yes, this year should be remembered forever but forgotten because they don't wanna believe.

1917, it was raining for days, everything wet.

ok now, this is all true it was in newspapers, everybody saw this, kids, buddists, jewish people, everybody.

so anyway, they sun was just started spinning, and spinning when it started getting bigger and bigger then it was so close to the earth it was huge, but it didn't hurt anybody's eyes really only a little, and there was a figure of someone, and a woman's voice said " there will be many wars in the future, if we all do not pray and love God. There is going to be a world warII" something along those lines, she predicted all of this stuff to the people, and nobody could see her but 3 children and said it was a woman, the sun went back and everything was dry, no more rain and people all over the town saw this and believed in this.

This Woman was the blessed mother also known as Mary Jesus's mother.

you probably can't find this online, because it's probably been covered up like they won't let people look for Noah's ARK.

this probably sounds like wack messed up but it isn't. there are newspapers with them in it.

before you all say "the sun would have burnt the whole WORLD up and messed up the orbit"

have you also forgotten that King of kings, and Lord of Lords can control whatever he made? kinda like how we can make clay any shape we want. He made and he can alter it.

.....did you just exhaust the world supply of opium of something like that?

Are you sure this was in 1917?

I think he is talking about the reputed appearance of Mary to the three children of Fatima...........

I know to what he is refering; I just wasn't sure about the stellar oddity.

Yet us "mere humans" are capable of covering up his message? He is incapable of uncovering the coverup?

Does anyone ever stop to consider, that these "wonderous signs" that attributed to god, make a sham of the whole 'free will' angle everyone talks about?

Kind of defeats the purpose, dontcha think? Sort of like a pyschotic telling his mate "Sure, you're free to leave me anytime you want. But I'll kill you if you do....."

JMPD1!

To the topic starter: What the--

To everyone else: A sign is just a sign. You can still choose to ignore it.

...and then there were the folks who lined up in droves to see Mother Mary crying on the outside of an apartment building wall...and they believed.

To some it is/was just a weather oddity.....nothing more than a random pattern like the virgin mother or was it Jesus in a ten year old grilled cheese sandwich

Some people just have a need to believe in the supernatural!

I don't think it nullifies the concept of free will. I mean, assuming for a second what the thread creator said actually did happen, she said that if you don't start praying there will be many more wars...

So there is no lack of free will in the message.

Pray and there will be more peace.

Don't and there will be more wars.

Where is there no free will?

It's like a multiple choice question, just because you don't like the answers that you can choose from doesn't mean you are UNABLE to choose.

Is this another example of the violent religion known world wide as Christianity?

Well I simplified what was actually said, or reported to be said, whatever you want to call it.

"There will be many wars in the future, if we all do not pray and love God."

If everyone is praying, they will be too busy to fight a war

Side note: I do not pray very often.

I'm sorry that I must be the one to complain, but where is the source?

If the sun came really close to earth, then why didn't the whole world see it?

Not every one has the need to pray and not every religion prays!

As I asked: Is this another example of the violent religion known world wide as Christianity?



Valid question.....Where is it?

look it up, it was in the newspapers and everything, I think it was fatima or something like that.

1917, that was the year

God said "you have the free will to do whatever you want, choose the right way of life, you'll be rewarded, follow darkness, and go AGAINST me, you shall be thrown into hell."

you see, if we aren't with him, we're against him, and if you're against him you're evil, and even christians are evil, well they once were evil.

EVERYBODY was evil, or had sin at one time, and they still do, even the pope.

Some people beleive that is was in 1914 or 1917(I forgot) when God threw satan down onto Earth.

...why do they believe that?

Between May and October 1917, the Virgin Mary is said to have appeared to three shepherd children.

Our Lady of Fatima

could be interesting to Christians...