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Lady Warrior Ravynwynn
I recently had an experience, while asleep, that I have never had before, or heard of before. I usually dream in full color, and enjoy pretty wonderful things, with the average amount of psychologically, textbook interpretable stuff. This time, I was in complete darkness. No matter how hard I tried to see, I couldn't. A very pleasant, female voice was giving me what seemed to be a hypnotic suggestion. She was telling me to relax, each part of me, one thing at a time- just like relaxation tapes I've heard- and then, she was telling me that I was surrounded by water, and it was filling up the small area I was in. Then, she said that I was under water, and would not be able to breathe, but that it was ok, I should remain relaxed. She said that I needed to let go, and drown in the warm, peaceful water, and that death was far better than life...
I tried to wake up, but could only stop from suffocating, and not wake up all the way. This happened 2 more time, for a total of 3 times. Each time the alluring voice would start over again, step by step, and I'd let go a little more each time, then just jolt out of it, but not wake up to full consciousness. The third, and last, time, I remember going as far as feeling mud seep into my mouth and nose, tasting the dirt, and suffocating, while her voice coaxed me along, saying that the mud was filling me up with the water, and I would "absolutely enjoy slipping into death" this time. I woke up, feeling like I just slammed back into my body, coughing and choking, with the taste of the dirt still in my mouth, briefly, and very shaky. I immediately did my usual means of psychic protection, including invoking the Name of God, and slowly felt better, though very drugged. I scribbled notes about it, and eventually fell back to sleep.
What was this? It was not a dream, I can assure you, unless I've actually gone crazy and don't completely know it yet. I do not drinkor do drugs. I am like many people in my family, very sensitive, psychically, and have seen and dealt with many spirits, and Angels, of various kinds, in the past. I am used to the "wierd". Because of this, while in counselling, I have been evaluated, mentally, and been found to have a healthy, sound mind, and a very high intelligence. Yet, alas, though not schizophrenic, thank God, I am still "wierd".
I also have a very evil family member who is in to the very dark side of the occult, and tried to do various things to me when I was a teenager-many years ago, (ritualistic abuse and such). He was involved with a very creepy group of people who had money, and power. This family member now acts like nothing ever happened, of course. Due to the time period, and the influential people involved, I chose to break contact with him, long ago, and just heal. But, due to another family member coming forward, and telling us about things that they remember also, my mother recently had a very big confrontational conversation with the originally mentioned, evil family member on the phone, and said things that she probably shouldn't have for the safety of everyone involved. She said that she knows everything, and who he was affiliated with. He was furious, and yelled at her, and denied knowledge of any such happenings, and said that anyone remembering such things is insane, and "just...hurtful". Please. (I thought of these people, the day after the creepy-sleep-thing happened, while trying to figure things out.)
This "suggestive-dream-sequence" that I had, was a complete intrusion, as far as I'm concerned. It makes me mad and very unsettled. Maybe that was their motive? How could someone actually get into my sleep like that, and then stay with me, throughout the suggestion, coaxing, and starting over twice? It seems like someone is trying to get to me by means of psychic attack? But, I am not yet an expert. Any suggestions? Anyone had, or heard of, anything similar? Do I take further preventative methods, somehow?
I've seen protective suggestions on the internet, that are "spell-like"- you know, mirrors to bounce back curses and negativity, garlic, cut or in garlands,etc... I've never resorted to these kinds of things, and frankly, they don't seem to fit. But, I don't want to have a negative attitude, or put down that which I am ignorant of.
If these evil people from my past, (though many have died and are in prison, now), have decided to interfere with me, with such a horrible method- and they sure as hell didn't win- but I've definitely got the "creeps" about dealing with that type, and strength of dark power. I am battling an ongoing illness, and may be vulnerable at times. I am also a single mom of older teens, and alone at night, which has been boring and lonely, but fine for now, because of my illness. But, yes of course, I do have the inevitable cats.
Maybe it was just an evil spirit of some kind...I DON'T KNOW!
Any feedback is welcome! SOS! Soon!
I have never reached out like this, on something so wierd, and it feels not just a little- tres bizarre, as does my attempt to lighten the situation with dry humor, I'm sure...
Thank you for reading this.
Sincerely, Lady-Warrior Ravynwynn
Xenojjin
Yep , it can be done . I cant be sure if this is whats being done to you but it sure sounds like it . Its actually easier to do this attack on someone's mind in their sleep early in the morning when everyones starting to wake up . The hypnosis is virtually already there during that time of day , and all one needs is telepathy .
sublime_serenity75
Interesting topic. Very recently, I had an experience where in a dream, I was walking and then I felt that I was hit on the top of my head or that something fell on me. At the moment of this unexpected attack/contact, I jolted awake and had the same "slamming down" experience that Lady Warrior spoke of. Now I've had experiences where I've woken up a tadbit roughly or jolted awake, but this was something more...intense. ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif
Lady Warrior Ravynwynn
QUOTE(sublime_serenity75 @ Nov 10 2005, 07:24 PM) [snapback]926736[/snapback]

Interesting topic. Very recently, I had an experience where in a dream, I was walking and then I felt that I was hit on the top of my head or that something fell on me. At the moment of this unexpected attack/contact, I jolted awake and had the same "slamming down" experience that Lady Warrior spoke of. Now I've had experiences where I've woken up a tadbit roughly or jolted awake, but this was something more...intense. ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif


Look into the subject of "Astral" and "Out-of-Body Experiences" while asleep that a person can have consciously, and controlled, or unconsciously. What you describe sounds very familiar. I know someone that has described experiences of travelling "Out-of-Body", while asleep. This does explain alot of strange things that I, too, have experienced, while sleeping- except for the one I previously posted. -Lady Warrior Ravynwynn
Steve_from_Yellowstone
So you are saying if you have certain psychic abilities, and someone is trying to psychically attack you, the easiest way for them to do that, is with Telepathy in dreams. So if I usually dream in black and white, and hardly remember any details, but when someone can be using Telepathy, would it cause my dreams to be extremely vivid with color, as well as remembering every last detail.

Say if someone was trying to use telepathy, and I dreamed of gently floating in a cushion of water, as waves of a boat gently rock me back and forth across San Francisco bay, and then I am awoken by the feeling of cold water and something dragging me below - "glub glub!" and it was all in color, would that possibly be Telepathy?




QUOTE(Lady Warrior Ravynwynn @ Nov 10 2005, 11:28 AM) *
I recently had an experience, while asleep, that I have never had before, or heard of before. I usually dream in full color, and enjoy pretty wonderful things, with the average amount of psychologically, textbook interpretable stuff. This time, I was in complete darkness. No matter how hard I tried to see, I couldn't. A very pleasant, female voice was giving me what seemed to be a hypnotic suggestion. She was telling me to relax, each part of me, one thing at a time- just like relaxation tapes I've heard- and then, she was telling me that I was surrounded by water, and it was filling up the small area I was in. Then, she said that I was under water, and would not be able to breathe, but that it was ok, I should remain relaxed. She said that I needed to let go, and drown in the warm, peaceful water, and that death was far better than life...
I tried to wake up, but could only stop from suffocating, and not wake up all the way. This happened 2 more time, for a total of 3 times. Each time the alluring voice would start over again, step by step, and I'd let go a little more each time, then just jolt out of it, but not wake up to full consciousness. The third, and last, time, I remember going as far as feeling mud seep into my mouth and nose, tasting the dirt, and suffocating, while her voice coaxed me along, saying that the mud was filling me up with the water, and I would "absolutely enjoy slipping into death" this time. I woke up, feeling like I just slammed back into my body, coughing and choking, with the taste of the dirt still in my mouth, briefly, and very shaky. I immediately did my usual means of psychic protection, including invoking the Name of God, and slowly felt better, though very drugged. I scribbled notes about it, and eventually fell back to sleep.
What was this? It was not a dream, I can assure you, unless I've actually gone crazy and don't completely know it yet. I do not drinkor do drugs. I am like many people in my family, very sensitive, psychically, and have seen and dealt with many spirits, and Angels, of various kinds, in the past. I am used to the "wierd". Because of this, while in counselling, I have been evaluated, mentally, and been found to have a healthy, sound mind, and a very high intelligence. Yet, alas, though not schizophrenic, thank God, I am still "wierd".
I also have a very evil family member who is in to the very dark side of the occult, and tried to do various things to me when I was a teenager-many years ago, (ritualistic abuse and such). He was involved with a very creepy group of people who had money, and power. This family member now acts like nothing ever happened, of course. Due to the time period, and the influential people involved, I chose to break contact with him, long ago, and just heal. But, due to another family member coming forward, and telling us about things that they remember also, my mother recently had a very big confrontational conversation with the originally mentioned, evil family member on the phone, and said things that she probably shouldn't have for the safety of everyone involved. She said that she knows everything, and who he was affiliated with. He was furious, and yelled at her, and denied knowledge of any such happenings, and said that anyone remembering such things is insane, and "just...hurtful". Please. (I thought of these people, the day after the creepy-sleep-thing happened, while trying to figure things out.)
This "suggestive-dream-sequence" that I had, was a complete intrusion, as far as I'm concerned. It makes me mad and very unsettled. Maybe that was their motive? How could someone actually get into my sleep like that, and then stay with me, throughout the suggestion, coaxing, and starting over twice? It seems like someone is trying to get to me by means of psychic attack? But, I am not yet an expert. Any suggestions? Anyone had, or heard of, anything similar? Do I take further preventative methods, somehow?
I've seen protective suggestions on the internet, that are "spell-like"- you know, mirrors to bounce back curses and negativity, garlic, cut or in garlands,etc... I've never resorted to these kinds of things, and frankly, they don't seem to fit. But, I don't want to have a negative attitude, or put down that which I am ignorant of.
If these evil people from my past, (though many have died and are in prison, now), have decided to interfere with me, with such a horrible method- and they sure as hell didn't win- but I've definitely got the "creeps" about dealing with that type, and strength of dark power. I am battling an ongoing illness, and may be vulnerable at times. I am also a single mom of older teens, and alone at night, which has been boring and lonely, but fine for now, because of my illness. But, yes of course, I do have the inevitable cats.
Maybe it was just an evil spirit of some kind...I DON'T KNOW!
Any feedback is welcome! SOS! Soon!
I have never reached out like this, on something so wierd, and it feels not just a little- tres bizarre, as does my attempt to lighten the situation with dry humor, I'm sure...
Thank you for reading this.
Sincerely, Lady-Warrior Ravynwynn

Steve_from_Yellowstone
Heres another important question. Say if I had a bunch of paranormal type crap happening to me. Telepathy, clairsentience, clairaudience, and such... and I am being constantly attacked, where the normal tools of protection work a little but not much..... Pretty much I have come to recognize the wierd and unexplainable, as normal, no matter how ****ed up that sounds. How would I protect myself from such attacks, when I am doing something that could be life threatning. For example, for a while I was dealing with nasty choking and coughing associated with the taste and smell of ciggarette smoke, as if someone was attacking me to feel like I am smoking. What can I do to protect myself, if I were scuba diving and under 50 feet of water. How can I be sure that who ever is attacking me, will not try to do so when I am extremely vulnerable and at risk of spitting my regulator out of my mouth, and choking until I drowned? Or if I was say paragliding, and I am being attacked to steer the chute in a way that would make it collapse and I would plummet to the earth and die... How can someone protect themselves from such attacks, besides just sitting in a room away from anyone, or anything that could be dangerous?

That is my million dollar question, because I am being ****ed with every which way from Sunday, and the longer I go with no answers, the more withdrawn I am becoming, because withdrawing myself, is the only way I can protect myself right now... If I am not doing it, it cant hurt me, hence I dont do anything.... thats been my approach to all this psychic bull, that I am really coming to beleive in. I have cuts and scars, that form before my eyes, spelling out words and sh**, I have lost control over pain, pleasure, sight, sound, and I have had boat loads of medical tests telling me I am fine. I am being attacked by those that find me fascinating, but have little disregard or compassion for my safety and well being... I am virtuually a prisoner in my own world, because the only thing I can do, is sit alone in my safe place where I can expereience all the attacks, and not worry about them interfering with any social or physical activity. Where do I go from here to get the protection I need, for the day, and most importantly from the night when I am supposed to be resting and recovering, not dealing with only more tests and attacks.
Lotus Flower
Hi Lady Warrior original.gif

It does sound as if someone could be putting some sort of suggestion into your mind, as someone else mentioned, it is a lot easier to do that in sleep rather than in broad daylight when the "victim's" attention will be elsewhere in day-to-day life.

Whatever you do, do not try to battle with this person, by turning their power back upon themselves (or attmepting to), you are making yourself as bad as they are. Someone once informed me that praying for any bad vibrations that come your way and asking that that energy be used by God in whatever way He sees fit is a good way to pass anything bad on, without repercussions.

If you can imagine yourself surrounded by light, this will help protect you as well as mentally imagining a mirror facing away from you, it will reflect any bad vibrations away from you. Imagining brick walls have also been helpful to some people.

Salt is cleansing and can be helpful - I have heard of people that have sprinkled salt in doorways, whether it actually had real protection abilities or not, they believed it to be so and that may been all that was needed.

Have nothing whatsoever to do with this person, do not speak to them either in real life nor on the telephone, remove anything in your house that they may have given you, if indeed, you are in possession of anything they have handed over to you in the past.

I really am hoping that someone on this Site can come up with some really good methods to protect yourself, I am sure there are some here, let's hope they come forward.

All the best, let us know how you get on. Take care xx
Please Explain
QUOTE(Lady Warrior Ravynwynn @ Nov 10 2005, 11:28 AM) *
Any feedback is welcome! SOS! Soon!

Just clear up your mind and don't think about it no more.
But i doubt you're going to do this, you're very curious.
The142
If u can do things in your dream, the best thing to do is to sing when the voice comes.
Lotus Flower
QUOTE(The142 @ Aug 21 2007, 02:08 PM) *
If u can do things in your dream, the best thing to do is to sing when the voice comes.

You know, when I first read your reply The142, it sounded nutty laugh.gif

However, it is far from ridiculous and makes total sense. If someone is not taking any notice, there is nothing, no matter how hard the perpetrator tries that they can do. The person they are focussing on is just not paying attention and any attempt they make to attack them, may very well fall on deaf ears.

Singing would indeed be very frustrating for the attacker, it is definitely worth a try thumbsup.gif
Please Explain
QUOTE(Lotus Flower @ Aug 21 2007, 01:26 PM) *
Singing would indeed be very frustrating for the attacker, it is definitely worth a try thumbsup.gif

Ey! it's only good if you're alone on your bed,
otherwise your performance is only half lived like in American/Australian idol.




3rd rock resident alien
He will call you and will ask you if you remember.
Lotus Flower
QUOTE(3rd rock resident alien @ Aug 22 2007, 02:26 AM) *
He will call you and will ask you if you remember.

Who will call them and ask if they remember??
SatyamShivamSundaram
i shall e-mail this 2 you

-reguards...
Jake13
You could try a psionic shield..
http://www.psipog.net/art-psionic-shielding.html
Seems like it would work. Not really sure though. =p
Lady Warrior Ravynwynn
Excellent suggestions!
I also love imagining a windshield in front of me, and any crap that they throw my way, I just wipe away with the windshield wipers...


QUOTE(Lotus Flower @ Aug 21 2007, 05:43 AM) *
Hi Lady Warrior original.gif

It does sound as if someone could be putting some sort of suggestion into your mind, as someone else mentioned, it is a lot easier to do that in sleep rather than in broad daylight when the "victim's" attention will be elsewhere in day-to-day life.

Whatever you do, do not try to battle with this person, by turning their power back upon themselves (or attmepting to), you are making yourself as bad as they are. Someone once informed me that praying for any bad vibrations that come your way and asking that that energy be used by God in whatever way He sees fit is a good way to pass anything bad on, without repercussions.

If you can imagine yourself surrounded by light, this will help protect you as well as mentally imagining a mirror facing away from you, it will reflect any bad vibrations away from you. Imagining brick walls have also been helpful to some people.

Salt is cleansing and can be helpful - I have heard of people that have sprinkled salt in doorways, whether it actually had real protection abilities or not, they believed it to be so and that may been all that was needed.

Have nothing whatsoever to do with this person, do not speak to them either in real life nor on the telephone, remove anything in your house that they may have given you, if indeed, you are in possession of anything they have handed over to you in the past.

I really am hoping that someone on this Site can come up with some really good methods to protect yourself, I am sure there are some here, let's hope they come forward.

All the best, let us know how you get on. Take care xx

Lady Warrior Ravynwynn
I tried.
But you are right.
I am just too dang curious!


QUOTE(Please Explain @ Aug 21 2007, 05:57 AM) *
Just clear up your mind and don't think about it no more.
But i doubt you're going to do this, you're very curious.

Lady Warrior Ravynwynn
He he...

QUOTE(Please Explain @ Aug 21 2007, 07:46 AM) *
Ey! it's only good if you're alone on your bed,
otherwise your performance is only half lived like in American/Australian idol.


I'll read about the shield Jake.
Hopefully they have them at the $1 store...my finances are not so good right now...

Steve, I'll PM you.

AND, if this wierdness happens again I WILL sing!
I love to sing!

Oh, and 3rd Rock Alien, what the heck are you talking about?
Who's calling who?

And what happened to my awesome avatar?
I come back from being gone for a while with computer problems, and my cool warrior avatar is gone. Sheesh.


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