my last thread on this subject was closed but ive found out who wrote the book!! haha!! David Icke.

nehu
this book disscusses the possibility that the government is being controlled by shape shifting lizards from Mars. and more importantly that there are a number of theses 12ft lizards in the government.

if u close this thread it will be rlly mean considering the other topics on this site.

I've got a few Icke books,and podcasts.
I find him quite entertaining and some of his theories are probably scarily true but the bit about the shapeshifting lizards and how nearly everyone in positions of power are really lizards from the 4th dimension I find quite hard to swallow.Im a relative of Robert the Bruce who according to Icke is a lizard so that makes me part lizard too?Hmmm,maybe I am.

His opinions of the Jewish people I find a little rascist too.

yes i agree he can be rather racist but u must admit sumtimes he makes a good case

Well at least you actually attempted to make an intelligent first post this time so there's no reason to close it. Please also note that there is a SEARCH feature that will lead you to about 100 other (old and recent) threads about David Icke and reptilians.

I watched Diavid Icke on History Channel and listened to him on Coast To Coast. Personally I think he's a headcase.

He needs to be on some meds.

I think he needs to lay off of them



Mind Freak has spoken!

I think David Icke has some good ideas (ok, maybe one). But I get a little suspicious when someone gives "evidence" based on the hallucinations of schizophrenics the same weight as testimony from people a little more grounded in 'reality'. He's seems willing to take everything anyone tells him at face value without considering the source, as long as it fits in someway with his pet theories.



Cool. I'm reading 'astral dynamics' now. Great read, haven't had much luck with it yet but I cant say I've really been putting the information into practice. Hopefully I'll be able to carve out some time soon.

Icke has been proven to be a nut in more then one case!.. alot of what he write's is his own thought's even the footnote's that are suppose to be proof, He makes up... I'm not trying to be mean..But you may want to look at another source as much of the world see's Icke for the fake and nut he is.. You'll find using him as a source can make people not believe what you have to say fast...

Truer words may have neve been spoken!

Are you saying you know what intelligence is?.........and THANK YOU for telling me what the Search function is for.

Intelligence is not David Icke. Thats for sure.

Icke is actually quite intelligent and well-spoken. But the problem is that he has become a true believer in shape-shifting reptiles and alien origins of humans, without any concrete evidence to support it. His belief is based primarily on things such as:

1.The personal accounts of various people he has spoken with over the last few years.

2. Reptiles depicted in art, architecture, etc.

3. "Gods" which interbred with primitive humans, mentioned either directly, or as Icke may interpret through anecdotes from ancient, historical texts (Sumerian tablets, The Bible, etc.).

4. The tradition of Royal bloodlines: these are reptilians who maintain the proper balance between reptilian and human DNA through cycles of inbreeding and "out"breeding in order to preserve the "shapeshifting" through generations of the family line.

These points are simply not solid evidence for the existence of reptilians. He shouldn't think it is enough to warrant such a strong belief in reptilians, when compared to the more solid evidence he has required in the past to support his arguments for other events and issues.

But, I don't think he is a "nut" or a "kook" solely by virtue of his belief in reptilians. History shows that many people were ridiculed and called lunatics for extreme ideas but some were later proven to be right - Galileo, Pasteur, the Wright Brothers, and so many others - both well known and obscure people. I'm not implying that Icke will one day be proven right, or that his name will be spoken with reverence in 100 years time or some such thing. I admit, if he were ever proven to be right, it would surely have to rank as more revolutionary, incredible and astounding in scale than anything in recorded history. But personally, I don't think his theory is valid, and the odds of it one day being proven true are probably slim to none.

"Don't sail too far in one direction, you crazy fool - you'll fall off the edge of the Earth!"

This segment from a link posted below has some good points...

Although the crazy ideas usually prove to be just that, every so often they do prove to be correct. They even occasionally prove to have immense value. They trigger scientific revolutions. Therefore "crazy" ideas must never be automatically dismissed out of hand without first inspecting their supporting evidence. If we ridicule crazy ideas without giving them a fair hearing first, sooner or later we'll ridicule the next Galileo.

It's a bad practice to use sneering and ridicule to block unconventional ideas. It's a very bad idea to erect near-insurmountable barriers against all seemingly irrational ideas, because doing so will discard the occasional Galileos and Arrheniuses along with the large hoards of crackpots. Or in other words, never ridicule things which you've haven't even bothered to investigate.

Some Skeptics would prefer that the apparent crackpots always prove to be just that: crackpots. But the reality is not so simple. If we fight too hard to eliminate the "weird" stuff, then we run the risk of suppressing the next Copernicus. I say it this way: There are diamonds hidden in the sewage. Those who make it their job to keep Science entirely and totally "clean" will also become the newest generation of scoffing debunkers who fight to prevent the next group of genuine, disruptive, revolutionary advances.

The history of new ideas proves this by example. Any inspection of science history will reveal a long list of genuine discoveries which were treated with hostile prejudice. If skeptical people ignore such powerful evidence presented by "the crackpots," and if they instead distort the historical examples and proclaim them to be a simple logical error, then it is the skeptics who make the logical error, not the crackpots. When a crackpot drags out the old "They Laughed at the Wright Brothers" argument, that person is not stating that ongoing ridicule proves crackpot ideas must be correct. Instead that person is simply saying this:

"You who make a policy of automatically rejecting 'crazy' ideas without first giving them a fair hearing, you would have joined the experts in 1905 who refused to view the Wright Flyer in action, and whose continuing public ridicule eventually forced the Wrights to abandon the USA and move to France."

http://www.amasci.com/freenrg/arrhenus.html

If nothing else of value, at least Icke and his lizard theory makes for interesting discussions!

My sole question on Icke is why would a man come out & make the most unbelievebly outragious, off this planet & out of this solar system claims about a ''Reptillian Takeover'' and risk everything he has left in this world, family, friends, his reputation even the $hirt off his back & maybe even time in the rubber room to top it all off, if at least some of his claims wer'nt true. It dos'nt make any sense.
Just curious question people.

Unless any of you have actually read his books, you cant pass comment. i have read all of them. To an unopened mind the things he writes about will be "weird" but to all the open people out there i recommend reading them. His latest book explains a lot in simple terms so even close minded people will understand.

I've read the biggest secret, children of the matrix & alice in wonderland & the world trade centre. For me, alot of his claims make sense, NWO, Illuminati, R C church,Globle Banking,Controlled media censorship etc,etc but on the topic of Reptiles well it gets back to my original question.

Couldnt agree with you more, He had it all so to speak, a well known member of the bbc, no doubt being paid a shed load of money, so like you say rebel, Why would he write his books when he had it all, to be ridiculed!

His book Alice and TWTC he said he took a trip to south america after that his life had changed completely.I'm guessing it had somthing to do with the ''Jungle Juice'' he consumed and the effect it had on his life.

Hey drugs sure do open your mind, one of the reasons they are illegal of course!

I read ya M V.