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Enigma417
A couple of months ago I first spoke of having entities in my house and trying to

distinguish what they were I was able to deduct by all the facts and advice given to see

that I had a problem with not a ghost but a demon. With this information the first thing i

turned to was religion to solve this. At first it didnt work so I then went to get my house

blessed slept with a bible under my pillow have holy water sprinkled on the walls of my

room and just many other things that I thought could and would have rid of this demon.

So with everything i did I notice it wandered around the house and not just my room so

then i thought is it getting its energy from the negativity in my house? So i decided to run

an experiment and for a good 2 weeks or so I made sure my house was hostility free. And

once I saw that whatever energy/energies I felt or saw were totally gone or so I thought.

Because then it occured to me when i was on my kitchen that out of the clear blue a

kitchen drawer clearly jus opened it self. It pulled straight out with nothing that could have

cause it to be forced open. And on top of that all my drawers have a child safety lock.

That made it even more weird, then I began to notice that when im in any room of the

house when i turn the lights of the second that i do i turn my head and only in the corner

of my right eye I can see a flash of light. Now whether thats an eye problem or not I have

no idea what thats about. And those are jus some of the occurances in my house. So reply

with ur critcism, your facts, or just to even say hi.

Later

- ? Enigma ? ph34r.gif

(Oh yeah sorry if the double spacing seems too long on the page i typed so much and i didnt know if it would be hard to read it all or not)
rose_ashes
been a while since i've seen you around here. glad to hear that you haven't been eaten yet tongue.gif

the occurances with the lights i would be willing to dismiss. however, the kitchen drawer incident is quite curious.

have you tried to get any EVP's of this entity? or perhaps just asked it to prove its existence by moving something in the house?
Enigma417
Not exactly because I heard something about not comunicating with it because if i ever did that may put me in some form of danger Im not exactly sure what
Enigma417
I wish i could take pictures of something but I never see an actual figure I just see things move around on their own with no possible way of them being moved by something else
Boltwave
QUOTE(Enigma417 @ Nov 22 2005, 11:30 PM) [snapback]944720[/snapback]

A couple of months ago I first spoke of having entities in my house and trying to

distinguish what they were I was able to deduct by all the facts and advice given to see

that I had a problem with not a ghost but a demon. With this information the first thing i

turned to was religion to solve this. At first it didnt work so I then went to get my house

blessed slept with a bible under my pillow have holy water sprinkled on the walls of my

room and just many other things that I thought could and would have rid of this demon.

So with everything i did I notice it wandered around the house and not just my room so

then i thought is it getting its energy from the negativity in my house? So i decided to run

an experiment and for a good 2 weeks or so I made sure my house was hostility free. And

once I saw that whatever energy/energies I felt or saw were totally gone or so I thought.

Because then it occured to me when i was on my kitchen that out of the clear blue a

kitchen drawer clearly jus opened it self. It pulled straight out with nothing that could have

cause it to be forced open. And on top of that all my drawers have a child safety lock.

That made it even more weird, then I began to notice that when im in any room of the

house when i turn the lights of the second that i do i turn my head and only in the corner

of my right eye I can see a flash of light. Now whether thats an eye problem or not I have

no idea what thats about. And those are jus some of the occurances in my house. So reply

with ur critcism, your facts, or just to even say hi.

Later

- ? Enigma ? ph34r.gif

(Oh yeah sorry if the double spacing seems too long on the page i typed so much and i didnt know if it would be hard to read it all or not)




A demon aye? Say no further, just drop me a PM and I should be able to answer most of your questions so if you feel the need for help look no further. grin2.gif thumbsup.gif
Enigma417
thank u for the help i will. I jus want to know if these acts that are occuring are they too minor to be a demon and if not another/ a demon. why so light and pointless for a ghost
Enigma417
OMG look at my avatar for a sec what could that be in the far back ground to the right? I jus now noticed that and besides theres nothing in that room but a couch to the far end. Could it be glare from the camera because my living room was totally dark when i took the picture i was in another room when i took that picture.
Boltwave
QUOTE(Enigma417 @ Nov 22 2005, 11:55 PM) [snapback]944766[/snapback]

thank u for the help i will. I jus want to know if these acts that are occuring are they too minor to be a demon and if not another/ a demon. why so light and pointless for a ghost



I would say ghosys don't exist in my opinion, I don't too much about yours hmm.gif


Anyhoo, most likely a wandering demonic spirit will come to someone because they were attracted by some force, but there are tons of explanations, don't be fooled when people tell you there is only one when they are really millions of reasons why these spirits visit us in their hauntings.
Enigma417
I jus notice whatever that is in my avatar it looks like it could be something because where that wall is there is nothing my couch is beyond the picture so that cant be it at all.
Enigma417
QUOTE(Boltwave @ Nov 22 2005, 08:00 PM) [snapback]944778[/snapback]

I would say ghosys don't exist in my opinion, I don't too much about yours hmm.gif
Anyhoo, most likely a wandering demonic spirit will come to someone because they were attracted by some force, but there are tons of explanations, don't be fooled when people tell you there is only one when they are really millions of reasons why these spirits visit us in their hauntings.



So then ghosts arent real its only demons i thought ghosts were the images or whatever of spirits with their own reason or whatever purpose on earth instead of them passing on to where ever I thought a ghost was like a wandering spirit or jus a spirit.
Boltwave
QUOTE(Enigma417 @ Nov 23 2005, 12:00 AM) [snapback]944779[/snapback]

I jus notice whatever that is in my avatar it looks like it could be something because where that wall is there is nothing my couch is beyond the picture so that cant be it at all.




I can't really view your avatar because it's too tiny, but what I want to hear first is what has been going on, and then we can continue.
Enigma417
I tend to not really like forums I usually prefer the chat room here on UM im in the Undefined room if any1 is looking for me ill be back here but ill try to go to that room to start this and any other discussions there.
Enigma417
Ok, heres the things that once took place in my house that i found out were from a demon.
Boltwave
QUOTE(Enigma417 @ Nov 23 2005, 12:03 AM) [snapback]944782[/snapback]

So then ghosts arent real its only demons i thought ghosts were the images or whatever of spirits with their own reason or whatever purpose on earth instead of them passing on to where ever I thought a ghost was like a wandering spirit or jus a spirit.




Well, I don't think it's up to people to decide whether or not to decide whether to leave this earth or stay, if we did there wouldn't be much to death, would there? wink2.gif
Enigma417
oops the chat room is unexplained not Undefinded sorry but like i was saying Bolt i jus had these weird dreams of things trying to attack me. I saw a figure of a dark figure standing outside my house and once i saw it my mother saw the same thing as well at the same time. Then there tend to be things moved and misplaced. Then my mother says at night she hears things move around in the living room/ dining room area of our house. And jus even more things i could keep going and going
Enigma417
What i meant by stay on earth meaning there was some sort of reason they have to stay like a house they loved. You know some sort of unfinished business or just eternal purpose for not going on with moving up in the after life. Whether that or if Im making sense right now im not even sure lol but i think u see where im getting at and if not Ill explain a bit more.
Boltwave
QUOTE(Enigma417 @ Nov 23 2005, 12:09 AM) [snapback]944795[/snapback]

oops the chat room is unexplained not Undefinded sorry but like i was saying Bolt i jus had these weird dreams of things trying to attack me. I saw a figure of a dark figure standing outside my house and once i saw it my mother saw the same thing as well at the same time. Then there tend to be things moved and misplaced. Then my mother says at night she hears things move around in the living room/ dining room area of our house. And jus even more things i could keep going and going





Ah, very common, you are being harrassed by an evil spirit, keep this in mind, make sure you always keep your eyes open and watch from the corners to make sure you aren't experiencing hallucinations as that can lead to a very dangerous thing.

Enigma417
So is that what it is ? An evil spirit ? Is that another word for a demon or something of a diffrent class ?
Boltwave
QUOTE(Enigma417 @ Nov 23 2005, 12:18 AM) [snapback]944812[/snapback]

So is that what it is ? An evil spirit ? Is that another word for a demon or something of a diffrent class ?




Yes, it's an evil spirit alright, no doubt in my mind it's demonic.
Enigma417
An evil spirit sounds like a ghost with intents that are based of evil and not exactly of a demon. For which a demon seems to be classed as an fallen angel or something like that im not even sure some how i jus know that ghosts and demons are both co-existent its just that they have diffrences and similarities.
Enigma417
Oh yeah and that weird looking thing in the back ground of my avatar theres no worries i found the actual picture i use as my avatar just a lamp lol.
Yelekiah
To me they are both displaced energies. If something bad happened near the house it's possible that a "ghost" could have left a lot of energy behind.
Boltwave, you never answered my question in your thread if your belief in demons stem from the Bible.
Enigma417
yeah i totally agree yele but so far im yet to find out any history that could support a ghost haunting my house so right now its still a mystery really.
Enigma417
I mean i've done just about everything i think i could have to flush out/ rid of a demon ive even grown stronger in my religious beliefs by attending church more and all of that but some how i still have things going on in my house.
Yelekiah
I agree. And if you found out that might just make matters worse lol.
Did you ever do anything you think that may have brought it close to you? Because I think you mentioned it stays in certain places in the house. Specific places. It may be a clue to getting rid of it for good.
Enigma417
Very true, but im not sure what my mom thinks because of my old goth past that i may have been summoning spirits but i never did anything close to that. But other wise i have not an idea what would lure something here. This is gonna require some thinking for a while..
chaoserver
A poltergeist is likely.. A low class demon would also be a possibility, though they are'nt so easy to deal with. More info would help me classify this. Whats it appear as(if you've seen it) and just more info in general.
Boltwave
QUOTE(Enigma417 @ Nov 23 2005, 12:25 AM) [snapback]944821[/snapback]

An evil spirit sounds like a ghost with intents that are based of evil and not exactly of a demon. For which a demon seems to be classed as an fallen angel or something like that im not even sure some how i jus know that ghosts and demons are both co-existent its just that they have diffrences and similarities.




No, no, no, a demon is a fallen rebellious angel that is entitled to evil and doing evil things, a demon is much more than a comprehended monster with horns on it's head.
Yelekiah
We discussed this a long time ago and concluded it wasn't a poltergeist.
Thanks again, Boltwave for ignoring my comment. original.gif
chaoserver
Boltwave is mostly correct, most are fallen angels but some have varied origins. They tend to be ALOT mightier than a ghost, and sometime try to pass off as one so they can't properly be dealt with. Demon's are very dangerous especially if given an opening. They decieve you every chance they have. If you've done something to let in a demon, especially attempting to summon one you could be in for a rough time. People lives can be ruined if they toy with too great a demon. If you could give more info I really would like to help, like many demons it may be toying with you now so you don't seek help and cause more problems later if given a chance.
Edit: That was me saying a poltergeist was possible, I had'nt seen your comment, sorry sad.gif
Boltwave
QUOTE(chaoserver @ Nov 23 2005, 12:51 AM) [snapback]944871[/snapback]

Boltwave is mostly correct, most are fallen angels but some have varied origins. They tend to be ALOT mightier than a ghost, and sometime try to pass off as one so they can't properly be dealt with. Demon's are very dangerous especially if given an opening. They decieve you every chance they have. If you've done something to let in a demon, especially attempting to summon one you could be in for a rough time. People lives can be ruined if they toy with too great a demon. If you could give more info I really would like to help, like many demons it may be toying with you now so you don't seek help and cause more problems later if given a chance.
Edit: That was me saying a poltergeist was possible, I had'nt seen your comment, sorry sad.gif



I see, I agree in most parts of what has been stated here. yes.gif
Enigma417
Well when i actually saw soemthing it had a figure of a type of creature or something that's body was completely all black and had a head that was un explainable but it was a glimpse ill never forget because me and my mother both saw it seconds between each other. But other wise its like ive done what i could to try to rid of it i have no clue what to do now really i mean IVE NEVER DONE ANYTHING TO LURE IT AND NEVER HAVE SUMMONED ANYTHING but a pizza/ delivery man. But other wise i have no clue what its origin is i wish i could be more helpful in the description.
chaoserver
Do you have aim or msn? If you want we could speak on that, I want to help because demons are dangerous.
Enigma417
It was standing on two legs like a human too at first i thought it was someone i knew trying to scare me but once i noticed it thats when i then realized what i thought it was, and right after that my mother saw it too because she got frightened saying she something as well.
Boltwave
QUOTE(Enigma417 @ Nov 23 2005, 12:58 AM) [snapback]944888[/snapback]

Well when i actually saw soemthing it had a figure of a type of creature or something that's body was completely all black and had a head that was un explainable but it was a glimpse ill never forget because me and my mother both saw it seconds between each other. But other wise its like ive done what i could to try to rid of it i have no clue what to do now really i mean IVE NEVER DONE ANYTHING TO LURE IT AND NEVER HAVE SUMMONED ANYTHING but a pizza/ delivery man. But other wise i have no clue what its origin is i wish i could be more helpful in the description.



You know what's odd? If you have seen The Exorcism of Emily Rose you would know why this is all familar to me.
Enigma417
I havent seen it actually but my aim is ImaniWilson417@aol.com and what seems familar to you ?
Boltwave
QUOTE(chaoserver @ Nov 23 2005, 01:00 AM) [snapback]944891[/snapback]

Do you have aim or msn? If you want we could speak on that, I want to help because demons are dangerous.



Yes, let's all talk together in a conversation, I think that would be healthy for us all. yes.gif
chaoserver
Uh, I have'nt seen those what's the connection? My aim is gromeprix, my aim is konkara23@hotmail.com feel free to emssage me or have me message you.
Enigma417
whats familar to this situation and the movie ? because i didnt see that movie
Enigma417
what about the chat room here on UM lets go there because this forum replying can get annoying at some point go to the room known as unexplained ill be there its says unexplained in the chat box automatically ill be there.
chaoserver
ok that works
Boltwave
QUOTE(Enigma417 @ Nov 23 2005, 01:03 AM) [snapback]944901[/snapback]

I havent seen it actually but my aim is ImaniWilson417@aol.com and what seems familar to you ?



Well, there was this one scene where the priest or Father Moore woke up to the smell of burning sulphur, he ran through his house as blood would trickle down the glass windows and the air around him began to spin, as he got outside he looked up and saw a demon cloacked in pitch black robes.
Enigma417
Oh, whatever this thing was its body was black and it looked like the figure of a human with an animal like head.. I mean its really hard trying to desrcibe the entity from the neck up.
chaoserver
k Im in chat room.
Boltwave
QUOTE(Enigma417 @ Nov 23 2005, 01:08 AM) [snapback]944915[/snapback]

Oh, whatever this thing was its body was black and it looked like the figure of a human with an animal like head.. I mean its really hard trying to desrcibe the entity from the neck up.



Ah, this sounds satanist-related, here go to this link and see for yourself:

http://www.churchofsatan.com
chaoserver
cmon to chat room bolt
Boltwave
QUOTE(chaoserver @ Nov 23 2005, 01:10 AM) [snapback]944922[/snapback]

cmon to chat room bolt



Meet ya there wink2.gif
Enigma417
Interesting stuff here
Boltwave
QUOTE(Enigma417 @ Nov 24 2005, 04:06 AM) [snapback]946426[/snapback]

Interesting stuff here



What's so interesting? huh.gif
LightRain
QUOTE(Boltwave @ Nov 23 2005, 10:18 PM) [snapback]946548[/snapback]

What's so interesting? huh.gif

Ok my advice * i a pro * say light rain constantly and over time the entities will be happy that u cleansed them and will leave
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