I was trying to learn TK a while ago. I had little success and found it to be confusing. I have found a better approach to this. I have hope that it may be possible now. Here is my advice. DON'T try learning it off the internet. Find a local psychic or psion who KNOWS what they are talking about. Ask them to teach you. Do this and you will learn the full extent of psi energy, which for all anyone on here knows could be very limited. If this is not possible for you, experiment with a friend. You learn what you teach better than what you are taught.

This is a problem. How to make sure the guy isn't a charlatan? And I still think you will only learn TK after you have mastered a LOT of things in this world. It's not like learning to ride a bycicle. It's more like ascending to a more spiritual life.

Ah...so all internet "Learn to do TK" stuff is all lie? Wow..used 32 minutes of my life for nothing, pssh..I want my minutes back..

By the way, how do they teach you? Meditating and stuff like that?

yea mostly. Meditation and respiration control and stuff.

I'm more or less learning with slow techniques. I'm actually doing this for a reason other than psionics. Though the minute I did it, I felt the energy coming in and out of my body, when it went out it was warm and steady. I knew this was psi from the way I have heard people describe it. I am not saying the stuff on the internet is a lie, I have just found it very hard or impossible to learn that way. I will not tell you what I did, how to do it, or why I did it. I do not wish to misguide anyone here, for I have just as much as an idea about it as anyone else here.

TK is something on a personal level. Looking for it at Internet is the same as looking in the newspaper for answers regarding your love affairs.

You have misunderstood me. I meant that I belive their testimonies.

Actually telekinesis is very simple. It just has to do with circulating energy through your bodies’ energy channels, and learning how to control that circulation. Once the energy circulation becomes strong enough, and you know how to control it; you just extend the energy circulation outside of the body. If your energy is very weak, then you can only move small things like pennies and pebbles; when your energy becomes more powerful you can move even bigger things. There is no theoretical limit to what one can move with telekinesis

Though using this ability is of no interest to me. I know I have it, but it's so simple it is boring, and I'm not about to go around showing it off like some kind of magicians trick; I’ve got far more important spiritual matters to attend to.

Dan.

I felt that way once but now I feel it could not hurt. I have had countless times where I am in a state of complete lazyness and just wish the stuff would come to me. Plus if I am able to master this skill I will move on to pyrokinesis, which if TK exists the pyrokinesis is perfectly logical. mmmmmm, I could make smores.......

The state of laziness is different from what I'm talking about. It's more like telekinesis is like a parlor trick to me; really just about anybody could do it. There’s nothing special about it.

What’s really special is selfless self-sacrifice for the betterment of others; and genuine deep down personal change. Not everybody can do that, and even the ones that can don't have that much capacity, most of the time.

Realistically that is the only way to really develop your powers. But one must know that pursuit of power is selfish in nature. Anybody who really understands real power would never pursue it.

Dan.

Nice said. Real power lies in your selfless conscience. After giving yourself for the betterment of others (which includes you) then you might get TK back as a reward. That's the real path!

One might get an ability as a reward? Why? What’s the point of having an ability like that in today’s world? Sure it might help reinforce ones belief in something beyond the "reality" that most people buy into. It might serve as a way to test a person to see if they are really responsible enough to be entrusted with even greater responsibility...

But why do people want to have abilities like that in the first place? Why should it matter? In the grand scheme of things, the ability of telekinesis, or really ANY ability is just so insignificant.

I have encountered people who thought they were on the right path; they sought abilities like they were some kind of skills to be mastered. They thought that they could levitate, or move things with their minds, or make a fire in their hands; but I tell you they actually had no abilities whatsoever.

What was really going on was, those abilities were being given to them by dark entities that hovered around them like a swarm. Whenever they wanted to use any ability, the dark entities would supply them just about anything they wanted. The reason is, the dark entities wanted to exploit those people for their own purposes. They saw that these people wanted to develop abilities, and so they gave these people abilities in exchange for what the dark entities lacked.

Specifically, these dark entities were on a lower plane and they wanted to get to a higher plane. They however don’t really have the ability to go higher, but if they manage to get there hands on some essence of a human body then it becomes allot easier for them to evolve themselves. So they would give these people abilities, and in turn would extract some of their human essence in the process. If too much human essence is taken in this process, a person could literally end up in a coma for the rest of their lives.

I don't mean to scare anyone, or come off like I'm coming down on anybody. It's just that I've seen some things that I think more people should be aware of; especially people who seek abilities. It's just dangerous to dabble in things haphazardly.

Yours truly, and most sincerely; Dan.

Definitly . Its the best way to test yourself .

You believe in Santa,too, right? And what abot the Easter Bunny ?

I don't mean to scare anyone, or come off like I'm coming down on anybody. It's just that I've seen some things that I think more people should be aware of; especially people who seek abilities. It's just dangerous to dabble in things haphazardly.

Oh really? And you know that how? And why is "your way" different? Because it's the "good way"?

"Oh really? And you know that how? And why is "your way" different? Because it's the "good way"?"

I never said that anybody has to do things my way. I just said that it is unwise to dabble haphazardly.

Dan.

I never said that anybody has to do things my way. I just said that it is unwise to dabble haphazardly.


Realistically that is the only way to really develop your powers. But one must know that pursuit of power is selfish in nature. Anybody who really understands real power would never pursue it.

Sounds familiar?

Welps not to put anyone down (I myself am attempting to learn this technique.), but don't you have to be born with it? *Gets mauled by horde of telekinetic initiates*

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Dan is right guies, my aunt sees these things too. they lech off of peoples emotions and energy. they only reason they do these things for you is so you open yourself up spiritually and then they feed off of it. (thats y i am always sure to close my chakras after meditating). its not plesent. these things can lead to depression, angziety, skitzofrenia, and other things.(lol, forgive my spelling) if you want these abilities, then gain them the safe and productive way.

N8

BTW, in 3 days of practicing telekinesis have gotten the psi-wheel to spin like crazy!! (but ive been medtating for months, which probly helps) but its from the internet. if i could have gotten local help, i would have (just recently i discovered my neighbors are wiccans!, just a little too late)

"BTW, in 3 days of practicing telekinesis have gotten the psi-wheel to spin like crazy!! "


Yet no one ever posts video of this stuff for the Skeptics.

because its not about provingit to anybody, and if we did provide a video, ud just say there was some trick to it, like a string or something.... you wouldent belive it if we did bring something

N8

The thing is, I'm not some hater out to prove you guys wrong. However, when posts are made claiming to have special abilities, to think it's not going to attract any attention...well, that's false. People are going to want proof, or verification, to these claims.

Besides, if the TK abilities are real, why would the user care what people on an internet forum think?

its just frusturating to hear skeptics so outspoken about it. i didnt belive in any of it untill i started doing it. i would suggest you do the same, pick up meditation and after awhile try it. experience is the best proof.

Not once did I ever say that you had to take MY personal path of spirituality. I simply cautioned against the pursuit of power, since it has an inevitably corrupting effect on ones soul. But by all means ignore my advice, go ahead and do whatever you please. Just don't say I didn't warn you.

Dan.

First of all you mean you had NO success and secondly "psions" are not like local butchers. They only exist in peoples heads.



Why you all refer to this like you are 20 years into the superhero business. Telekinesis is a concept that is yet to be proved. Much like a lot of stories on newspapers.



Couldn't help but laugh at this. Telekinesis is YET to be established. The only "simple" thing here, is your fragile little mind . Then again I wont be surprised if you live in your fantasy world where you conceal your superpowers because you always listen to your uncle Ben.
Your body does contain biochemical energy that is used to maintain and drive the many tasks that arise but it is hadly designed to be used as a means of non physical force. If you read some biology and physics you may come to understand as to why that is.

Its sad to see how many people are afraid to face the world by just being human. People will like you just the way you are. You dont have to move furniture with your thoughts or spontaneously combust to make an impression. Believe if you are inclined but at least try and verify your findings. Coming here utterly convinced with something that is globaly accepted as a mystery, still under investigation, makes you look foolish.

Not once did I ever say that you had to take MY personal path of spirituality. I simply cautioned against the pursuit of power, since it has an inevitably corrupting effect on ones soul. But by all means ignore my advice, go ahead and do whatever you please. Just don't say I didn't warn you.

I simply cautioned against the pursuit of power, since it has an inevitably corrupting effect on ones soul.

Inevitably, really? I will ask you again, how the hell do you know this?
And how do you know, your personal path is different? How do you know, those things are NOT leeching off of your emotions?

Anybody who really understands real power would never pursue it.

I cannot understand real power, because I'm pursuing it? I'm sure you're tired of hearing this, but....how the hell do you know this?

power does corrupt, but not inevitably. most of the time it does though

look at most political leaders, with alot of power. they get away with anything, even if its against the law. once these people reach a certian point, most of them start to abuse their power, hence, power corrupts.

it doesnt all of the time though, just most of the time

and people who do understand real power persue it, just understanding and expierencing are different things

"Telekinesis is YET to be established. The only "simple" thing here, is your fragile little mind."

Oh man, that made me laugh. I do not acknowledge the so-called "authority" of so-called "scientists" to either "establish" or "disprove" anything of real substance. The so-called "scientific" method of empirical thinking has only barely begun to scratch the surface of the most superficial phenomena of the universe.

Yours truly, Dan.

"Inevitably, really? I will ask you again, how the hell do you know this?"

It's a law of the universe.

"And how do you know, your personal path is different? How do you know, those things are NOT leeching off of your emotions?"

Because I follow the virtuous laws of the universe.

"I cannot understand real power, because I'm pursuing it? I'm sure you're tired of hearing this, but....how the hell do you know this?"

Real power, and I'm not talking about political, or financial, or economic, or social power; REAL power comes from within. From arduously cultivating the virtuous laws of the universe, from deep down painstaking personal change. From the uncompromising self-sacrifice needed to hold ones-self to the highest standards, to transcend every concept formed in this materialistic world of passions, desires, sentiments, attachments, and preconceptions.

He who desires power shall never truly have it. He who pursues knowledge will never grasp wisdom. Only by abandoning everything without omission can you attain true power, and grasp real wisdom.

Yours truly, Dan.

It's a law of the universe.

Then, please explain to me those laws of the universe, and why they apply.


Because I follow the virtuous laws of the universe.

Oh ,really? I will ask you the same question all over again, until you stop avoiding it. How do you know, that you're actually following the "virtuous laws of the universe". How do you know, those laws even exist?

Real power, and I'm not talking about political, or financial, or economic, or social power;

Neither am I. But would you be so kind, and tell me, why this is the only way to aquire real power: From arduously cultivating the virtuous laws of the universe, from deep down painstaking personal change. From the uncompromising self-sacrifice needed to hold ones-self to the highest standards, to transcend every concept formed in this materialistic world of passions, desires, sentiments, attachments, and preconceptions.


He who desires power shall never truly have it. He who pursues knowledge will never grasp wisdom. Only by abandoning everything without omission can you attain true power, and grasp real wisdom.


He, who speaks in absolutes, is not knowing. He is merely believing.

ok, dan, there are no "virtuous" laws of the universe, and if thats what you belive, than uve been sadly mislead, there are many ways of doing things, and your way is not the only one.

also, there are many people who have been mislead into thinking that they are taking the "virtuous" path only to find much later in life that things are leeching off of them, folowing a "virtouos" path does not keep you safe from them, you just need to be careful and protect yourself (like close ur chakras when ur done meditating, make shields ect...)

there are no definite laws of the universe exepr for the phisical and scientific ones, because those have been painstakingly tested over and over and over over the centuries, spiritual laws are yet to be detirmened, there just hasnt been enough to build a law off of.

Snake_6024, go read the texts of Buddhism or Taoism, you will find principles there that are very similar to what I was just talking about. They too are observations of the laws of the universe.

Actually go to the nearest Chapters bookstore and pick yourself up a copy of "The Pocket Tao Reader". Ill quote some of it here:

"Some people think that they can find satisfaction in good food, fine clothes, lively music, and sexual pleasure. However when they have all these things, they are not satisfied. They realize happiness is not simply having their material needs met. Thus, society has set up a system of rewards that go beyond material goods. These include titles, social recognition, status, and political power, all wrapped up in a package called self-fulfillment. Attracted by these prizes and goaded on by social pressure, people spend their short lives tiring body and mind to chase after these goals. Perhaps this gives them the feeling that they have achieved something in their lives, but in reality they have sacrificed a lot in life. They can no longer see, hear, act, feel, or think from their hearts. Everything they do is dictated by whether it can get them social gains. In the end, they've spent their lives following other people’s demands and never lived a life of their own. How different is this from the life of a slave or prisoner?"

"Great virtue dose not act; it dose not seek or want. Lesser virtue acts; and it uses endlessly. Great obstruction is called "having"; no obstruction is called "nothingness". Nothingness can carry you up to where sacred virtue resides."

"People of the world love little tricks. They do not probe the depths of the Tao. They abandon the correct way and follow the devious paths. They want the quick way but they do not get through. Like the blind leaning on a staff, like the deaf who hear ringing in the ears, they go under the water to hunt for birds and rabbits; they climb trees to look for fish and dragons; they plant wheat and hope to harvest millet; they swing a compass and draw a square; they exhaust their strength and weary their spirit, and at the end of their lives there is no attainment."

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If you pursue power then you are doing the same and those who pursue self-interest since pursuit and self-interest are one and the same. Needless to say, self-interest is selfish and is a huge obstacle to obtaining any real power. Since true power is self-liberation from selfishness.

Though I just thought that I'd mention that I don't personally practice Taoism. I just read the pocket Tao reader as a storybook.

Dan.

i do...

but that still doesnt mean there is a rite and wrong way, there have been people who get alot of material stuffs and are generous with it, and this also gives them that feeling of genuine happyness

and because the tao said so, that doesnt mean its a lay, comic books are printed too, but does that mean superman exists? no

geogre bush sais that were not in iraq for oil, but does that make it true? no

just me sure you dont get to constrained on one idea, thats part of y i dont like some of the skeptics, they have a too constrained view

It's not the Law that's flawed, it's the people themselves who deviate and end up in trouble.

You seem to believe that life started out simple and "evolved" into higher orders of life. This is not true. Life began at the apex of spiritual evolution and gradually degenerated over the eons. The whole purpose of humanity is to harmonize with the Law of creation and return to the origin. It is impossible for humanity to "create" the Law; it is the Law that created humanity.

Dan.

are single celled organisms the apex of spirituality??

ok, im sorry, but we started out as APES, all evidence points to this and dont start goin churchical on evolution, cause im not gona argue it.

i did not say the law was flawed, its a perfictally good theory, but there are no "laws" per say

I withdraw my statement...your mind is not just fragile...its absolutely non existent...

Thats right, just go on believing in the illusions of this plane.

Dan.

that was uncalled for, theres no need for that?


what illusions??? its a fact that evolution exists? do u belive that fossil evidence isnt believable??? please, id like to know how-where you get ur information, id like to read it

thanks

Sorry kariudo115 I don’t have anything that you can read about these things specifically. Some people talk about the “Akashic records” and how there is a break in them allowing people to only perceive a few million years back.

The thing is though, on a higher level there is something similar to the Akashic record, but it has no break in it at all. I have perceived in this record on a higher plane the motives and methods employed to create this planet we live on.

The beings who created this planet are what some might call Gods, or Enlightened beings. They specifically created this planet to be a puzzle, or maze. The radioactive isotope method for determining the age of things; was specifically designed, in every detail, to give people the false impression that this planet is such and such years old.

The fossil record too was arranged specifically to preserve the corpses of creatures that died in such a manner that leads scientists to believe that life “evolved” from single celled life forms, to progressively complex life forms over time.

Actually this planet is not nearly as old as it seems. It was formed from remnants of other planets that existed in ages past. There are animal fossils on display in museums that never even lived on this planet.

Now I’m gonna guess that people are going to ask why and how this was done and how can I prove what I’m saying is true.

First I’m not going to say that I don’t really care if people believe me or not; and I’m not going to offer a single shred of evidence to support my claims. In the near future everything will become crystal clear, I am patient enough to wait.

As for the why and how, well that’s relatively simple; Why? Because these so-called enlightened beings think that they have to do everything they can to delude the worlds people to make the process of enlightenment as difficult as possible. As far as they are concerned, the more difficulty involved, the greater the rewards for those who manage to enlighten. How? Well really, there Gods; they can do anything they want.

They have also caused innumerable other things to come about and have made just a horrible mess of things. You see, like I said before, life began pretty much at the pinnacle of spiritual development and then it gradually degenerated. These so-called “Gods” have become depraved over the eons, which has led them to commit countless crimes. This however is all in the latter stages of being “Rectified” if you will. Very shortly everything will be made right, and these depraved beings will have hell to pay, both figuratively and literally.

Yours truly, Dan.

ok, if ur not even going to provide someplace where u read this or sumthin, then im just going to assume u made it all up, not because i think ur craked, but because i have nothing elce to go on, im not looking for proof, but for my own curiosity, i dont need u to justify urself... and saying ur not going to provide a shred of evidence makes u sound like a freak, just o u kno.

how soon is soon???

your'e absolutely right. it's like learning anything, someone else knows, ...

"how soon is soon???"

That my friend is a mystery even to me.

Believe me or not, it makes no difference. In fact it might even be better to not think about what I've said here too much. I'm not actually trying to tell you something that you can use in the immediate present; but later on after the changes take place you are going to look back on what I've said and some things will make sense.

Dan.

Hang on... give me a sec to make a sandwich with all this bologna here, I'm hungry... okay

First, if our planet is made up of fragments of other planets, and many fossils came from other planets, could you please explain how all these fossils survived intact?

now, I don't deny that there are mistakes about species, heck, I saw a dinosaur once, It was in the woods over here, nobody lives close by except me, and I only saw it a couple of times, not sure what it was, but it was like a bronto, I reported it but they just laughed at me, I haven't seen it in a while actually, I live near a rather large forest, it didn't look anything like the fossils in museums, actually, the fact that it was unknown is what convinced that evolution is at least part true, it's not like 15 foot lizards are difficult to find, but... as far as there being another akashic record, no... just... no... I think more magicians than just you would know about it...

Pretending to know more than you do, does not make you important, nor anyone will turn back and remember you for it. Have some common sense and dont expect people to just take your word for it. Playing apathy only enforces the fact that in reality you DO care if we believe you. Unfortunately I still find that you are lacking...



There is no need for phantom theories from people who provide no source of that information either....but here we go. I rather be in context than be nice.