Why can't Christians be psychics or psions? This is not true, because I'm one myself. My real question is why do people have an opinion that we Christians can't enjoy the paranormal? This question is directed to people who feel this way, though all answers are appreciated.

Who says that Christians can't be?

My grandmother was a licensed advisor and fortuneteller for over 20 years. (She passed away in 1997). And she was a Christian... and her father was actually a Methodist preacher.

I am actually going to get her Crystal Ball and bring it back home with me over the Thanksgiving holidays. (it is at my parents house right now).

So I don't understand why you feel this way...

I think that an extra sense can be a gift from God... it is all in the way you use your gift.

I think your wrong, even though I am am atheist I have some good discussions on this forum with christians.

I know many Christian psychics but I've heard some people on this board who say that Christians can not be psychic or a psion, speaking as being other religions and as christians themselves.

Oh well.. doesn't look like they are speaking from experience now does it?

I just know my grandmother... and know her gift.. and also know she was a Christian... don't know what else to tell ya!

Because some christians pick and choose what they follow in the bible. Some look to Levidicus where it says not to turn to mediums and such. Thus Astrology, psychis and the lick are all "forbidden by god"

And, Nxt is a perfect example of people who don't think that... ;P

[/quote]. Some look to Levidicus where it says not to turn to mediums and such. Thus Astrology, psychis and the lick are all "forbidden by god"[quote]

Sorry?




Edit - This is the 6th attempt to correct this post, I give up! what ever you think is alright by me?

27 " 'A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.' " (lev)

That's the passage I was talking about.

ok, having a 6th sense is not wrong. Acting on that sense is not wrong either. We all have gifts, some of those being a possible glimpse into other worlds/times.

Being interested in the paranormal, or psychic experiences is not wrong.

Here though is what is wrong: When your trust in the paranormal/psychic experiences goes before your trust in God. Having an inborn gift is one thing. Going out and seeking the help of "nature" or other such phenomena to achieve your goal implies that you do not rely on God solely for the things you need.

Therefore, that is wrong.

Make sense?

Regards, PA

Define what you believe makes you are a Christian?
Im not saying u r not, just curious as to ur answer.
thanks
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Couple of questions being asked here.... Why is it wrong for a Christian to be involved in paranormal activities? Answer... Per the Bible itself... God is in the Supernatural, but the Devil is also involved in such things... So ANYTHING that is with the Supernatural has to fall on one side or the other... How to judge? The work of God is manifested throught he Holy Spirit alone, and He ONLY is evident when the party using the gift/talent ackwoledges that Jesus Christ is the LORD... Also, there is NO need for a true believer to seek out psycics, astrologers, seanses etc, since God has forbidden his people to consulte mediums, diviners, charmers, basically ALL occult practices, as God himself alone knows the future, as He ordains history, and He has given all that we need to know in his Word, and through His Holy Spirit..

What is a real Christian? One who acknowledges that they are a sinner, that they cannot save themselves in any way, and whose faith and trust is in Jesus Christ alone to save them, through His shedding of blood on the cross, and through His resurrection from the dead...

So acknowledge personnel sins, repent, turn to real jesus of the Bible, who was/is God in Human flesh, and believe in Him alone to be your Saviour and Lord...

I specifically asked 'diferent' or whatever they are called.

Who says they can't? Some people can't help if they are. Not all, but some.

Many Christians believe that being psychic is a whole different religion - therefore they are either afraid of it, or just don't believe in feeding it (and by that I mean encouraging it). An old friend of mine firmly believed that it involved the Devil's doings, which is completely false and we all know that.

And in some religions, yes, being psychic is involved. But that should not stop a regular Christian from using mind powers and such .

Well said PA... you explained exactly how I feel about it!

everyone has 6 senses not 5 and 7 chakra centers, that 6th sense is intuition, everyone has it and can develop it to a very high degree, listening to the small still voice, its very similar to a muscle if you use it it grows, if you don't it doesn't mean its not there its just atrophied, Everybody has a sixth sense LOL namste Sheri


Pa its intuition , there is nothing wrong about intuition, you can think of it as your godself PA , the divine part of yourself that guides you.

I don't relly on god, "solely" or otherwise for the things I need And I think you'll find a huge chunk of the world's population don't either...I suppose that makes us all wrong, and you right So much for that "free will" garbage christians are always going on about..."it's okay to have free will...so long as you...you know...don't use it "

Different, the question you asked is just another reason for me to hate organised religion...as a general rule, individual christians probably don't have a damn what crazy powers you think you have, however the stigma likely comes from the pulpits. It goes all the way back to when they used to burn "witches" and suchlike...primitive people fear what they don't understand, and there are few things more primitive than the traditional religious knee-jerk.

You see, that's the thing about Christianity. I am not any more right than anyone else. The way I live my life is often as against God as any Atheist. Though i acknowledge that I do wrong against God. It's not like being Christian suddenly makes me perfect.

And yes, freewill! We all have it. If I am at the edge of a cliff I can choose to step back or I can choose to jump off. Either way, there are consequences, one obviously more drastic than the other. But there is still choice.

Just because people choose to ignore the consequences of sin (or perhaps do not believe there ARE any consequences), that does not mean that the consequences do not exist, nor does it invalidate the choices we make.

Regards, PA

Thanks Nxt2Hvn



Isn't that what I said? There is nothing wrong with using our sixth sense (or intuition, or whatever you wish to call it).

Regards, PA

You said exactly what I was thinking, PA. Thanks!

I agree

I left the Catholic church in search of proof of the paranormal, and possible contact with the afterlife. This is what I've achieved, I don't worship God, and I still wonder what it is that would make me a Christian due to the pscionic power that I have in my hands. It's just I always felt it had to do with Christ in some way so I never let go of him, but I still feel the same about the church and God. I let go.

I do consider myself a psionic.

Any questions? Just ask, no pm.s>

Not to be mean but did the fact that mabey some people resist going to heaven ( another plane of existence in my mind) and stay on Earth a while or a couple thousand years creating ghosts/spirits ever cross your mind?

Me??? Yeah!!! It's another posting section...
"Your ideal(idea?) of the afterlife" by "Nadal".

I think that it is important to define Christianity here. There are thousands of different forms of Christianity and even more interpretations of what Christianity is. I am working to become a pastor. One year left in school and I can tell you from personal experience that there are many things in this world that I have seen that I would qualify as paranormal. Some churches preach and teach that it is evil to look at this aspect of reality. Others do not. The choice about examining them is an individual one. If someone is uncomfortable dealing with the paranormal, then by all means do not look at it or deal with it. If it interests you then examine it. God grants all of us different and unique gifts, talents and abilities. As a Christian if I do not use them I feel that I am denying what God has entrusted to me and limiting my ability to serve God in this world.

Such words of humility, compassion, love and kindness! Where and how do I join?

I believe that God still speaks to His people, and His children through visions, and everyonce in a while some have experienced out-of-body experiences; They have gone to heaven to be shown something magnificent, and tell others about it here on earth.

I believe that many believers and non-believers have experienced life-after death stuff, and have witnessed heaven and hell, along with angles, deamon, and God Himself.

I think the confusion here is not in defining what is a Christian, but the area of the psycic Christian's are allowed.
To say there no supernatural things allowed to Christian's would be to ban Jesus. He did some pretty supernatural things! And he said that his followers would do those...and more! I clung to that as a young Christian psychic and at one point had to walk away from the church...but never from God. I then found a church that not only believed in the supernatural...they taught classes on it. And it wasn't some small cult. It was a large 10,000 person church. After attending many of the classes, I am now teaching a class for Christian phychics at different starter church. The church is only a year old but very interested.
Yes, it is true that you are not to consult with mediums, tarot cards and such fortune telling--and the reason is very simple. If you are a Christian, and you want to know what to do or your future, ask God. Not someone who may have an agenda.
That said--you are certainly, not only allowed, but you have been given certain supernatural gifts by the Holy Spirit to use as proof that God exists!
1 Cor 8-10: Now concerning spiritual [gifts], brethren, I would not have you ignorant.
I like that! I would not have you ignorant![color=#000000]
Therefore I would give you understanding....But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
And it goes on to list the 9 gifts explaining that not everyone gets every gift, but you at least get one. Your basic two are called "word of wisdom" and "word of knowledge". Word of wisdom is your basic psychic ability to get information from the past or the future. Word of knowledge is being able to see into the spirit realm. Pretty broad gifts!
There is much argument and debate among Christians about this, mostly from those who either don't have psychic gifts or have buried them so far down... But those of us who were phychic from birth know that the gifts can't be denied! You see things! You hear things! And they are not all evil! *sigh*
So I'm saying...be psychic, love God, find a church that understands and be informed - and don't listen to bozos who have their head so far up their pure Christian ...yes, well don't get me started.
Hope that helps!

I was told that having a power- to see the future- through dreams, prophecies is okay.

Tarot cards are not okay. Or the use of magic. This is done with other gods and stuff.

But to be a christian and a prophet is how I say it. Not a psychic.

A psychic uses other means then the Christian God in my opinion.

The problem is again, definitions.
The definition of a psychic in the dictionary is simply 1. Someone sensitive to nonphysical or supernatural forces and influences.
Those influences could be Christian or non-Christian. Since many Christian churches completely refuse to talk about the supernatural, there is a lack of appropriate wordage. So I would imagine that if you specify Christian psychic, you are specifically speaking of someone sensitive to nonphysical or supernatural forces and influences who uses only the Holy Spirit as the conduit.

Exactly.

But we call them prophets. Gift of Prophecy.

Yes, Gift of Prophecy. One of the nine gifts of the Holy Spirit. But that only addresses one gift, being allowed a glimpse of the future, not the other eight. It doesn't include the ability to see demons and toss them out of people/places. Being able to tell whether or not someone is telling the truth or the many other "abilities" people have been given. In other words, the other gifts. I think that saying Christian pyschic covers all the supernatural abilities and specifies from a Christian perspective. Prophet is too narrow a term.

Perhaps. But I have never heard it called that. I have heard just they have the gift of discernment, or gift of healing. Something like that. That is neat though.