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Beckys_Mom
Hi

Somehting has been bugging me for a few weeks now about my lil girls dreams.

Ever since she was just 2 weeks old, when she would close her eyes to sleep, a lil while later I would hear her moan and cry, so whne I would go and check in on her, she is still asleep, so I figured, at 2 weeks old what could she possibly be dreaming about? Then I put it all down to wind pains as babies do get them (colic)

This went on for some time and now at just 9 weeks she is still doing it in her sleep, and at times it gets really loud and then she breaks into a real cry, so when I wake her up gently to see if she is ok, and to let her know all is fine, she just looks up at me and smiles.

When she is wide awake (which is nearly the whole day) she does nothing but smile and carry on with me. She never had acted strange around anyone, I could leave herwith anybody and the sec she is in their arms she gives them a smile and tries to talk to them. Everyone comments on how she strikes them as being such a happy and quiet child, as she rarely cries.

So I can't understand as to why she would cry in her sleep, the odd time she would let out the odd chuckle and laugh in her sleep but most of the time she cries and I still cant get my head around it all blink.gif

Has anyone every experienced this with their kids?
STIX
Maybe she had a horrible past life, like she was a torture victim or something and this is what she is dreaming about?

I doubt you'll find the correct answer to your problem here.

have you talked to any professionals about this?

I think this is a strange thing to happen, although I have little experience with newborns.
ai_guardian
I don't think Beckys_Mom is trying to get any medical help etc. just intrigued as to why an infant would have 'dreams' when their memories are not yet filled with anything meaningful.

One of my children (now 6) has exhibited the same phenomena from birth. She would cry, giggle & moan during her sleep - we'd rush into the room to see what's going on only to find her fast asleep. I too am intrigued since their (infants') memories would seem very empty but thinking about it more deeply - their instincts are still there. This could mean that they're dreaming of a boobie/bottle (laugh & smile when they get it) and cry and stir if they don't. original.gif Just a guess but it explains things...
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(STIX @ Nov 17 2005, 11:29 PM) [snapback]937117[/snapback]

Maybe she had a horrible past life, like she was a torture victim or something and this is what she is dreaming about?

I doubt you'll find the correct answer to your problem here.

have you talked to any professionals about this?

I think this is a strange thing to happen, although I have little experience with newborns.


No I havent spoken to anyone about it as I had hoped it was just her having wind problems and not nightmares

Just today as I was still on the phone to my mom, She began to yell out like she normally does when she wants me to come back in and keep her company, and then she wimpered a lil, my mom says to me - " you best go and see whats wrong with Becky I can hear her cry out for you" after I hung up the phone I look in and there she was in a deep sleep blink.gif
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(STIX @ Nov 17 2005, 11:29 PM) [snapback]937117[/snapback]

Maybe she had a horrible past life, like she was a torture victim or something and this is what she is dreaming about?

I doubt you'll find the correct answer to your problem here.

have you talked to any professionals about this?

I think this is a strange thing to happen, although I have little experience with newborns.


That has crossed my mind and I hope that is just the case. Because when she is wide awake she could smile for Ireland and loves to laugh a lot this is why i found the whole thing weird!!

Being a new mom I am learning as I go along so this is why I like to seek advice from those who do have kids and may shed some light on the matter
Welsh Shaun
I am certainly no expert, but did study child psychology as part of my degree course in Uni. So when I read your topic I went straight to a book written by my lecturer Dr Peter Mitchell, who is one of the leading child psychologists in europe. He sais babys spend 50/80% of their sleep dreaming, and the emotional level of their dreams are very passionate due to their need to relate, to learn, to grow. Infact it could almost be described as "frenzied".

Perhaps your baby is just more determined than most, hopefully this will carry on until later life.
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(Welsh Shaun @ Nov 18 2005, 12:07 AM) [snapback]937170[/snapback]

I am certainly no expert, but did study child psychology as part of my degree course in Uni. So when I read your topic I went straight to a book written by my lecturer Dr Peter Mitchell, who is one of the leading child psychologists in europe. He sais babys spend 50/80% of their sleep dreaming, and the emotional level of their dreams are very passionate due to their need to relate, to learn, to grow. Infact it could almost be described as "frenzied".

Perhaps your baby is just more determined than most, hopefully this will carry on until later life.


Thank you Shaun that has made me a lot happier, and thanks for going to all the trouble to look it up
original.gif thumbsup.gif reading that for some reason has put a sense of relief in my mind

Cheers
Welsh Shaun
Glad I could help, I hope I am right. It does seem logical though and pleasing. Perhaps you've got a young Einstein on your hands, will make loads of money, and look after you financialy in your more mature years? laugh.gif
Beckys_Mom
Now that I think about it and what you have just said

A a number of weeks ago she began to try and copy me as I was talking to her, she still tries to copy my words by moving her mouth a lot, and about a fortnight ago I stood her upright and she kept her balance (with me still holding her a lil) and she loves to stand this I find amazing at such a young age

Around the same time she had taught herself to hold her own bottle and she began to put her dodo back into her own mouth!!
Welsh Shaun
Dodo............I hope that wasnt the old Jamesons Dodo, because thats what I grew up on, and look what happened to me!

She sounds like an early learner which will make life alot easier for you. Hope she keeps it up into her more formative years. original.gif
Beckys_Mom
Yea it like every week she is progressing more and more so I too hope she keeps it up and makes her mom proud.

I was able to say my alphabet at the age of two and by the time I was 3 I was counting to a 100 and could do my times tables all thanks to my dad, so I wonder if Becky will be a lot better than me...here's hoping thumbsup.gif
iaapac
If infants dream . . . . in what language?
kitco
QUOTE(iaapac @ Nov 17 2005, 07:35 PM) [snapback]937430[/snapback]

If infants dream . . . . in what language?

no language more visual and auditory! baby talk if anything..lol
__Kratos__
Baby Dreams by: Tony Crisp

From your baby's perspective, birth and the experience of life outside the womb is probably like waking from a long and unbroken dream into an entirely new world.

The science of modern dream and sleep research really leapt forward when Eugene Aserinsky, working as a researcher in a sleep laboratory, noticed that his eight year old son's eyes moved while he slept. Later it was found this was due to the eyes following activities taking place in a dream, and that these rapid eye movements (REM) were a sign of dreaming.

From this it was seen that even newborn babies dream. In fact, although adults only spend about a third of their sleep period dreaming, babies spend 50 to 80 percent of sleep in dreams. Some researchers, carrying their investigation into the womb, state that at 24-30 weeks gestational age the unborn baby dreams a 100 percent.

Because most researchers investigate dreaming from a physiological or neurological standpoint, they are not very good at telling us why babies, or we adults, spend so much time dreaming. This is because dreams are more connected with the passionate drive to survive, to relate, to learn and grow. When we see a child go into a frenzy when they are lost, we can understand just how passionate the emotional level of dreams are. It is this level of feeling that dreams deal with.

Likening a dream to one of the monitors we see at the side of a patient in a hospital is perhaps the easiest way to understand what a dream is. Just as the monitor presents a visual image of the patients heartbeat, their blood pressure and temperature, a dream puts into drama and images the processes, feelings and fears that lie behind our personal awareness. In a baby, an unimaginable amount of learning, adjustment, development of responses and body skills is taking place. We usually take this for granted. But like a television show or film, it is only when we see the credits at the end of such a film that we realise just how much behind the scenes work has taken place to produce the film. And this is precisely what dreams show - the behind the scenes activities and dramas.

Understanding this, and realising that a baby and young child lives in a completely different world than we do as an adult, helps us support them toward a healthy and happy adulthood. For instance a baby and child who have not learned to speak cannot think. We think with words. So during pre-speech there are only feeling responses or instinctive urges and fears to guide the child. The development of thinking only phases in gradually, and prior to that we learn from events and relationships, not ideas. For instance, a woman I met, Tina, as a child was told she was being taken to a party, but in fact she was being taken to an orphanage. She was given a bar of chocolate. She never ate it. Since then she has never been able to eat sweets, and she still has an eating problem while with other people. When she got to the orphanage she immediately went to the toilets and hid there, feeling she couldn't speak. She still has difficulty speaking to groups of people.

Dreams depict all the aspects of what is taking place within the child. Sometimes, just for the child to tell or draw a dream helps them integrate the underlying feelings and processes. While small, my youngest son told me he dreamt his pet baby mice had opened their eyes. When I asked him what it means for a baby mouse to open its eyes, he told me that it showed they were ready to become independent. I then asked him what it might be like to be a pet, and he said a pet couldnt do anything for itself, not even get its own water or food. He went on to say that because he was small, he sometimes felt like a pet. So we talked this over and he decided he could start getting his own glass of water by putting a chair near the sink. He was moving toward independence.

Although you cannot have a conversation with your baby in the same way I did with my young son, if you see your baby is having disturbing dreams you can still talk to her or him, even while they are asleep. Your baby is incredibly sensitive to the sound of your voice, and your own state of calm or agitation lying behind the way your voice sounds. Therefore you can sit with your baby and imagine a situation in which you feel calm and loving. When you feel calm and strong, gently talk to your baby telling it you are holding it close in your love, and you are with it while it meets whatever is disturbing it. Tell it your love is the strength it can use, and imagine wrapping your baby in your calm and love.

Most nightmares are an expression of a healing process. They are attempts to meet and discharge the feelings in difficult events we have faced. Because your child is so dependent upon you and is vulnerable, it is more prone to nightmares than adults are. A common nightmare for children is that a lion or some other scary creature is chasing it. There is good evidence to show that the lion might represent the childs anger, which it has been told is wrong or bad, so the child is scared of its own feelings.

Whether this theory is right or not, an easy way to help your child deal with its nightmare is to encourage him or her to draw or model the dream. In this way the child gets the frightening thing out in front of it where the scary thing can be seen and controlled. Once it has done this, ask it what it wants to do with the scary creature or thing. For instance it might wish to put it in a cage, or to make friends with it. In either case the child begins to feel more in control. Allowing your child to talk about such disturbing dreams also is very healing. It allows the child to voice its fears, and to know you will listen without criticism or judgement.

But nightmares are exceptions. Most dreams are about your childs personal growth, what it is learning, what it is feeling about the world around it, and the ways it is expressing or denying its own creative centre. So drawing, modelling and talking about these everyday dreams is tremendously creative and growth promoting for your child.
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Hope that helps. It's a good read. original.gif
Beckys_Mom
Yea it's pretty much what Welsh Shaun had said, but it was indeed very intresting to read.

I think that if I hadn't of posted my thread, i would be beating myself up wondering what was wrong with my baby and I would have winded up taking her to see a professional to try and diagnose the problem,as it had worried me, but from I made the thread i feel a lot better now and will no longer have to worry

In a way you guys have saved me money LOL


Cheers! thumbsup.gif
Welsh Shaun
I do accept solo, switch, mastercard, visa. But I do find cash is better w00t.gif
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(Welsh Shaun @ Nov 18 2005, 11:13 AM) [snapback]937783[/snapback]

I do accept solo, switch, mastercard, visa. But I do find cash is better w00t.gif


What about paypal? LOL
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