Revelation 12:

I think that's a chick.

Dragons (like serpents) "guard" sacred trees, like the Tree of Knowledge.

Bison, you mean?

Lord Shiva, the destroyer. Created the world by dancing I think.

I am pretty sure, but the ring around its neck is a symbol for Saturn.

The elements being present is very interesting.


Remember, other sections have to be turned "upside down" to see the real picture. And time is short, a good fuel economy engine would be great.

The woman is "clothed in the sun" of a higher consciousness in my opinion. Saturn is Capricorn, metal is lead.

Just some interesting stuff about leopards:

Leopard so called because it was thought to be a cross between a lion (leo) and a pard (a black panther with no white spots on it). 1. In Egypt it was an attribute of Osiris. 2. In Greece it was the traditional mount of Dionysus, and powered his chariot. 3. In China it represents all that is warlike and fearless. 4. In Africa it is a cult and totem animal, and an attribute of the storm god. It is sacred to the royal family in Dahomey, and among the Ibo it is revered/associated with fertility. 5. In Hinduism, Shiva is sometimes pictured wearing a leopard skin, supposedly sent to him by jealous rivals who hoped it would destroy him. 6. Tutankhamun's tomb has a scene depicted where Ay, wearing the magical leopard skin of the priests of Osiris, is opening the king's mouth so the soul could pass to the underworld.

Really, Ro? I thought it was Kali that wore leopard skins.
edit: Anyway, Saturn is the Guardian of the Threshold between material and spiritual worlds.

Saturn is the Guardian of the Threshold between the material and spiritual worlds, the gateway between eternity and the realm of time and space. In conventional symbolism, Saturn is presented as the skeletal figure of death or Old Father Time with his Scythe. It representes the base chakra, the serpent power coiled around the base of the spine. It is also represented by the tortoise. And Capricorn. The earth element.

Here is the link but it is interesting that you mention Kali, my trusty Book of High Magic says about Saturn: The terrifying Kali aspect of Saturn can precipitate the initiation of the Nadir, the terrible turmoil that ends only when we abandon vanity and falseness and commit ourselves to the path of return.

Scythe, eh? That brings us back to the death card and the Phoenix. Nice mural btw.

How many murals all up, Pison?

If there were 4, they might represent earth, air, fire, and water. Just a thought.

Pison, please continue entertaining yourself. Now you are not only skewing geometric representations to fit the murals and skewing the pics to match geometric shapes, you are also flipping pictures by adding aspects to them that aren't there by continuing lines beyond the edges of the murals.

Oh, and by the way, the boy with the hammer? He is pounding on the sword - forging a plowshare from the blade.

Yes, there are geoemetric shapes used within the murals. Yes, the artist used religious iconography to depict the "Ideal World" in what he thought children would see or want.

But my God, man! You have read deeper into this mural than I can believe!! What do you do with a box of cereal in the morning?!?!

I would love to have the time to do a geometric deconstruction of a Smiley face for you... as there is obviously evil afoot in the design... but I actually have better things to do with my life. This thread was originally about Freemasonry and you have taken it so far afield that it really deserves its own thread. When it swings back (which I doubt will happen), I will continue posting here. Until then, I still just see poorly rendered art.

Freemasonry is also about the symbolism of objects. We know the symbolism to many other objects.

Let's take it further "afield". It was fun.

I coulda sworn Grand Masters were an Illuminati thing...

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Well, I eat Lucky Charms, so it's not that hard to see the Vajra, and some memes are just impossible to shake, ya know.

I sent this message to someone last night:




I have more cards to show, but like Malruhn's subtle suggestion, I will allow this thread to move on to another subject.

We are trying to find out what are the secrets are. We are on the yellow brick road, on our way to the Emerald City.

BTW that is a symbolic death, not an actual death...

I dont think so. I doubt they would say, to reveal the Lodges secrets is wishing a Symbolic
Death upon urself?? Nah, Im pretty sure, its just a nasty ole, rigomortis death.

Also interesting how my post got deleted, and I received no message why it was deleted. It seems the lodge has its reaches, even into my thread =0p. Guess what I wrote, touched a nerve with someone, oh well, its two posts up, copied from earlier by another poster.

All of the secrets [fruit] of the tree of life can be gained without having to join the freemasons. One just has to open certain parts of their mind to the patterns of nature all around us. We are all one, and one can learn just as much from studying the ancient Sumerians, the original freemasons.

Can you show me exactly where I did that? You know, with some kind of evidence I can read, instead of "Back there, when you were skewing the lines of the fourth dimension...."

And, are you familiar with the meaning behind my member name, Pison? (without searching for the marklar first)

Pison
Babylonian word meaning: the current, broad-flowing

This was one of the "four heads" into which the river which watered the garden of Eden was divided (Gen. 2:11). Some have misidentified it with the modern Phasis, others with the Halys, others the Jorak or Acampis, others the Jaab, the Indus, the Ganges, etc. In reality, the garden, all the rivers and the entire earth were undoubtedly destroyed and reshaped by the worldwide Flood cataclysm described in Genesis which covered all the high mountains under heaven.

Gold.

http://www.asc-alchemy.com/assist.html Exerpt from this website:

"Kirlian-photograph of white powder gold and rhodium: equal ratio. The powder pulsates, as if alive, the aura subsequently drawing in and radiating out; a kind of breathing. Each photo, of the same single sample, varies as it captures either the in-drawing or out-radiating "breath".
Although we formulate and sell monatomic elements from organic plant and sea based ingredients, they cannot be taken into the high-spin state and contain a great deal less of the pure monatomic/diatomic elements than those made from pure gold and other transitional elements. Monatomic gold is totally non-metallic, the metal to metal bonds are broken and the gold metal transformed to non-metallic white powder of gold. The Egyptians and others who used white powder gold, MFKZT, for the deeper transformational properties used white powder made directly from pure gold and other transitional elements. They also worked with m-state made from plant and sea sources in their healing, as do we, but the pure powder was used for the deeper spiritual initiations. "These substances would change the physical being of the person," Laurence Gardner wrote about the White Powder made from pure gold, called MFKZT. To the point "they may have actually started to glow and were called the shining ones."

Our intent here is to communicate a specific ascension technique to bring your Golden Triangle™ on-line and activate the hypothalamus. The Golden Triangle™ consists of an integrated connection between the ajna chakra (third eye), alta major chakra (medulla area) and crown chakra, forming what we call the Crystal Cave with the hypothalamus, pituitaty and pineal in its center. As this connection takes place, the unique resonance of each of these chakras harmonizes with the other two, creating an ascending standing wave in the "center" of the head; a true synergy greater than the sum of its parts. This unified chakra, important to the ascension process, expands from this center beyond the three chakras, opening the crown chakra (a balanced connection being the key here) quite gloriously. The expansion then encompasses the soul star, just above the crown.

This golden unity is known as the "higher" octave of the heart, for here lies truly unconditional Love: born of silence, naturally detached, with deep feelings of compassion but sans the sticky emotion sometimes associated with love here. As the love of the heart chakra (including the upper chamber around the thymus) flows into this golden triangle, the feelings invoked trigger specific biochemicals that have a profound effect on the cells; indeed on the DNA. These biochemicals activate sections of your DNA that have been dormant and contain instructions activating the biological reality of your ascension. (Editors note: see Chrysalis 8 for a discussion of "junk" DNA). Yes, the flow of your feelings can activate DNA codes. One's ability to consciously manifest increases exponentially. Of course, this doesn't come in a bottle, but let us begin."

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Gee, this photo looks like so many things: The Eye, The Ourobous, The glowing woman from the mural, The aura, a sun. The Elohim were called The Shining Ones.

Yes, theorically masons are just a club for 18th-19th liberals.

But now here are the facts:

1) Many presidents of the USA were members of the Masonry.
2) Those bastards were responsable for the end of almost all european monarchies plus imperial Brazil.
3) The war of the independence of the USA was financed by the Masonry (that's the explanation for their posterior influence in USA's government), the french Revolution was also financed by them, they were even behind the end of the Romanov.
4) Many members quited the Masonry and reported that the masons used to perform pagan rituals and other heresies.

like the stories of bones under Franklin's house, or Santa Anna being spared at his time of execution by using a Masonic hand signal recognized by Houston.

And then the Jesuit connection... and the connection to Germany and further back Egypt. (not going to touch kabbalah)

This is one of the better threads I've read here. It feels like I'm watching light bulbs turn on in students working a math problem, where some use blocks, some use fingers, some use numbers, some use mental images, some use rote, to figure out the answer.

Hope you guys keep going.

Pison, Rainbow Rowan and Yelekiah
What a profound reading experience this has been You people have read a lot of books...This is just an intuition I had about one of the mural pictures...the one of the boy with the hammer (looks like he's going to strike that child). I think that is Moses in what looks like a blanket but I have since noticed that the 'blanket' is a curved sword, floating down the river ? Just a random thought that popped into my mind of wonders As for secrets, some are better left unsaid, I guess Those murals are disturbing to say the least and that is my opinion.
in Light and Love to ALL, Me_Again

Thanks .

We are very much like students.

Elmonka, might I ask where you got your "facts"? They don't seem to match any records that I have seen.

From a link for California Masonic Lodges, I got this info:
George Washington
James Monroe
Andrew Jackson
James Knox Polk
James Buchanan
Andrew Johnson
James Abram Garfield
William McKinley
Theodore Roosevelt
William Howard Taft
Warren Gamaliel Harding
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Harry S. Truman
Gerald R. Ford, Jr.
and
Lyndon Baines Johnson (only went through first degree)

Yes, there are more than just a few, but to say "many"??

Where do you get info that says that Freemasonry brought down ANY monarchies anywhere, financed the French Revolution or were involved in the Romanovs at all?? I would LOVE to see the sites.

Please enlighten us with where you found more than a couple people that converted to fundamentalist Christianity that decided that they didn't think that Freemasonry fit with their new-found faiths. That is something else that I would like to see.

Thank you

Thank you

your welcome
Was I off on the intuition ? Guess I was, now I see that he is hitting the sword with his hammer ohhhhhh geeez , guess I don't get it

It is said the Mason's goes back to Egypt, were Jew's who sourced knowledge from the priest's and went out to control the world with it, only to share this knowledge with the seekers of Truth. The rest became slave's to harvest their riches, the tools they use are now symbols to build the inner temple.

Salaam (Peace)

The G also stands for Geometry and Gnostic. They are more open these days because the veils are coming down. The entire Masonic Order is actually a prerequisite for the Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine [AMASON] (the Shiners). You have to be of the 7th degree of the York Rite, or the 13th degree of the Scottish Rite to be eligable. Before 2000 you had to be 13th York and 32nd Scottish, but due to a lack of membership, and exposure, they lowered it. The Shriners Rite is based upon Islam. "As Salaam Alaikum" is used within the Shrine and the actual Shrine referred to is the Kaaba, the cube shaped temple in Mecca.

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Actually, according to the national Shriner's website, all you need is the Third Degree to apply to be a Shriner. No York or Scottish Rite is necessary.

This is amazing .. i always thought they are very conservative Christians ..

The huge majority are conservative Christians.

That does not preclude learning from other sources of wisdom.

The core (Blue Lodge) degrees (1-3) are non-denominational. The York Rite ends with the Knights Templar who are very Christian. The Scottish Rite uses lore and stories of the Jewish peoples for the base of the degree-work. The Shrine dips into Islam for the degree work.

I've heard about that, but can't recall where I came across that info. Would this stem from the Qabbalah/Jewish Mysticism? I'm curious.