Pison
Dec 6 2005, 07:55 AM
But, there are no hidden images in the mural...??
Pison
Dec 6 2005, 07:56 AM
Yelekiah
Dec 6 2005, 07:57 AM
QUOTE(Pison @ Dec 5 2005, 09:36 PM) [snapback]963206[/snapback]
5/8 = 1.6
Incorrect. That's 8/5=1.6
Fibonacci appears within nature. Da Vinci like to use it (divine proportions). Like in Mona Lisa and the Vitruvian Man.
Yelekiah
Dec 6 2005, 08:00 AM
The feathered serpent is the archetype of the divine human. A mixture of heaven and earth really.
Pison
Dec 6 2005, 08:03 AM
QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Dec 6 2005, 08:57 AM) [snapback]963606[/snapback]
Incorrect. That's 8/5=1.6
Fibonacci appears within nature. Da Vinci like to use it (divine proportions). Like in Mona Lisa and the Vitruvian Man.
Dude, it was a typo.
Yelekiah
Dec 6 2005, 08:04 AM
QUOTE(Pison @ Dec 6 2005, 03:03 AM) [snapback]963611[/snapback]
Dude, it was a typo.

And that's why I corrected it

You don't want people to be misinformed when they go on this site, right?
I really appreciate what you know btw.
Pison
Dec 6 2005, 08:07 AM
QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Dec 6 2005, 08:57 AM) [snapback]963606[/snapback]
Incorrect. That's 8/5=1.6
Fibonacci appears within nature. Da Vinci like to use it (divine proportions). Like in Mona Lisa and the Vitruvian Man.
And really, if you would have read my post that you are talking about, you would see that the finonacci numbers make up the golden mean...shown in this image, which is also The Star of David.

*hint*
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You don't want people to be misinformed when they go on this site, right?
I really appreciate what you know btw.
I edited my original post, as well. Thanks for pointing it out.
I may seem cross, or short, because I really have no time to waste.
Rainbow Rowan
Dec 6 2005, 08:09 AM
The Lotus was the flower of Isis. In this picture, there is a bull's horn (or cresent moon) above her head and the sun in her headdress.
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The Phoenix was also an Egyptian motif, seen when the moon eclipsed the sun, and the rays of sunlight flared like wings. It had a greenish tinge, explaining why the Egyptians wore green eyeliner up until . It was called the Eye of God. It was also associated with the Ouroubos or the Serpents biting each tail, an alchemical symbol.
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Yelekiah
Dec 6 2005, 08:12 AM
Which correlates to the Masonic Square and Compass, Cross of Lorraine, etc. The Star of David (as above, so below) relates to the hermetic treatsie made by Thoth (Hermes Trismegistus).
Pison
Dec 6 2005, 08:13 AM
Ok.
So look at this again:
Pison
Dec 6 2005, 08:19 AM
*THE WHITE PRISM WAS ADDED BY ME*

The sword takes a notch out of the tower, giving light to "something" that was locked up inside said tower. The arch of the golden mean is obvious, to some.
Yelekiah
Dec 6 2005, 08:21 AM
Just so you know, you don't have to keep posting the same picture over and over again on the forum. It's considered spamming. Just refer people to a specific page.
Rainbows show up in the older masonic imagery, related to the Flood. It was stemming from the Torah, a sign that God would never again flood the world. When the sun breaks through clouds after rainfall, the light refracts, and this may have caused multiple rainbows.
Noah also sent a dove (raven too) to look for land. Came back with an olive branch (peace symbol). Is he supposed to be a swastika?

edit: it is, evident in nature as I previously stated, etc.
Pison
Dec 6 2005, 08:22 AM
The children and the walls represent the human and the walls of human subconscious, much like the walls left behind in the nautilus muscle.

Pison
Dec 6 2005, 08:24 AM
They aren't the same picture(s).
EDIT: Yeah, I know. I just get in a hurry, and I thought I needed it for a good reference.
Yelekiah
Dec 6 2005, 08:26 AM
I liken the tower to Mary Magdalene. Magdala in Hebrew means "tower of strength". You give strength to the subconscious.
edit: the one with the dove, I've seen that earlier. Plus, you said look at it *again* in your post. Which implies that it is the same picture.
Pison
Dec 6 2005, 08:28 AM
Interesting.
Rainbow Rowan
Dec 6 2005, 08:30 AM
"
Isis was a winged goddess who represented all that was visible, birth, growth, development and vigour. Having wings, she was a wind goddess. The
kite was sacred to her, and she could transform herself into this bird at will. "
Magdala meant tower of strength, and it looks like Mary Magdelene wearing the blue. It also looks like the masculine energy and feminine energies, or yin/yang. The sword is a masculine symbol.
Pison
Dec 6 2005, 08:31 AM
So we have "birth", shown here...??
EDIT: Tower meets sword...??
Yelekiah
Dec 6 2005, 08:34 AM
QUOTE(Rainbow Rowan @ Dec 6 2005, 03:30 AM) [snapback]963632[/snapback]
looks like Mary Magdelene wearing the blue. It also looks like the masculine energy and feminine energies, or yin/yang. The sword is a masculine symbol.
Rightfully so. Blue is the color of water. Her initials MM, is water, the subconscious. You have that dichotomy in the mural. The sword is zayin in Hebrew (7), the number of spirituality. There was also a flaming sword in the Book of Genesis. An angel held it to keep Adam and Eve away from the Garden of Eden, and to protect the Tree of Life, since they already ate from the Tree of Knowledge.
edit: yes, tower meets sword. It represents Mercury (as above so below). A dichotomy, yin yang, etc.
Rainbow Rowan
Dec 6 2005, 08:35 AM
QUOTE(Pison @ Dec 6 2005, 06:31 PM) [snapback]963633[/snapback]
So we have "birth", shown here...??
EDIT: Tower meets sword...??
The tower is a symbol of Mary Magdelene (MM). The sword is a masculine symbol.
Your prism looks like a kite, which is a symbol of Isis.
Pison
Dec 6 2005, 08:36 AM
Alright, hold on a minute.
Pison
Dec 6 2005, 08:41 AM
This is the same picture of the golden mean, or the planet Mercury (the messenger) as seen from Earth, only a different image.
With the male and female being the pentacles, they form a union, or temple, with their hands connecting to the "eye" above said temple and each other. The "holy reality", the garden of eden, paradise, all of those things. We even know which one is supposed to be female, because one of the pentacles (Eve) steps out of the golden circle (top pentacle).
Genesis.
Yelekiah
Dec 6 2005, 08:50 AM
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or the planet Mercury (the messenger) as
With the male and female being the pentacles
They are the pentacles because the pentacle represents every element. IHVH is the ancient name of God, that too is every element.
I=fire
H=water
V=air
H=earth
Venus is IH, Jupiter VH, etc. But Mercury is the only one with all of the elements. (Mercury IHV) Mercury is essentially equating yourself to God.

Mercury is also the androgyne
Pison
Dec 6 2005, 08:52 AM
QUOTE
Every man and woman is a star.
-Crowley
Rainbow Rowan
Dec 6 2005, 08:52 AM
Mercury, the Cosmic Messenger. The Androgyne. The 6 pointed Star of David. Turned on its side, it becomes the 11's or the pillars, the twins. Yin/Yang.The trickster, the raven, the crown chakra, the Magician tarot card. Thoth, Quetzalcoatl, Hermes. The great work of alchemy uses mercury the metal for the Pill of Immortality. The Philosophers Stone.
Pison
Dec 6 2005, 08:54 AM
And the Star of David that I keep posting is the planet Mercury.
Yelekiah
Dec 6 2005, 08:58 AM
That's true.

Pentacle as God's name, aka the Tetragrammaton

Pison
Dec 6 2005, 08:59 AM
And speaking of planets, this is the fabric of space-time and the impression left by the Earth:

The lotus in the mural creates a vortex in it's "fabric":

EDIT:
The planet Mercury has six inferior conjunctions, creating this symbol that people worship. Why did out federal tax dollars pay for all of this?
Dowdy
Dec 6 2005, 09:00 AM
My dad was a mason. There is nothing secret about them. All they have is a special handshake. He only went there for the drink-ups
Yelekiah
Dec 6 2005, 09:01 AM
Well the mass is creating that curvature in spacetime. You need mass to have gravity, etc. Wasn't there a Creation myth related to the lotus? and a vortex?
Pison
Dec 6 2005, 09:02 AM
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My dad was a mason. There is nothing secret about them. All they have is a special handshake. He only went there for the drink-ups
Nope, and there is nothing hidden in this mural either. Nothing.
Yelekiah
Dec 6 2005, 09:05 AM
Yes, there is. The Lotus flower arose from the waters of Nun. The Blue Water Lily in Egypt.
edit: Never mind, it really seems trivial at this point.
Pison
Dec 6 2005, 09:06 AM
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A vortex?
Yes, created by the gravity of the earth, or any large mass....like the sun perhaps.
Pison
Dec 6 2005, 09:08 AM
QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Dec 6 2005, 10:05 AM) [snapback]963661[/snapback]
Yes, there is. The Lotus flower arose from the waters of Nun. The Blue Water Lily in Egypt.
edit: Never mind, it really seems trivial at this point.
Hardly trivial.....Do you see the three pyramids behind "the lotus in the waters of the nile"?
Yelekiah
Dec 6 2005, 09:09 AM
The Egyptians saw the cosmic Vortex as Nu, the primordial waters of creation from which the galaxies and solar systems of the universe were created. But it was the earthly Vortices which controlled their lives. The ancient Egyptians professed a knowledge of the workings of the vortic fields through which they could see the future, control the elements and not only control the spirits, but commune with the Gods. The Egyptians believed that during their mortal lives they could gain knowledge that would allow their spirits to make the perilous journey from the world of the dead to the heavens where the immortal Gods lived. It was the Vortices which gave the Priestesses of Isis their magic and power over death.
sourceedit: sure, I also see the "red" pyramid. The Great Pyramid in Egypt was supposedly one of initiation, in the "sarcophagus".
Pison
Dec 6 2005, 09:09 AM
Pison
Dec 6 2005, 09:12 AM
I have a feeling no one is
hearing me...

Not my fault, I suppose.
Yelekiah
Dec 6 2005, 09:15 AM
Was phi used in a pyramid or was that something else?
edit: So true. What's worse is sometimes people can't see either.
Pison
Dec 6 2005, 09:20 AM
QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Dec 6 2005, 10:15 AM) [snapback]963672[/snapback]
Was phi used in a pyramid or was that something else?
Phi and a pyramid...
Yes, they relate a few ways. The number part I would have to locate, but there is this:
Yelekiah
Dec 6 2005, 09:27 AM
I'll look it up later to be sure.
Pison
Dec 6 2005, 09:31 AM
So we had "birth" in the other image (see a few pages back), then the rainbow leads to Revelation.

Revelation 12:
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5. And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.-KJV
Revelation 2:
QUOTE
26. And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
27. And he shall rule them with a rod of iron;-KJV
The "child" in this image is depicted out of proportion to the others, who bring to the center the flags of all nations. Although "
man child" is translated a little different in different versions of the bible, it could still be a metaphor for "being above all others"...Gold

Ahh...but I easily forget that the Earth is flat and that we are the center of the universe.
Yelekiah
Dec 6 2005, 09:41 AM
I can't make out that pic too well. Is that a leopard across from the "phoenix"?
"And the beast I saw was like unto a leopard..."
-Revelation 13:2
If it's a cheetah, I'm going to be pissed.
Pison
Dec 6 2005, 10:48 AM
You are correct, the white leopard(s) show up in two sections of the mural.
And one of the smaller leopards appears to have a human structured face. Many of the people depicted in the mural are actual people who are still "missing".

Daniel 7:
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6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.
Yelekiah
Dec 6 2005, 10:59 AM
I noticed the kid in the center is holding a hammer (Biblical reference). I guess the sword could act as a "sickle" (hammer and sickle). And the dove is a "swastika"?
The leopard was one of the Two Beasts in Revelation. He also makes an appearence in the Book of Daniel, Chapter 7.
Rainbow Rowan
Dec 6 2005, 11:11 AM
That four headed beast sounds like a hydra. The hyrdra represents the antichrist and so do the leopards.
That flag that the weapons are wrapped with looks like a flag of royalty, and the Fleur de Lys. The Flower of Isis. A recurring theme, so I see.
Yelekiah
Dec 6 2005, 11:16 AM
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That four headed beast sounds like a hydra. The hyrdra represents the antichrist and so do the leopards.
A Hydra is from Geek mythos. Also a constellation. Hercules tried to kill the Hydra. When you cut off one of it's heads, it grows another. The Red Dragon in Revelation is Satan. In the Book of Daniel, the little horn is the birth of the Antichrist. Not too sure that the leopard *is* the Antichrist because it is separate from the little horn that comes out of the bottomless pit. The leopard-like beast is one of the Four Beasts of Daniel and one of the Two Beasts in Revelation. It wounded an eye I believe.
Rainbow Rowan
Dec 6 2005, 11:20 AM
Hercules has some interesting recurring themes. Very reminiscent of allegory in alchemy.
Pison
Dec 6 2005, 11:21 AM
Yelekiah
Dec 6 2005, 11:29 AM
Is the girl lying in a sarcophagus?
Rainbow Rowan
Dec 6 2005, 11:38 AM
There is one dark man and the girl lying in two sarcophagi.
In chinese mythology:
Dragon = East, Spring, Green, Water
Red Bird (Phoenix) = South, Summer, Red, Fire
Tiger = West, Fall, White, Metal
Tortoise (Black Warrior) = North, Winter, Black
There is the oxen with a yoke around its neck.
That baby looks blue, like Shiva.
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