I have been hearing and reading about ufo's since that movie in 1975 came out called UFO's. Anyone remember it. To date there has been virtually no scientific proof or real pictures abotu the subject matter avaialble to the public. Really the only thing that has taken place that can be indepeendly verified because of video/camcorders has been the phoniex sighting which was indeed intriguing. People talking saying they have worked with aliens or were at the crash site at roswell are hard to believe. What the subject matter needs is one more good solid sighting that can verified, perhaps another sighting like the phoniex one or something. With the number of camcorders out there and video someone may be able to end this discussion once and for all and prove they are out there. When will such take place, you tell me, but I think that date is closing in abit. Such may take place overseas, not just the usa......camcorders are everywhere...........Btw, what did philip klass say of the phoniex sightings, he died recently but how did he explain such...........

The only thing that will settle the debate is empirical evidence, such as an actual space craft, or an alien body (dead or otherwise). Another sighting, no matter how spectacular, will only fuel the argument further.

So, unless they land and present themselves for all to see, their existence will always be in doubt.