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Sasha_S8
Hey, this topic is for people to chat about derek! dont join if you think he is fake because i am sick of people saying he is fake i will never ever think he is fake never

thanx

sash x
Paranoid Android
Howdy. Apart from the fact that there are other Derek Acorah threads here, didn't you post something almost exactly like this a couple of days ago? I can't find it, so I'm assuming it's been deleted or merged by the mods. De ja vu? Or maybe I really can tell the future.

Regards, PA
Sasha_S8
QUOTE(Paranoid Android @ Nov 6 2005, 12:25 PM) [snapback]918632[/snapback]

Howdy. Apart from the fact that there are other Derek Acorah threads here, didn't you post something almost exactly like this a couple of days ago? I can't find it, so I'm assuming it's been deleted or merged by the mods. De ja vu? Or maybe I really can tell the future.

Regards, PA


hmmm i am trying to think...i dont think i did, either that or im losing my memory!!! haha
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343 Guilty Spark
Why do you see him as being a fan over.
Paranoid Android
Hmm, I thought I did see a thread started by you. If you didn't, maybe my memory's not so good anymore. It happens when you get to my age tongue.gif
Beckys_Mom
There isn't too many responding, does this mean everyone else believes he is not for real? huh.gif
Sasha_S8
QUOTE(343 Guilty Spark @ Nov 6 2005, 05:04 PM) [snapback]918802[/snapback]

Why do you see him as being a fan over.


Because he is a great genuine person!!! And he is not fake...Everything he does is great!!!
Richdog
Fine if you like the guy a lot... seems more like a teenage crush to me, albeit a tad obsessive.

The show has been proven fake, it was in the news recently as being completely set-up and staged.

When you get older you may start to see things with less rose-tinted spectacles. original.gif
XSAS
So I am only allowed to post here if I have anything positive to say about Derek?

The guy is a conman and his show has been proven to be fake, everything is set up and staged like a theatre production. I can't see any logical reason why this thread is still here as there seem to be a few discussions on Derek going already?

Sasha_S8
Well you can all think what you like!!! But i am his fan and i am going to be his fan forever!! yes.gif
Richdog
QUOTE(Sasha_S8 @ Nov 8 2005, 01:31 PM) [snapback]921845[/snapback]
But i am his fan and i am going to be his fan forever!! yes.gif


And you say you're not obsessed? Wow... i'd hate to see it when you really do get hung up on something then. laugh.gif

Just out of interest can I ask your age?
Paranoid Android
QUOTE(Richdog)
And you say you're not obsessed? Wow... i'd hate to see it when you really do get hung up on something then. laugh.gif


I remember reading an article on this. Specifically how the English seem to be so much more obsessed with stars and VIP's than any other country. David Beckham was their case-study, but I guess it could apply to Derek Acorah too.

I agree with XSAS though. I see no reason for this thread to actually be here.

Regards, PA

reiki_lady
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The show has been proven fake, it was in the news recently as being completely set-up and staged.


yeah right. by the Daily Mirror. oh yes, we believe what they say dont we? huh.gif

two words; photos. fake. do not necessarily read them in that order.
jeceris
QUOTE(Sasha_S8 @ Nov 8 2005, 11:52 AM) [snapback]921777[/snapback]

Because he is a great genuine person!!! And he is not fake...Everything he does is great!!!



he's not a geuine person, he IS a genuine fake.
and everthing he does is not so great, for instance he's not a great actor, cause everyone can see he's faking.
and if he dresses himself, the there's another thing he's not so good at.
when you come out of your delusion, i would be happy to discuss why the man and the show is a con.
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(jeceris @ Nov 8 2005, 06:01 PM) [snapback]922157[/snapback]

he's not a geuine person, he IS a genuine fake.
and everthing he does is not so great, for instance he's not a great actor, cause everyone can see he's faking.
and if he dresses himself, the there's another thing he's not so good at.
when you come out of your delusion, i would be happy to discuss why the man and the show is a con.


Oh the show is one big con if ever I saw one, but I still watch it just for ha ha's
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To to hear someone yell...."eeeekkk someone just touched me, I feel a headache coming on" ohmy.gif
Sasha_S8
QUOTE(reiki_lady @ Nov 8 2005, 05:08 PM) [snapback]922006[/snapback]

yeah right. by the Daily Mirror. oh yes, we believe what they say dont we? huh.gif

two words; photos. fake. do not necessarily read them in that order.


You took the words right outta my mouth thumbsup.gif
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(Sasha_S8 @ Nov 8 2005, 09:24 PM) [snapback]922563[/snapback]

You took the words right outta my mouth thumbsup.gif


The Mirror may have made that one mistake and the guy that printed the fake pics was fired, and I don't think The Mirror would want all of the same hassle all over again, besides from what I have read, it's not just the Mirror that have printed these claims unsure.gif

Some say - Don't believe everything you read, but then again some will say, don't believe everything you see on tv hmm.gif
Sasha_S8
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ Nov 9 2005, 12:39 AM) [snapback]922846[/snapback]

The Mirror may have made that one mistake and the guy that printed the fake pics was fired, and I don't think The Mirror would want all of the same hassle all over again, besides from what I have read, it's not just the Mirror that have printed these claims unsure.gif

Some say - Don't believe everything you read, but then again some will say, don't believe everything you see on tv hmm.gif


very true!!! When i say things i dont meen for people to get affended by them i am just sticking up for derek because i am his fan...say someone admired the lead singer from a band and people were called him ugly they would stick up for him even if he was ugly...and this situation is the same! Sorry to anyone i have offended! dontgetit.gif
Piper xx
Sasha, if Derek isn't fake than can you explain the incidents in which he has been CAUGHT and PROVEN to be cheating?

How can he be a genuine person if he fakes things?

This is a man you have never met and obviously know very little about, have you ever been to Derek Acorah's official forum, judging by the your posts that I've read, I get the feeling you'd be very happy on there
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Just because he didn't push your friend into cheating doesn't mean he never has. Think about it, the pressure of coming up with acurate and interesing information each time for Most Haunted, even if he is a genuine medium, would become hard to deal with, what if there was little spirtual activity, viewers don't want to hear about a little housewife who had a relatively boring, simple life.

I think Derek does have some ability, but I do believe he has cheated, on more than one occasion, due to the evidence stacked against him. If the allegations are untrue where is press statement or explaination to show he didn't cheat?
Sasha_S8
QUOTE(Piper xx @ Nov 9 2005, 04:17 PM) [snapback]923796[/snapback]

Sasha, if Derek isn't fake than can you explain the incidents in which he has been CAUGHT and PROVEN to be cheating?

How can he be a genuine person if he fakes things?

This is a man you have never met and obviously know very little about, have you ever been to Derek Acorah's official forum, judging by the your posts that I've read, I get the feeling you'd be very happy on there
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Just because he didn't push your friend into cheating doesn't mean he never has. Think about it, the pressure of coming up with acurate and interesing information each time for Most Haunted, even if he is a genuine medium, would become hard to deal with, what if there was little spirtual activity, viewers don't want to hear about a little housewife who had a relatively boring, simple life.

I think Derek does have some ability, but I do believe he has cheated, on more than one occasion, due to the evidence stacked against him. If the allegations are untrue where is press statement or explaination to show he didn't cheat?


yes actually, and i havent met him yet but i will be meeting him in 15 days and my good friend grown up with derek and they both went to the same spiritualist church together so get your facts right about derek...and i do know stuff about derek i know quite alot about him!
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Piper xx
If you know so much about him why can't you answer my questions? I also find that extemely rude, you can take the time to reply but can't say anything constructive.

Prove he hasn't cheated then I will believe his is genuine.

So far you are just ranting, "I know Derek is geuine, my friend knew him", if that is the only response you have I don't think I even believe you know someone who knew him.

You also say KNEW him, how do you know he hasn't changed, and the pressure of needing to entertain people hasn't forced him to cheat on occasions?

Please this time could you answer my questions otherwise I am wasting my time original.gif
Piper xx
QUOTE(reiki_lady @ Nov 8 2005, 04:08 PM) [snapback]922006[/snapback]

yeah right. by the Daily Mirror. oh yes, we believe what they say dont we? huh.gif

two words; photos. fake. do not necessarily read them in that order.


Well Ciaran has told 'Bad Psychics' that he was not misquoted by the Mirror and what was printed is exactly what he said.

Just click on the link below and read this weeks commentary to see for yourself, the Mirror hasn't even twisted his words:

Bad Psychics
gollo
if the beloved derek is not a fake, could any of his followers explain why he was possessed by a fictional anagram?
Sasha_S8
QUOTE(Piper xx @ Nov 9 2005, 04:26 PM) [snapback]923808[/snapback]

If you know so much about him why can't you answer my questions? I also find that extemely rude, you can take the time to reply but can't say anything constructive.

Prove he hasn't cheated then I will believe his is genuine.

So far you are just ranting, "I know Derek is geuine, my friend knew him", if that is the only response you have I don't think I even believe you know someone who knew him.

You also say KNEW him, how do you know he hasn't changed, and the pressure of needing to entertain people hasn't forced him to cheat on occasions?

Please this time could you answer my questions otherwise I am wasting my time original.gif


Look i believe what i want to believe, ok? I personally think derek is genuine and not fake, it doesnt meen you have to believe that does it...im sorry to be extremely rude to you aswell!!! original.gif what i have heard about derek is good enough for my to believe he is not fake! rolleyes.gif
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Sasha_S8 @ Nov 9 2005, 12:05 PM) [snapback]924023[/snapback]

Look i believe what i want to believe, ok? I personally think derek is genuine and not fake, it doesnt meen you have to believe that does it...im sorry to be extremely rude to you aswell!!! original.gif what i have heard about derek is good enough for my to believe he is not fake! rolleyes.gif

I am curious. It doesn't bother you that they staged alot of that program??
Piper xx
My point is you keep repeating he is genuine when he has been proven to have cheated.
Do you just have blind faith and ignore evidence and proof he has cheated.

Genuine is the opposite of fake, and Derek has been proven to have cheated, so how is he genuine?

This has been proved, nip over to bad psychics please and see how badly he has been proven to had faked.

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BCJim
QUOTE(Piper xx @ Nov 9 2005, 10:36 AM) [snapback]924056[/snapback]

My point is you keep repeating he is genuine when he has been proven to have cheated.
Do you just have blind faith and ignore evidence and proof he has cheated.

Genuine is the opposite of fake, and Derek has been proven to have cheated, so how is he genuine?

This has been proved, nip over to bad psychics please and see how badly he has been proven to had faked.

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LOL Piper i think ur on a lost cause here original.gif

if it matters at all...I agree wit u

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Sasha_S8
QUOTE(Piper xx @ Nov 9 2005, 07:36 PM) [snapback]924056[/snapback]

My point is you keep repeating he is genuine when he has been proven to have cheated.
Do you just have blind faith and ignore evidence and proof he has cheated.

Genuine is the opposite of fake, and Derek has been proven to have cheated, so how is he genuine?

This has been proved, nip over to bad psychics please and see how badly he has been proven to had faked.

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even if he has been proven fake whatever anyone says im never gonna believe he is fake because in my eyes he's not fake!!!i have and what they say about kreed kafer or whatever it was called was lie's!!! i can think what i like at the end of the day original.gif
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(Piper xx @ Nov 9 2005, 06:36 PM) [snapback]924056[/snapback]

My point is you keep repeating he is genuine when he has been proven to have cheated.
Do you just have blind faith and ignore evidence and proof he has cheated.

Genuine is the opposite of fake, and Derek has been proven to have cheated, so how is he genuine?

This has been proved, nip over to bad psychics please and see how badly he has been proven to had faked.

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Piper there is nothing that any one of us could say that would make Sasha change her views on Derek, and I know you are not trying to get her to do so, you are after all pointing out a few obvious things to her.
The questions you are asking have put her on the spot, because she doesn't want to think anything negative about him, therefore chooses not to answer. She knows if she where to answer, there is no evidence she could use to prove her point, so it's best to let her be

But you have to remember she is just a kid, and as I cast my mind back that far (without sounding too old blink.gif ) I too used to believe in a number of things I saw on tv, and like I said before, years passed and when I looked back I was able to have a good laugh about it all.

Sasha will sooner or later snap out of it, so in the mean time, I think it's best to let her keep believing wacko.gif
Sasha_S8
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ Nov 9 2005, 11:29 PM) [snapback]924522[/snapback]

Piper there is nothing that any one of us could say that would make Sasha change her views on Derek, and I know you are not trying to get her to do so, you are after all pointing out a few obvious things to her.
The questions you are asking have put her on the spot, because she doesn't want to think anything negative about him, therefore chooses not to answer. She knows if she where to answer, there is no evidence she could use to prove her point, so it's best to let her be

But you have to remember she is just a kid, and as I cast my mind back that far (without sounding too old blink.gif ) I too used to believe in a number of things I saw on tv, and like I said before, years passed and when I looked back I was able to have a good laugh about it all.

Sasha will sooner or later snap out of it, so in the mean time, I think it's best to let her keep believing wacko.gif


i wont snep out of it sooner or later tongue.gif i dont want to and i do have proof but no one believes me rolleyes.gif
The Skeptic Eric Raven
It is almost like she is in a Derek cult and no one can question Derek's authority.
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(Sasha_S8 @ Nov 9 2005, 10:32 PM) [snapback]924526[/snapback]

i wont snep out of it sooner or later tongue.gif i dont want to and i do have proof but no one believes me rolleyes.gif


Oh ok then shoot...What proof do you have?

And I don't mean, your friend met him ect ect...I want real proof
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The Skeptic Eric Raven
I have a 13 year old daughter. I would be a little scared if she was obsessed like this. sad.gif
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Nov 9 2005, 10:36 PM) [snapback]924534[/snapback]

I have a 13 year old daughter. I would be a little scared if she was obsessed like this. sad.gif

Yes I saw your daughter pic and might I add, she is gorgeous, you are going to have your hands full when she is older & the boys come a knocking on your door grin2.gif

I checked out your album back on the photo gallery thread...hope you dont mind original.gif
XSAS
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Nov 9 2005, 10:36 PM) [snapback]924534[/snapback]

I have a 13 year old daughter. I would be a little scared if she was obsessed like this. sad.gif


I fully agree.
bigalan
Derek Acorah has let a lot of people down. Keiren O Keiffe was right to expose him to the Daily Mirror as a psychic fraud - and his Bodmin Jail 'possession' by a psuedo South African jailer Kreed Kafer - juggle the words - and you get Derek
Faker. (Fed to him unknowingly via one of the crew - but devised as a carrot test by Mr O' Keiffe, Parapsychologist)

I feel dismayed and let down by his self-defacing exit from Most Haunted. There is little doubt though that he memorised dates and facts prior to appearing in episodes of most haunted - and got them badly confused and wrong on occasions. It's sickening that Derek Acorah can stoop so low as to defraud life after death and spirituality. Lets hear what you've got to say Derek Acorah - there's a lot of unanswered questions. ph34r.gif
fawkes2
QUOTE(Sasha_S8 @ Nov 9 2005, 04:32 PM) [snapback]924526[/snapback]

i wont snep out of it sooner or later tongue.gif i dont want to and i do have proof but no one believes me rolleyes.gif



QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ Nov 9 2005, 04:34 PM) [snapback]924530[/snapback]

Oh ok then shoot...What proof do you have?

And I don't mean, your friend met him ect ect...I want real proof
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waiting to hear the proof........... hmm.gif
Fluffybunny
Does anyone here see any reason to keep this thread open? In going through it, all I see is the same thing said over and over again; it doesn't appear that anyone is going to be changing their opinion anytime soon.

Unless someone has any reason to keep this going, I think that there are plenty enough derek threads for sasha to post in...
XSAS
QUOTE(Fluffybunny @ Nov 10 2005, 06:52 AM) [snapback]925286[/snapback]

Does anyone here see any reason to keep this thread open? In going through it, all I see is the same thing said over and over again; it doesn't appear that anyone is going to be changing their opinion anytime soon.

Unless someone has any reason to keep this going, I think that there are plenty enough derek threads for sasha to post in...


I requested 2 pages ago to close this thread.. we already have 2/3 Derek discussions going.
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