They went as far as India and measuresd studied and made facial casts of the Indians.

Was this for phrenology?

Well, Jesse Owens pretty much proved that Germans aren't a super race of humans.

That program you saw sounds interesting. Do you remember the name?

the word Aryan is a misunderstood one by many, thinking it to be only linked to racism ~ nothing is farther from its truth...simply, i learned it to be a word that describes more - the purity of perfection, the perfect being of their race ~ genetically, physically, mentally, etc.. why? what they tried to achieve was amazing ~

now before i close, let me remind the readers that it be from bits & pieces of history that i like to delve & study into; i don't any solid answers, because lol, i wasn't there to witness the events (i wish i were there to observe, but that's another tale..). so much gray area where nazi secrets are concerned, we only get a singular view from generic history books ~ they're "bad" or, they created the holocaust......so they're "bad" - like a broken record, over & over...but from a scholarly standpoint, what they tried to achieve was amazing ~ but there also exists so many loose ends that are never fully explained, & since my curiosity gets the better of me, i don't really mind what others might think of my interests, for they are many.. after all ~ all i do is for the love of knowledge..

Unfortunately Herr Hitler was not an anthropologist nor does his wishes have any bearings on "real" history, afterall this here is all about alternative history right. Aryan was an old term used for Iran, The modern name for ancient Persia. The historical records of Indo-Aryan brought them no way near the german people.

I think Doktor Von Sylph is inaccurate about the historical inaccuracy of the Nazis period. After the war several scientists from Nazi germany were given amnesty in exchange for research information. Information contained within are a matter of public record, if herr Doktor really despise the American highschool curriculum, search your public library for information.

yes you are correct dune worm master. the aryans were of asiatic stock and can be found invading during the akkadian period i believe. they came from what is now known as afganistan and pakistan.

Thank you, btw Darius the great from Persia called himself "King of the Aryan" and Zoroastrian is actually a continuation of the Aryan culture. The Nazis version of Aryan never existed.

Aryan people originates in the caucassas region. Some groups moved to India (their descendants are the founder of Mohenjodaro, so it is said), some to Greece and some to nothern area of Europe.
The Hindu mythology is quite similar to Greek mythology for that reason

this is a favorite subject, the occult legacy of the nazis...i've heard a few interesting tales (of which i like to call folktales), of how the nazis discovered the lineage of the nordic peoples of the earth ~ a lineage that did not originate from this world, but arrived from beyond the skies long ago.. upon discovery, hitler & the various parties dedicated their resources to restore that lineage to its original state of evolutionary perfection & eugenics, a methodology to meet those ends was created for that singular purpose...the word Aryan is a misunderstood one by many, thinking it to be only linked to racism ~ nothing is farther from its truth...simply, i learned it to be a word that describes more - the purity of perfection, the perfect being of their race ~ genetically, physically, mentally, etc.. why? perhaps to re-establish what was lost if the folktales had any measure of truth to them...perhaps they actually discovered something that gave them the motivation.. a piece of their past revealed?

now before i close, let me remind the readers that it be from bits & pieces of history that i like to delve & study into; i don't any solid answers, because lol, i wasn't there to witness the events (i wish i were there to observe, but that's another tale..). so much gray area where nazi secrets are concerned, we only get a singular view from generic history books ~ they're "bad" or, they created the holocaust......so they're "bad" - like a broken record, over & over...but from a scholarly standpoint, what they tried to achieve was amazing ~ but there also exists so many loose ends that are never fully explained, & since my curiosity gets the better of me, i don't really mind what others might think of my interests, for they are many.. after all ~ all i do is for the love of knowledge..

hope that helps you on your search..
peace..

The Thule believed that IRL, the blonde haired, blue eyed Aryan race was supposedly superior and decended from the Atlanteans...

Hitler had a lot of strange beliefs and lead the nazis all over the place searching for occult artifacts and engaging in experiments. I think the source of this comes more from his obsessive delusions than any historical proof of aryan accomplishment.

I'd love to know what led him to believe the germans built the pyramids. I suspect it was some kind of backward thinking like, "Building the pyramids was one of the greatest accomplishments in history, therefore it must've been done by germans."

Well, I was gonna make fun of sylph, but you all beat me to it. Nazis have that negative image because, well, they are sort of, you know, evil and all..

Nazi supermen, however are the basis of many b level sci-fi movies.

Because it's fun to watch them get blown up.

That was the beliefs of Madame Blavatsky a 19th century spiritualist. Hitler and Goering were real nutcase who believed in really wierd stuff.

This is off the subject but I must say this for this is bothering me. I was under the impression that flaming isn't allowed on the forums . Whether you agree or not, please be respectful of others because we all have a right to express our opinions. If you disagree, then read the rules that you all agreed to before posting on this forum. We are not here to attack others, no matter what their views are.

I saw a doco on tv just the other night about how some people from the nazi party believed that there was a suprieor Germanic race and that its they who built the pryamids, hindu temples and that stoneamig in scotland. They also believed that Germanic people came from Atlantis. They believed that certain races were slaves and others were dominant over slaves. The superior Germanic people then bred with the lower classes and it kinda fell apart and here we are. So I cant remember his name a general of some sort thought that we could return to how it once was by breeding a master race and destroying unwanted stock. in the doco it showed how a bunch of menn from the SS went around the world looking for people with Germanic traits. They went as far as India and measuresd studied and made facial casts of the Indians. This helped them determine who came from a superior line. Anyway just wanted thoughts and if anyone saw the doco please explain it better then i did.

ironic that hitler chose 'aryan' to descibe his race of supermen as the 'aryans' originated in the hindus valley and migrated south and west to Iran and Iraq and into europe proper where they became the celts who were a dark skinned race. It was only after I studied hitler's racist policies that I realised why the nazis left nothing behind them worth admiring. Their art their architecture their writing....all naive theatrical garbage.

And how the Nazis decieved Stalin and invaded mother Russia...

gee wiz, I'm bad for being Mexican, I'm bad for being German, I'm bad for being Christian.... dang I need to stop existing so people can be happy!

Anyway, yeah, Nazi, Alien, Genetic Engineering, Ancient knowledge/artifacts, esoteric/occult ideology, secret society, bloodlines... it all ties imo.

very well said Odinson.

I'm sure you can fit Bigfoot in there someway.

And you're not bad for being a Mexican-German Christian. You're bad for being a Texan.

Just kidding, of course.

I sincerely hope that you do not support Stalin.
He killed about 20 million innocent people.

Ironic how everyone believes Sylph's comments are racist. From what I've read, they are only theories and info., nothing more. There is no mention of any racist comment against anyone. But, no use trying to explain - some things many will never understand..

What many people do throughout history may anger many for generations. But I'm not going to stop myself from finding out everything about what happened because they're 'bad'. Things that we do not learn in school because we are simply taught, Hitler was bad and we beat his ass. I am merely trying to find out what else went on besides the blood and gore we all learn. And I'm doing this while keeping a neutral view because it's those views that cloud our thinking and close our minds because all we think is - he is evil so anything he did was bad. I am not debating, and neither is Sylph from what I've read, whether or not Hitler is bad or good. And it's sad that many here have clouded their thinking, closed their minds, and responded negatively instead of taking this as simply knowledge and theory.

I think what Hitler did was amazing. But that doesn't mean I think what he did was good. I mean, how often do you hear of someone getting close to taking over the world? How so many followed him. So I'm quite interested in what he did because it's, like all things, more knowledge. Besides, the entire world has blood on their hands from one point or another, even making Hitler look tame when you look into the Spanish rule, or even when England had their empire. Even the US had concentration camps for the Japanese during the war, in case you didn't know, and we dropped the bomb. So take things with a neutral mind, and you'll see the point Sylph was trying to make.

And as for these replies on calling one racist - grow up... I'm tired of hearing those stupid remarks. Anyway, not like I care if you understand me or not.

this is a favorite subject, the occult legacy of the nazis...i've heard a few interesting tales (of which i like to call folktales), of how the nazis discovered the lineage of the nordic peoples of the earth ~ a lineage that did not originate from this world, but arrived from beyond the skies long ago.. upon discovery, hitler & the various parties dedicated their resources to restore that lineage to its original state of evolutionary perfection & eugenics, a methodology to meet those ends was created for that singular purpose...the word Aryan is a misunderstood one by many, thinking it to be only linked to racism ~ nothing is farther from its truth...simply, i learned it to be a word that describes more - the purity of perfection, the perfect being of their race ~ genetically, physically, mentally, etc.. why? perhaps to re-establish what was lost if the folktales had any measure of truth to them...perhaps they actually discovered something that gave them the motivation.. a piece of their past revealed?

I think Sylph is a potential racists. to think that what they were achieving was in any way good or as you stated 'amazing' is totally a racists comment.

Well, I was gonna make fun of sylph, but you all beat me to it. Nazis have that negative image because, well, they are sort of, you know, evil and all..'

Innocent people? Killing is only wrong depending on the reason...

Besides, I could not support someone who is dead. <<; Although I do agree with quite alot of things the Soviets did...I'd rather not say for risk of being flamed.

It's funny that he was working with Japan...they weren't blonde/blue eyed. Did he consider them inferior? Or were they just pawns in his giant chess game?

This is an interesting subject. I have studied WWII and the holocaust, the occult link, and some other links to the subject as well for years and years. For one, Stalin and Hitlers Nazi's BOTH killed millions for whatever reasons they had, it was wrong. The people were innocent. Yes, many of the things the Nazi's did were amazing, but also at the expense of innocence and blood. Things they did were building the atomic bomb...well, attempting to. And they made aircraft of superior design, and so forth. They would have succeeded had things not gone awry. The medical intelligence they acquired through the sickening experiments with live human subjects were apparently worth enough to grant them a free ticket out of punishment. I do not, and will never agree with the mass slaughter of people, and the footage I've seen horrifies me and saddens me tremendously and shows that the Nazi regime was evil, and was bad no matter what they're intention of building a pure race was. And so too was Stalins slaughter, and the slaughters of Bosnia/Serbia, and Rwanda, and so forth. There is no right reason for murdering so many innocent people. But I have read some interesting POST war things that run along the lines of conspiracy theory, and it seems well founded. Maybe the Nazi's weren't done. One can only hope that such a delusional idea would have been put to rest, and I wish America and German Nazi/skinhead youth would cease and embrace the idea of freedom and that no race is "pure" or more superior. It's funny that he was working with Japan...they weren't blonde/blue eyed. Did he consider them inferior? Or were they just pawns in his giant chess game?