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Solofront
One of the best fights I have ever seen, and I have seen alot.

http://www.fightclubvideos.com/video125.html


Explain what choice you picked and why you picked it, if you want of course. thumbsup.gif


I picked fighting skill;
First off, just watch the video on the link...lol Mike kicked some serious buTT.
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__Kratos__
Skill, you can be the size of a house with stock in steriods and still get your arse kicked by some small guy that knows how to fight.
Yelekiah
All about skill. You don't have to be tall or strong to win a fight.
nativechick1989
I witnessed some fights that were dandies and all I have to say is . . . it's all about 'Skill'.
_Nyx_
Skill....but confidence helps, too..... yes.gif
Paranoid Android
I almost picked Fighting Skills. But I decided that I'd choose Other.

Too win a fight what you need is speed. Fighting Skill goes without saying, but if you're slow, you're going to get hammered.

darkknight
skills, guts and quick thinking...
been in lots of fights(with known and unknowns), its like a second nature and with martial arts background in judo, jeet kwan-do, ninjutsu, tai chi... it teaches you to maintain calmness in face of danger...
Welsh Shaun
Fighting skill with out a doubt, but with a little cunning as well.
Bahamut_0
Lol, who voted for number of back-ups?
Welsh Shaun
That tells you something about the person laugh.gif
Bahamut_0
I think that the most important is skill, quickness and cunning.
Seraphina
Perhaps the people who are choosing "fighting skill" think everyone out there is Bruce Lee or something....because unless you're Bruce Lee, all the skill in the world isn't going to help you very much against an opponent who's twice your size. Knowing how to hit won't do much good if you're simply not physically capable of hitting him hard enough to hurt him.

Skill is very much a deciding factor against an opponent of similar physical abilities to yourself...however, you're honestly kidding yourself if you think a whippet who thinks he knows kung fu could take on a three hundred pound man just because "he's got skills!" Fighting skill is only a balancing factor in such a scenario if (as with the Bruce Lee example) your skills genuinly are at the higher end of the spectrum.

Subtemperate
I want to choose "Access to nuclear arms"... sad.gif

Um, I agree with Sera.... But this is kinda hypothetical.... So to win a fight, in any context, you need to have the balance in your favour... somehow.
Welsh Shaun
In Reply To Seraphina

I disagree, my mates daughter is 5ft and about 7stone dripping wet, I'm 6ft and 16stone not all of it fat I might add. She came fourth in the european Karate Championships recently, if she can get a hold on me wether my wrist or ankle, I'm done for trust me. She uses my weight against me. Its easy when you know how, trouble is I dont know how. :no
Seraphina
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She came fourth in the european Karate Championships recently


Did the part where I said "high end of the spectrum" just...go right over people's heads?

In any case, it's hardly a fair example...have you ever genuinly set out to hurt this girl in one of your wrestling matches? I imagine not. In a genuine tooth and nail fight, I have just a sneaking suspicion that one hit from you and she'd go down and probably never get back up.
darkknight
got to agree with welsh here, in real combat the person who years of training will win against a heavyweight, still the underweight has to be quick and forceful, but the outcome is based on hit the points-in body which make person hurt.
Welsh Shaun
You might not think it is a fair example but trust me you dont realise how hard it is to get close to some one like that in order to hurt them.
Mr Ed
Lol surely is is backup.
You may be an expert and world champion in a fighting skill or technique e.g. karate or kickboxing, but if the person you were attacking had 20 friends then you would die.

Backup all the way unless the other person has a weapon.
This choice is proved by the chav situation in England.

You may be big, you may be fat, but if a chav and their gang attacks you then you go splat.
darkknight
well said mr ed ... but what if a person has defeated chain gangs with weapons alone....and won.
Mr Ed
Then you just bundle them. One person with a chain and karate skills is no match for 20 people running and screaming at them from all sides and jumping on them and then punching them into the ground.

Fighting isn't like in films where a group of 20 attacks one person with one or two people at a time lol.
darkknight
oh you be surprised by the rage.. the right technique can kill easy without hitting hard...
Mr Ed
Not if 20 people run at you from all sides and jump on you.
darkknight
20 ppl would back off if one or 2 dies on spot. thats the fear factor.
Mr Ed
No. 20 people who were willing to put their lives on their friend, no time for backing off if they are all running madly, screaming, as fast as they can and jumping on the man, at the same time. There is no possible way he could win unless he had a machine gun or something.
darkknight
the madder the 20 ppl are the better..its very easy to use them to ur advantage, a head on head isnt the smartest way to tackle this(read the first post.. outsmart alone with skills) but kill the first few that' gonna make them think and the running will stop. thats human nature. then take them one at time...its the oldest samurai techique...mr ed...you not into martial art...are you?
rocky4
I voted for friends, ( back-up ) That's all you need man. Your Boyz ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
rocky4
Then again all you need is a gun!!!!! gunsmilie.gif gunsmilie.gif gunsmilie.gif gunsmilie.gif
Mr Ed
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thats human nature. then take them one at time...its the oldest samurai techique...mr ed...you not into martial art...are you?


No, you can't take 20 people one at a time if they all run at you from around you and jump on you.
You have been watching way too many films.
rocky4
QUOTE(Mr Ed @ Nov 17 2005, 05:56 PM) [snapback]936589[/snapback]

No, you can't take 20 people one at a time if they all run at you from around you and jump on you.
You have been watching way too many films.


All you need is weapons man
darkknight
mr ed go to any martial school and learn how to fight a small army. movies its lot easlier but in real life you got have the skills and endurance to fight....b4 you could say once the same...the techinque is something like this....if there is a group of men armed with weapons take the first few out... then run but at paced rate ensuring one of them to catch you(the fastest one) then take him down,run and follow the same with other till few remains and that too tired. its old samurai techinque....did you read the first few posting?... lol
rocky4
QUOTE(darkknight @ Nov 17 2005, 06:05 PM) [snapback]936608[/snapback]

mr ed go to any martial school and learn how to fight a small army. movies its lot easlier but in real life you got have the skills and endurance to fight....b4 you could say once the same...the techinque is something like this....if there is a group of men armed with weapons take the first few out... then run but at paced rate ensuring one of them to catch you(the fastest one) then take him down,run and follow the same with other till few remains and that too tired. its old samurai techinque....did you read the first few posting?... lol


I dont know about that, I dont think that can happen
darkknight
what else do you think rocky4?
rocky4
I think you dont know ****


You think you can take on 20 people LOL LOL LOL..... Sure
darkknight
READ the post....said can be DONE. not can taken.... now thats funny lol.
rocky4
It can be done huh? LOL you're a joke
darkknight
nope that would be you....thanks for timepast. and read some artical before saying anything...will you. and why arent you answering the fishing topic?...
Mr Ed
QUOTE(darkknight @ Nov 17 2005, 06:05 PM) [snapback]936608[/snapback]

mr ed go to any martial school and learn how to fight a small army. movies its lot easlier but in real life you got have the skills and endurance to fight....b4 you could say once the same...the techinque is something like this....if there is a group of men armed with weapons take the first few out... then run but at paced rate ensuring one of them to catch you(the fastest one) then take him down,run and follow the same with other till few remains and that too tired. its old samurai techinque....did you read the first few posting?... lol


Ahaha nope!

A martial arts expert can not take on 20 people 1 at a time when they all run at him in a massive circle. They would jump on him and he would collapse under their weight.
You have been watching too much of the Matrix.
Ok then, he might run and take out 1 guy, but whilst doing this someone would jump on his back and sides. He would lose with no chance of winning.
All attacking and running at the same time...
rocky4
QUOTE(darkknight @ Nov 17 2005, 06:33 PM) [snapback]936653[/snapback]

nope that would be you....thanks for timepast. and read some artical before saying anything...will you. and why arent you answering the fishing topic?...


I could care less about the fishing topic. And in regards to somebody who would be able to fight 20 people...... Would you like to tell me how? blink.gif
darkknight
QUOTE(Mr Ed @ Nov 17 2005, 06:37 PM) [snapback]936658[/snapback]

Ahaha nope!

A martial arts expert can not take on 20 people 1 at a time when they all run at him in a massive circle. They would jump on him and he would collapse under their weight.
You have been watching too much of the Matrix.
Ok then, he might run and take out 1 guy, but whilst doing this someone would jump on his back and sides. He would lose with no chance of winning.
All attacking and running at the same time...


ah mr ed...this isnt anomalies..this is combat...first no teacher of martial arts worth his salt will tell you not to take 20 ppl at once, and will really foolish to stand there and let 20 ppl surround you, really mr ed...this is clearly not ur cup of tea. secondly if there 20 ppl then there is a katana, 20..heck more then that can be found later on in pieces. run and attack...mmh when you run, not all of them can be same speed runners, some will fast some slow. the fastest ones will catch you first, thats when you cut him in half...now if you cant do that then your training inmartial arts is useless. matrix...nope..its been playing real time in past history in asia....
QUOTE(rocky4 @ Nov 17 2005, 06:46 PM) [snapback]936669[/snapback]

I could care less about the fishing topic. And in regards to somebody who would be able to fight 20 people...... Would you like to tell me how? blink.gif

thats how...thank you...for entertaining...you'r laugh.gif
Bahamut_0
QUOTE(rocky4 @ Nov 17 2005, 06:18 PM) [snapback]936632[/snapback]

It can be done huh? LOL you're a joke

No, he's not.

And from what I've seen so far of both of you, darkknight as much more common sense then U!

It can really be done, but not by normal people, I've seen a documentary where a grandmaster of a martial art took on 30 guys and won without even attacking them, and he was kinda old, around 65-68.


NOW THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT U WON'T EVEN SEE IN A MOVIE!


rocky4
QUOTE(darkknight @ Nov 17 2005, 06:56 PM) [snapback]936678[/snapback]

ah mr ed...this isnt anomalies..this is combat...first no teacher of martial arts worth his salt will tell you not to take 20 ppl at once, and will really foolish to stand there and let 20 ppl surround you, really mr ed...this is clearly not ur cup of tea. secondly if there 20 ppl then there is a katana, 20..heck more then that can be found later on in pieces. run and attack...mmh when you run, not all of them can be same speed runners, some will fast some slow. the fastest ones will catch you first, thats when you cut him in half...now if you cant do that then your training inmartial arts is useless. matrix...nope..its been playing real time in past history in asia....

thats how...thank you...for entertaining...you'r laugh.gif


And you think this can be done in a real life situation??? For example, in the street.
rocky4
QUOTE(Bahamut_0 @ Nov 17 2005, 07:02 PM) [snapback]936686[/snapback]

No, he's not.

And from what I've seen so far of both of you, darkknight as much more common sense then U!

It can really be done, but not by normal people, I've seen a documentary where a grandmaster of a martial art took on 30 guys and won without even attacking them, and he was kinda old, around 65-68.
NOW THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT U WON'T EVEN SEE IN A MOVIE!


Care to send the source, or did you just watch a Bruce Lee movie?
darkknight
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And you think this can be done in a real life situation??? For example, in the street.

depends...the law plays a hand in this situation, but the chances of doing this is slim, but not impossible.
darkknight
rocky4...Bahamut and many others have seen the this...sadly the art is getting lost nowadays with classes been used as fitness then art of combat.
rocky4
QUOTE(darkknight @ Nov 17 2005, 07:06 PM) [snapback]936692[/snapback]

depends...the law plays a hand in this situation, but the chances of doing this is slim, but not impossible.


Highly unlikely..... more like near impossible.
darkknight
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Highly unlikely..... more like near impossible.

but not impossible....
rocky4
QUOTE(darkknight @ Nov 17 2005, 07:08 PM) [snapback]936695[/snapback]

rocky4...Bahamut and many others have seen the this...sadly the art is getting lost nowadays with classes been used as fitness then art of combat.


I would like to see the source if you have it.
darkknight
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I would like to see the source if you have it.

google it...you find all and many more... laugh.gif
SnakeProphet
No, he's not.

And from what I've seen so far of both of you, darkknight as much more common sense then U!

It can really be done, but not by normal people, I've seen a documentary where a grandmaster of a martial art took on 30 guys and won without even attacking them, and he was kinda old, around 65-68.


NOW THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT U WON'T EVEN SEE IN A MOVIE!


Because the few people capable of doing that live in a secluded monastery somewhere in the mountains.

Seriously darkknight, I really hope you don't actually believe the sh** you're talking about. Let's just assume your theory is right, which no one, with at least some basic knowledge of martial arts, or hell, anyone who has ever been in a street fight, would believe, then it is still not possible. Running and then attacking the fastest of them? You do know that the best martial artist in the world needs at least a second to attack someone, especially when they're running at full speed. Do you know how much of a distance you can cover in a mere second?
Bahamut_0
QUOTE(rocky4 @ Nov 17 2005, 07:05 PM) [snapback]936690[/snapback]

Care to send the source, or did you just watch a Bruce Lee movie?

As I said, it was a documentary, I've seen it on tv, 2 years ago, I think!
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