I don't know too much of this,,, but it's definitely worth reading.

http://www.stephen-knapp.com/was_the_taj_m...edic_temple.htm

[Dont want to hurt any one's feelings, just for information]

Just because it had "Vedic influence" doesn't mean it's a Shiv Temple.

actually there are alot of facts and documents that prove that Shah Jahan guy built the tag mahal

Do you know that the Statue of Liberty is naked underneath her gown? Yes its true, I know it because a bird told me so! Taj Mahal is not a mosque, it is a mausoleum, it might explain why some of the configuration does not match a mosque. Not trying to hurt anyones feeling but this is funny.

The white house was built using classical architecture, that does'nt mean it was built by the Greeks!

I want to know whats in the secret and hidden rooms?

Found it very interesting... there does seem to be some architectural anomalies.. I would like to know more about the ‘sealed’ rooms though...

Sealed rooms, sealed rooms.....why are there always sealed rooms?

wuts a shiv

Shiv is Lord Shiv, also known as Shiva (the destroyer).
I heard there were about 22 hidden rooms.

My guess, so big nutty conspiracy theories can abound about what's inside all the mysterious sealed rooms.

Someone should bust the doors down lol.

shiv is not "a destroyer", he is a "destroyer of evil" for your kind information. please do the research before jumping to conclusions and spitting insults.

To begin with, I've done the research, and that is what he is called. He dances to create, etc. How is destroying evil an insult? By all means enlighten me.

It has been proved that shah jahan had invaded and captured that part of india.so can you answer me which religious king would want his wife's cremation to be carried out in a place that is built exactly opposite to his religion.notice the islamic crescent,there is not a single sign of islamic crescent anywhere in the palace.do u think the horizontal crescent with a bald sphere attached to it (also a part of hindu symbol "OM") would have been acceptable to any muslim. as far as i know muslims never believed in worshipping idols then why would they had built statues in red fort and other such buildings. can u explain the music house so very near to the mosque which is again not permitted in thier religion. BOAR & COW are highly detested animals in thier religion, then why would they have those in thier religiously well built artifacts. also the question remains of the sealed rooms. if you are so sure akuma and yelekiah that shah jahan had built the "taj mahal". you should be the first ones to appeal the archaeological department to reveal the sealed rooms

Please show me where I said he built it. Another thing, you didn't answer my question. If anything, you are the one that jumps to conclusions. and baseless ones at that...

u said he was a destroyer. by saying only "destroyer" could even mean destroyer of good. if you didnt mean that then u should've mentioned it more specifically. akuma said "there are a lot of facts that proves that shah jahan had built the taj mahal". u said "even if it has vedic influence doesnt mean that its a shiv temple". by saying that and considering the present day situation u are saying that it was built by shah jahan guy.

listen i am not saying that its DEFINATELY a shiv temple but i AM SURE that its NOT built by shah jahan.

first evidence is that shah jahan is of islamic religion and the islamic crescent, the RELIGIOUS SYMBOL is OBLIQUE with a STAR tossed out.
wheareas the crescent on taj mahal is of hindu origin as i had mentioned before with the kalash having mango leaves and coconut. its not put there by the government as a lightning reflecter because an urdu word "allah"(god) have been carved on the kalash during his time.

no one and i mean no one would want his or her religious symbol to be expressed wrongly even on a book. then people say the "TAJ MAHAL" is a religious artifact built by a king for his wife to set an example to the world in the future!!. Why would he the king built it with the rules that are not acceptable in his religion?? the music hall near the mosque?wouldn't that annoy his people and discard him from the throne for not promoting his religion or even faslely expressing the religion in almost all the artifacts in India.

The names of many of the builders who participated in the construction of the Taj in different capacities have come down to us through Persian sources. A project as ambitious as the tomb of Mumtaz Mahal demanded talent from many quarters.

'Puru' from Benarus, Persia (Iran), has been mentioned as the supervising architect in Persian language texts. From Turkey came Ismail Khan, a designer of hemispheres and a builder of domes. Qazim Khan, a native of Lahore, travelled to Agra to cast the solid gold finial that crowned the Turkish master's dome. Chiranjilal, a local lapidary from Delhi, was chosen as the chief sculptor and mosaicist. Amanat Khan from Persian Shiraz, Iran was the chief calligrapher, and this fact is attested on the Taj gateway where his name has been inscribed at the end of the inscription. Muhammad Hanif was the Supervisor of masons, while Mir Abdul Karim and Mukkarimat Khan of Shiraz handled finances and the management of daily production. Sculptors from Bukhara, calligraphers from Syria and Persia, inlayers from southern India, stonecutters from Baluchistan, a man who specialised in building turrets, another who carved only marble flowers - thirty seven men in all formed the creative nucleus and to this core was added a labour force of twenty thousand workers recruited from across northern India. This is a lot of international influence being applied to tis creation.

there are two things

1) out of the 7 wonders or any beautiful artifacts in the world "taj mahal" is the only artifact which represents "love the most beautiful emotion" which binds the world in peace and happiness and people dont want this to change thats why most of them are not ready to accept that it was not built for love. but i say that it was built for love, the love in the heart of the devotees for thier god. the only problem is someone later snatched it and converted the temple into a cremation ground. i have researched and found out that graves are never dug near the river.but in taj mahal one of the graves are near the river.
and why are there 2 graves of his wife??

2) the second one is what would happen if now people come 2 know the truth? obviously it would provoke great communal violence which could even lead to a war. many people would die. the archaeological department knew this & thats why smuggled out of india the photographic evidences. i dont blame them. but the sealed rooms will be revealed some day out of curiosity and it would result in some disastrous consequences considering the fact that they knew about this but didnt tell us. it would be better if they reveal it THEMSELVES if not now then maybe later but not late. it would still provoke communal violence but they wouldve already thought of something before revealing along with the backup plans.

you say that there is internatonal influence and most of them are from persia. then why is it built in indian style? if you see the arcs in the mosques in arabic countries and other islamic countries you will find them to be quite different. while you check out the temples in the himalayas they are quite similar along with the gold finial you talked about. and when it comes to the inscriptions you can clearly make out that those inscriptions were carved later as u can see that there are only qoranic writings at start, on the gold finial and near the grave. but there is no ISLAMIC INFLUENCE like"the coconut tree bieng crossed with 2 swords"

And can u answer me why the mosque is not pointed towards the direction of mecca??
if u do more research u will come to know that each and every mosque is pointed towards mecca in the world. obviously i wont and no one would believe if its said that it was built according to the old indian style by the other religion people only because it was built in india.
everyone one would like to promote thier religion or race in other country by building the architecture according to thier own culture. also there is no inscription on the gold finial in the backyard replica. the architectural designs are also quite in old indian style.

also if you do research of the famous "QUTUBMINAR" u will find that they say it was built by qutubuddin aibakh. If you do more research u will find that he resided & ruled there for just 4 YEARS. now tell me one thing when a king have invaded the country, would he enjoy the power or start building the structure immediately thats not even in his own cultural style (minar was a speciality of ancient india).obviously qutubminar wouldnt have been built in just 4 years.

look you already know that shah jahan and qutub minar had invaded india to capture everything and "spread thier religion". i am saying they wanted to spread thier religion b'coz after capturing they destroyed small temples and this has been proved. while they converted the great temples which has not been proved yet.
now explain me 'is this their IDEA of promoting thier religion, by expressing it falsely??

no hard feelings pal, but i want both believers and non believers to appeal to government to open the iron doors.

AND sorry if its too long

if it had indeed been built as a mosque it owuld probably have been destroyed over time by those lazy and rebelious hindooooos[jahan put down quite a few rebellions]. The fact is it was built in indian, respecting Indian traditions in a chance that the locals will leave it alone if it all goes belly up, theres a lot of homage to hindi influence all over the taj in architecture. jahan was born in India, to a hindi bride, so youv got to admit that theres a fair bit of indian influence affecting him already. However he also built the regular muslim mosque of Jamia Masjid. As for not facing Mecca, do islamic mausoleums face mecca?

it was also standard practive for the moghul to make his kings rule for only 4 years, at which time they would then go back to court and try and further their political agendas in the chance of being given 4 more years[lol, get it?] in another perhaps richer and more powerful province.

Don't be ridiculous. Everyone knows the title is Shiva, the Destroyer.

http://www.lotussculpture.com/shiva1.htm

http://www.sanatansociety.org/hindu_gods_a...esses/shiva.htm

http://members.cox.net/apamnapat/entities/Shiva.html

You think I'm making this up? Google the name, and you'll get thousands of pages.

yeah, I thought shiva was 'the destroyer'.

In Isfahan/Iran, the Safavid palace of Alighapoo (16th century), is in the same square as two mosques built by Shah Abbas himself. There are music halls in the palace. They are cleverely sound proofed by fine carved pannels in shape of music instruments, which helped the acoustics as well. Nobody outside the halls could hear the music being played inside.
The Taj Mahal is a tomb (not a Mosque), built by a Persian architect for the Persian wife of Shahjahan, Mumtaz Mahal. The architecture is immensely Persian.

I never said muslims never played music. Remember "KAWALLI".

WHAT i dont understand is even if it was sound proofed at that time why would he built it front of the grave and near to the mosque.

look! its quite understandable that its built at other places in the palace. they wouldve liked to listen to it maybe after thier meals or some other times. but if they are built at many places in the palace then why would he want to built where he is not suppose to built it.

i believe that the place is built by marble and glass and it has an entry in between without any door if you see carefully then how can it BE PERFECTLY "sound proofed".

wheareas in a TEMPLE sacred music is always played in front of the idol of god. that prooves that the grave is used to hide the GOD'S SIGN.

i never said it was a mosque what i said was it's a palace provided with a mosque at the backside.

no offence but if you search the history you will find it was the desert people(muslims) who destroyed most of the things. there is not a single record in the past of the hindus destroying any "CREATION". there were stories of ARYANS coming and destroying everything BUT they were people from other world who were named as "aryans" in hindu culture. that doesnt mean that they were particularly from our culture.

let me give you a EXAMPLE of the "BUDDHA" statue bieng destroyed in afghanisthan just a few years ago. THAT EXPLAINS IT, DOESNT IT?

ALL mosques do have to face MECCA its written all over in the qoran.

even if one would respect other religion no one would go against his or her culture to respect other religion.

another thing please dont insult anyone here. i respect each and every religion but i dont like what was done to innocent people in the past and we are still calling "evil doings" as great karma.

not just hindus but even other religions including muslims. if you check my point of view i have NEVER insulted islamic virtues but i have only critisized thier thought of making people believe that they respect other religions by building "taj mahal" opposite to thier culture. which is NOT TRUE.

when you say that why wasnt it destroyed after the mughals went

I would say that hindus didnt DESTROY it b'coz they knew it was a TEMPLE and it still had the idol inside. and the rumours that shah jahan had built the taj mahal went on spreading even after the british came here. remember shah jahan ruled here in india for a long time after "taj mahal" was built. obviously he wont want people to spread the wrong message

what?, your trying to say that during the countless insurections, rebellions and invasions of muhgal lands countless civil fightning of waring factions, and no hindus destroyed anything?. Ok i agree with what u said apart from that, which is in all honesty mental.

i am SURE hindus never destroyed anything in mughal lands THAT IS if you are saying it.
i checked it but there is NO SUCH ACCOUNT of hindus INVADING mughals lands.

I am saying hindus never destroyed anything in the past because there are NO DESTROYED REMAINS of any MOSQUE or muslim palaces in MUGHAL countries.

its the AMERICANS who invaded the arabic countries and are stealing thier underground oil.

and obviously during the religious wars in india hindus would've never destroyed whats already thiers in thier own country.

I remember...some professor(can't remember his name right now) started the whole talk of Taj Mahal being a Shiv temple which I think is ridiculous, not many people in India actually believe this is true. It is just another wild claim to attract attention and make news. One look at Taj Mahal and almost anybody can say that it doesn't even remotely match the architecture of any hindu temple.


It's actually HINDUS, please learn to spell Hindu first before you make such highly immature and insulting remarks on the religion.

actually there are very few old hindu temples remaining in our world. most of them were destroyed in the past. the huge temples at present were built in recent decades.so we dont know EXACTLY how the major old temples looked like.

and also most of the architectural designs are mentioned in the old "HINDU EPICS"

i did say that its not NECESSARILY a shiv'S temple but its DEFINATELY not built by shah jahan.

but IF you research deep you will find that there are carvings of the dhatusura's flower which blooms into the HINDU SIGN "OM" very clearly near both the graves which is necessary for lord shiv's worship thats why its assumed that its shiv's temple.

no one saw those carvings 'coz no one was allowed to go near the grave but the archaeologists saw them while researching.

Guys! Check this link. It talks about Shri. P.N.Oak's book named "Taj Mahal - The True Story" which was published in 1965 but banned immediately by the then Congress government to avoid nationwide disputes between Hindus and Muslims. This link lists 108 reasons on why Taj Mahal is not what we know it is.

http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/tejo.html

I too cannot believe that such a wonder could have been made by such luxury-hungry Mughal kings. Except for modern writers and poets, no historic document exists talking about the existence of Taj Mahal or that it was built for love. On the contrary, several ancient documents exist as evidence to the existence of the Shiv Temple. I myself prefer to call it and remember it as Tejo-Mahalaya and erase everything else I previously know as Taj Mahal. That one of the greatest Shiv Temples in India was converted into a tomb as a symbol of love by a king who has recorded evidence, including his own words, for his behaviour towards women, in my opinion, is one of the greatest cover-ups of Ancient Indian history.

Vaasan

Note: More? Check these links. Now talk about Mecca!

http://www.audarya-fellowship.com/printthr...20424&type=post

http://www.geocities.com/jairama1/kaaba.htm

guys guys...wat if i say that our gods were frm some other planet...be it lord shiva or allah or jesus christ...dont u find something familiar.... some of our traditions, languages , cultures etc are familiar....

and if u guys closely observe ... stephen knapp was talking abt a VEDIC temple not a hindu or a muslim one....Vedic religion existed long back frm the harrappan days ... most of the relgions were outcome of Vedic religions....just observe.....

and frm where humans got this immense technology to built a city like harappa and mohenjodaro .. of course from outside help yaar.... we humans have been monitored from outside frm a long time .... ppl from different planets ...ppl who wished to help us grow but we sick humans are always fighting among ourselves ....and thats da problem.....