and his g/f because he knew the americans were there, and he knew hed get killed, he didnt want to turn himself in cause he knew hed die anyways.. so he took his own miserable life.

You heard the story that Hitler escaped somwhere in Antartica, Argentina?

I could see escaping to Argentina, but Antartica? Come on, get real!! Are you going to tell us that he's living in one of those scientific research bases out there? Ice Station Zebra maybe?

In constantine that dirty mexican guy finds it and hes got like superpowers lol I dont remember what happens after that though. I got the movie ill watch it again

<.< He didn't kill Eva. It wasn't his girlfreind, Eva Braun was his wife for one day. He begged her to be flown from Berlin to Munich. However, she refused and proclaimed that she'd stay with her love. She took a cyanide capsule and he shot himself from under the chin. Also, it wasn't the Americans that were coming in. It was the U.S.S.R (Russians.) By the time the Russians arrived at the Fuhrerbunker, Adolf and Eva were both dead and burned into ash by Adolfs officers. The Russians recovered the remains of Adolf and kept them as a "Death to Fascist" Also, the attempt to end his life with the breif case was kinda of a freak "Wow, I can't believe Adolf survived." notion. The officer walked into the room, placed the breifcase under the table and left. Within the new few moments the bomb went off as Adolf stumbled out. It turns out the breifcase being under the table saved his life. It erupted a beam which fell onto his back saving his life from the shrapnal. This making Adolf even more arrogant. He said as soon as he came out, "Even God wills I life to be Fuhrer!" With this, the officer and all of his associates were executed. Also, Adolf did not kill himself because he was afraid of his capture. He knew his fate would be of a brutal death just as killing himself. He'd rather die at his own hands with dignity than be captured and have the "Communist Infidels." take pride into killing the Fascist Leader.

Interesting thoughts in here on this subject!
But I really dont care if the F*ker killed his self or not!
The good thing is he is dead.
But do any of you think on his ultimate race conquest that his team actualy found some rare artifacts?

Most likely, the Nazi's funded a lot of "Holy Grail" searches. They also sent expiditions into The Alps to study the tribes living there. Heinrich Himmler was trying to make the SS into the modern day Teutonic Knights and Templars. And when the Nazi's 'took over the world.' He'd extend his entire empire from a Castle that was the SS Base and training Academy during the war. You should research on this, it's very interesting. The History channel has a lot of such stuff on aswell.

Yep the Nazi's also had ideas for flying saucer-like vehicles towards the end of the war. It was supose to be a final effort made by the Nazis against the Americans. I saw this on an episode of "UFO FILES" on the history chanel last night. The original concept was completely round vehicles capable of traveling at the about the speed of sound that would be able to whipe out their enemies without being seen. They thought it would be the ultimate killing machine (and it probly would have been), but they wernt that successful. Just think though, Nazi's flying around in flying saucer's vaporizing people...? SPOOOOOOKY.



Original Concepts





I guess this is what they came up with

Wow!

I'm sure glad they failed! They would have made alien abductions and anal probing like a Disney ride...

Makes you think what kind of sophisticated weaponry the U.S. has been concocting in Area 51 these past decades?

I'd be interested in seeing what they actually found that they aren't telling anybody about...

Interestingly enough, there's evidence to suggest that the Nazis did, in fact, succeed in developing and successfully testing 'anti-gravity' propulsion systems. Who knows, perhaps the Americans, having got their hands on that technology at the war's end in '45, developed similar systems - that would certainly explain the flare-up in UFO sightings, beginning in the late 40s.

Hi. I have no factual evidence that Hitler commited suicide or survived world war 2.
But what i do know is human nature. I believe that it would have been human nature if hitler was found or caught to have been paraded alive or dead. There was no photographs taken of hitler when they supposidly found him.
Hitler didnt die in world war 2, they would had surely dragged his body in the streets on parade, just as the Iraq malitia do presently. When the U.S caught Sudam, Do u remember the images they showed at the first press confrence. A video of Sudam getting a physical with no doubt well paid iraqi people yelling and screaming in the front row. Not saying Sadam was a gentleman, but dont think for a second the U.S military didnt script the press confrence like a hollywood movie.
Hitler didnt escape either. Where would he go??? Probably nearly everyone in Europe would have known his face becasue of propaganda on tv and newspapers.

Sorry...rant alert lol. Point being a dead hitler would have been a trophy, presented to the world as a sign of victory.

I think Hitler was taken for the bunker quietly. No dount what they had in store for him wasnt legal so they made up a story that he was dead in the bunker. They would have questioned him about nazi technology and secrets. He was either tortured to death, later killed, or died in a damp dark jail.

Again, there is no proof or evidence to back up what im saying. This is purely my opinion based on logic. I mean, my evidence is just as good as the military that supposidly found him.
Oh yeah thats right.........They dont have any either

Interesting topic... keep it going... sadly, i dont have any info that i can add here...

Guy's yes Hitler killed hiself....I have heard all the stories about he fled to a mountain and lived to be a old man...But the Russian's had and still have his bone's....There was this thing between the Russian's and the USA.. but after the war Russia owned up to having the bone's and the Government still has them to this day....

Now about the bonb his officer's planeted....You have it wrong LE...the bomb was there that day and the officer who planted it left the room at which another oficer moved the bonb behind the leg of a huge soild wood table....When they bomb went off Hitler was not killed but many of his officer's where...It didn't take long for them to figure out who had the bomb sense he left the room and the ground's right before it went off... When he returned to Berlin he learned Hilter was not dead and and that he many of the other SS was to be round up and killed.....


PS>... about a dozen officer's lost their live's in that attempt to exacute Hilter......

There is no way in..... that he would let anybody take him down, if he was going down.. he killed himself.... definatley

I basicly posted the same as you.. im sorry, i didn't notice your post :s

The part about him killing himself cause he knew he was a dead man.. that's the part i copied basicly.. sorry.

The part about him killing himself cause he knew he was a dead man.. that's the part i copied basicly.. sorry.

oh god.. sorry again... i didnt notice it double posted.. sorry guys for wasteing space.. again..

When I was six I met a man that spent 13 years in a Soviet Gulag. He was one of Hitlers personal SS guards and was at the bunker when Hitler killed himself. If he believes that hitler killed himself then that is good enough for me.

LOL, BANNED!


And dont bring up old topics.

Many current historians feel Hitler was murdered. Because, of the lack of evidence that he used the now traditional Cyanide ingestion. There were too many details subscribed into the philosophy of his ultimate demise.
That he courageously ended his being, rather than be humiliated by captors, would indicate a 'general breakdown' in the Bunker, as Berlin fell. There was only a piece of skull left from the derogatory burning of his body, and no viable witness that saw him commit his own atrocity.

It has been observed, repeatedly, when things go bad: People panic. Most likely this act was undertaken by a subsidiary; whom felt that it was his place to save his/her own "skin". Blame the head figure, and make good your escape, so to speak.

It's a phenomenon well established even in modern day dramatic news coverage. With the Blackwater Soldiers being vilanized, so they might etch out an existence in this (US) society where sustaining the will of life is of the most importance. Despite that they will surely be ridiculed: "Stay AWAY!" is the message given. As, they surely fled the desert when the green zone was re-defined.

In my opinion, Hitler was murdered by someone who saw their own destruction. And, simply put, blamed him for their own destruction. And, lack of any measurable gain. As the enemy was not only at the gates, but crashing through...

Good enough for me..

Then why does the topic of Jesus keep popping up. Talk about old topics LOL. Hitler, well as long as he's dead, I'm happy.

I don't think that Hitler comitted suicide in his bunker because he was a madman.

As he was a madman I suspect Hitler had done one of the following -
1. Homosexuality
2. Attempted suicide
3. Sold his soul

I think it might even be a combination.

I suspect that when Hitler went through the homeless years he found himself in a desperate situation. I think after many years of living as a tramp he had begun to come apart mentally and had abandoned all hope in the world. At this point I think he either tried to top himself or had sold his soul out of desperation. In fact I think he did both.

I think that what proceeded with all the war, the genocide and killing was as a direct consequence of that moment. I think he had gone mad and would have done anything to get his soul back and place in heaven. Hitler was in essence like a drowning man clutching at a straw.

So why would he have topped himself?
This was one seriously crazy powermad dude. He would have carried on until he got a bullet in the head.

I think he was either murdered with the said bullet or is still at large. Perhaps he's in Iran.

First of all, what exactly does homosexuality have to do with being a madman? You're comparing gays to Hitler??? Secondly...still at large??? The man was born April 20, 1889!! You expect a 118 year old man to be running around in Iran??? I'm not sure which one of these theories bothers me more, but I genuinely hope you are kidding on both counts.

IMO, Hitler did indeed take his own life. His megalomania would have prevented him from ever being captured and brought to trial.

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Hitler was known for persecuting inner weakness he and other's suffered. Homosexuals in the Reich were murdered. Because, of immorality. Oft, they we used for technical gatherings of weapons info. This is true.
The mentally challenged were used to vamp Nazi Germany's attempt at mass-murder super-bomb. Poisonous gases and other methods were tested on them.
The decrepit, unsuitable for service due to drunkenness, drug use, whatever; were intentional injured. So as to model viable treatments for battlefield injury.

It's become common knowledge now that Hitler invested in personal drug use. A concoction of synthetic drugs, opiates, and cocaine. He also had in his blood line a Jewish Ancestor. A factor which should have excluded him from the Reich. Several of his undersecretaries were known to keep the company of male prostitutes.

This is where the term 'dogma' essentially stems. To strike at an inner weakness, by crushing those around you for 'known' problems, thereof. Therefore conquering your induced lack of will, and losing all forms of inhibition along the way.

Along the path of Hitler being a madman; there's a very specific reason his political rallies dwindled in the later war years. Drug induced psychosis led him to believe all were enemies, especially the ones that were actually plotting against him. He was very unstable, and after his 2nd assassination attempt, he was eventually ineffective as a leader. This was seen in the shift of his cabinet, were propaganda focused instead on popular culture of the war. Hitler's Youth, Gestapo, and the Luftwaffe support-in materials, and aiding a downed pilot.

Some of the archival footage where he is shown leading a march through Munich, while the Allies were about 40 miles away, shows that even though the sound editors did well removing the artillery rounds striking, he was very much shaken at each one. Missing footage, about 20-30 seconds, indicates he might have even collapsed at one of these barrages. As, his demeanor greatly shifts, as does his dress.

The level of diaries indicating he had lost control from those around him, and the assassination attempts on him prior to his death seem to indicate he was 'pre-occupied'. Most likely delusional--in a shifted sense. Total speculation on my part, but the movements he ordered would indicate that for part of the day, victory was imminent. The rest of the day, where others had to assume on his previous orders, he was most likely somewhere in solitude, for his protection.

ON history channel it was reported that Hitler had a STD from a prostitute..

That applys to this topic how?

Where do I even start? You say you don't think Hitler would commit suicide - then say he tried to? And homosexuals are insane? And you think selling his soul is a logical assumption?

...and that a 118 year old former drug abuser would still be alive...in Iran.

This forum really depresses me sometimes.



Hitler was alleged to have syphilis, which can cause dementia in its later stages.

Raven, I believe that was indicated towards my earlier post, and the other posts on morality. When studying the course of re-told history, sometimes you have to delve into personal nature of the subject at hand.

With the predominance of concubines during that era, it was quite a common tactic for those in that position to become intentionally infected, to spread a debilitation. Prostitute or otherwise, it is valid. He sought treatment, after entering into the later stages of Syphilis. It began to indicate that limited his mobility.

No... Vin Diesel went super sayin on his ass!

Well as we can only truly speculate, and not give definite proof.

If Hitler did survive, do you think he would be quiet and live low-profiled until he died of old age? Being that he wrote one book, I would think that he would have at least wrote a second on how he avoided his capture and what he thought of the new world after WW2.
However since we have nothing confirming Hitler's life post WW2, we can be sure to assume he is dead. If not, he is already dead from old age as he would be 118 years of age (in April 2007).

So what I'm saying is the only proof we have is that he didn't write another book (which in my opinion, he would have done) and no one has published any new book in the guise of Hitler (would be worth a few $$$ for the publisher)

There's a fantastic episode in the jungles of Brazil. Where there are monuments to those escaping through the sought of El Dorado in formal fashion. These 'fascists' are, indeed, spread, preserved, upon the ground.
This is documented. Visually. In many efforts of embracing the totalitarian government rule. They went there for escape. And found it, among the feeding animals... As, of a course, I do so often cast a thought of observation...


Well, then....

There is a good fictional novel on this very subject that people who are interested in this topic might like to read. The novel is The Berkut by Joseph Heywood. It starts off in the final hours of the bunker and how Hitler fakes his suicide which makes it kinda plausable. It follows his escape from Berlin and where he goes. It also takes the point of view of a Russian special operations unit that gets specific instructions from Stalin to hunt down Hitler. There is also an OSS officer from America that is looking for German scientists that stumbles across the chase. The ending is incredible and the book will really make anyone ponder whether it could have happened. I hope you read it and get as much enjoyment as I did... cheers

I'll read that book then.

Rumors started to circulate about a double for Hitler. He was supposed to be a total look-alike, and he was trained to "be" Hitler and was supposedly going to die a martyr’s death on the battlefield so that Hitler could be glorified without dying. - New York Times 19 April 1945.

I remember reading an artical about hitler and his death, it stated that hitler did commit suicide by taking his pill, at the time for a german officer to commit suicide with a suicide pill he did it with honor but to shot yourself it was cowardness,the russians found the body and burned it and claimed he shot himself so the german army would think their leader was coward. they later went back dug up the body so it could not be used as a martars grave, when the USSR fell they found a part of a skull claimed to be of Hitler, the last i heard they where going to do DNA tests with the remains of known hitler's E.G. his father and mother.
I think he did kill himself he was not stupid and he knew because he lost he would be the most hated man in the world,

My ex (well, kind of my ex, we weren't officially going out but..) anyway, she would know this. But I do not. She knows just about everything there is to know about Hitler and World War II and all that good stuff.