Dante The Hunter
Nov 30 2005, 06:30 PM
just wonderin'. because they are not floating,wisecracking blue men with the persona of robin williams
djinn are spirits summoned from there home (another dimension) by a master(magician whatever) and they do the magicians bidding, for if they dont, they face con sequences.
there are 5 levels of spirit:imp foliot djinn afrit and marid , with many subclasses, and a few higher entities.they are shifters, for they are fluid in our realm, so its hard to get pics.
many claimed sightings but no concrete proof.
just wonderin' if anyones interested. i know quite a bit more, but im just givin' yous a taster
vertigoflow
Nov 30 2005, 06:56 PM
I'm interested. Where'd you get your info?
the pop-culture treatment of the "jinni" has done a lot to dilute it in most peoples minds; but some of the older legends make the djinn sound absolutely demonic.
Those awful 'wishmaster' movies didn't help much either.
LizFL
Nov 30 2005, 08:20 PM
I am interested to hear more about this.
I see you said it is hard to get pictures, but has anyone done so?
Dante The Hunter
Nov 30 2005, 08:27 PM
i get my info from googling and other semi-reliable resources.
the reason i said its hard to find photos is, they are shapeshifters, so if you photograph them, it aint there true form.
i have heard though, through silver induced unconciuosness(sp)(one of their weaknesses is silver), their 'esscence' takes on as near its true form as it gets on earth.apparantly it has the consistency of dishwater.nice.
does anyone have any specific questions, id be only too happy to fill in gaps in knowledge!!
TeraLink
Nov 30 2005, 09:23 PM
Haha like RPG booklets (Jk)?
Well yr info seems cool... It's just not much. I'd like a pic.
TeraLink Was Here!
Dante The Hunter
Nov 30 2005, 09:29 PM
well, ill try, but it'll have to be one of the old stereo types im afraid.
Dante The Hunter
Nov 30 2005, 09:31 PM
QUOTE(TeraLink @ Nov 30 2005, 09:23 PM) [snapback]955872[/snapback]
Well yr info seems cool... It's just not much. I'd like a pic.
TeraLink Was Here!
well i did ask for specific Q's, i know so much, and i might type out the stuff you dont want to know, and not type the stuff you want otherwise, if you get my meaning.
LizFL
Nov 30 2005, 09:44 PM
QUOTE(dante,the hunter @ Nov 30 2005, 01:30 PM) [snapback]955652[/snapback]
djinn are spirits summoned from there home (another dimension) by a master(magician whatever) and they do the magicians bidding, for if they dont, they face con sequences.
Ok, here is a specific question for ya
What sort of consequences do they face?
And are they generally evil, good, or neither?
Dante The Hunter
Nov 30 2005, 09:48 PM
QUOTE(Frank @ Nov 30 2005, 09:44 PM) [snapback]955907[/snapback]
Ok, here is a specific question for ya
What sort of consequences do they face?
And are they generally evil, good, or neither?
they face either:utter destruction at the hands of the Shriveling Fire(a punishment the master invokes)
or pain by other punishments such as the stimulating compass or the red hot stipples
and they are like people, seperate personas, but generally hate mankind for their enslavement.
vertigoflow
Nov 30 2005, 10:01 PM
What have you found about their enslavement?
How and why were they enslaved by mankind?
What do they do in their free time (like, when not being summonded and stuff)?
Matthias
Nov 30 2005, 10:03 PM
What are the sub-divisions of djinni? I imediately thought of Golden Sun(a games) and like Earth, Fire, Water, and Wind
Care to enlighten me and fix my ignorance?
Dante The Hunter
Nov 30 2005, 10:04 PM
ah, i was hoping you would ask about the general summoning/enslavement idea.:
a magician sets up a pentacle, with candles, and herbs such as rosemary which spirits find repungent. (NB if the pentacle is incorectly drawn, the spirit, when summoned will devour you immidietly) then you call out the spirits true name with genral summoning words, and he should appear, and then you give the orders. any mispronunciation, misuse of words ect. that the spirit can use to misinterperet an order, it will use against you.
why are they summoned? they are powerful, and can be used as weapons.
in free time?they simply float(to my knowledge) as one conjoined entity in their dimension, repairing the damge our realm does to their escence.
Dante The Hunter
Nov 30 2005, 10:10 PM
QUOTE(Matthias @ Nov 30 2005, 10:03 PM) [snapback]955936[/snapback]
What are the sub-divisions of djinni? I imediately thought of Golden Sun(a games) and like Earth, Fire, Water, and Wind
Care to enlighten me and fix my ignorance?
they are spirits of air and fire.subdivisions include horlas,ghuls,wilothewisps, and millions other sumclasses of unruly imp. ill try to find out more.
Dante The Hunter
Nov 30 2005, 10:13 PM
any small details left out of answers post, and ill deal with tomorrow.im nackered and im off to bed.
vertigoflow
Nov 30 2005, 11:34 PM
QUOTE(dante,the hunter @ Nov 30 2005, 05:04 PM) [snapback]955937[/snapback]
they simply float(to my knowledge) as one conjoined entity in their dimension, repairing the damge our realm does to their escence.
Very interesting!
Can you elaborate on this? Any interesting sources you can post links to?
Allfather of Valhalla
Nov 30 2005, 11:44 PM
Just a hint, eh:
1. Jinns do not grant wishes for people; they grant their own wishes.
2. Don't mess with a jinn; they have the power to control time.
3. Jinns in history have been the jinn in Aladdin, and a jinn from a myth from Norway.
P.S.
The myth from Norway probably came from Austria, and was probably based on trolls and giants.
vergel the shadower
Dec 1 2005, 05:56 PM
QUOTE(dante,the hunter @ Nov 30 2005, 06:30 PM) [snapback]955652[/snapback]
just wonderin'. because they are not floating,wisecracking blue men with the persona of robin williams
djinn are spirits summoned from there home (another dimension) by a master(magician whatever) and they do the magicians bidding, for if they dont, they face con sequences.
there are 5 levels of spirit:imp foliot djinn afrit and marid , with many subclasses, and a few higher entities.they are shifters, for they are fluid in our realm, so its hard to get pics.
many claimed sightings but no concrete proof.
just wonderin' if anyones interested. i know quite a bit more, but im just givin' yous a taster

wait that wasnt a real jeenay well thats my childhood hopes of meating him crumbled anyway but they do float right
Dante The Hunter
Dec 1 2005, 07:51 PM
man,youre spellin sucks
Dante The Hunter
Dec 1 2005, 08:15 PM
QUOTE(vertigoflow @ Nov 30 2005, 11:34 PM) [snapback]956052[/snapback]
Very interesting!
Can you elaborate on this? Any interesting sources you can post links to?
sorry, its in me nogget!!
but i can elaborate.their realm has no need for phyisical form.it has been described as a great swirl of colour.ive heard it called the 'other place' a couple of times......, the y float as one entity, and their realm heals them.they do not belong in our world, so us binding them here, hurts their esscence and apparantly is like a dull ache.they can prevent its advance by changing form,but it does nt last long.
i have heard of one way to avoid the pain.it is instead of speaking the words in latin 'from their world to ours, something lke 'into this host', and the human fuses with the djinn.
but unless you have a benevolant demon(not bloody likley) thenthe demon crushes the humans mind and takes over.
their has been one case when a benevolant demon was involved, and the fusion worked.
the results were aparantly fantastic.although their thoughts were shared, and they both had to use the same mouth, so things became confusing.
their is one way to enter their world.instead of the summoning 'from their world to ours' its our world to theirs., and you need a benevolant demon(djinn, whatever )to guide your spirit through their world.but when you are in their world, your real body is dieing.no points for guessing why only 2 people have ever attempted it.
shadowtiger17
Dec 2 2005, 02:37 AM
are you all talking about this photo?
Dante The Hunter
Dec 2 2005, 04:24 PM
who said antthing about a pic?
shadowtiger17
Dec 2 2005, 04:53 PM
QUOTE(dante,the hunter @ Dec 2 2005, 04:24 PM) [snapback]958629[/snapback]
who said antthing about a pic?
o wait, i was thinking of another thread,,,i'm confused, don't listen to me
vergel the shadower
Dec 2 2005, 05:56 PM
QUOTE(dante,the hunter @ Dec 1 2005, 07:51 PM) [snapback]957216[/snapback]
man,youre spellin sucks
but do they float and sing catchy songs
Dante The Hunter
Dec 2 2005, 09:20 PM
thats a big negatori captain
vergel the shadower
Dec 2 2005, 09:39 PM
QUOTE(dante,the hunter @ Nov 30 2005, 09:31 PM) [snapback]955883[/snapback]
well i did ask for specific Q's, i know so much, and i might type out the stuff you dont want to know, and not type the stuff you want otherwise, if you get my meaning.
do they get sommened out of magic lamps and hoovers
Dante The Hunter
Dec 2 2005, 10:01 PM
QUOTE(vergel the shadower @ Dec 2 2005, 09:39 PM) [snapback]958957[/snapback]
do they get sommened out of magic lamps and hoovers
no, the whole lamp thing was pure coincidence. a magician locked a djinn inside a lamp with the spell of indefinate confinement, and the djinn was so grateful when released, he granted 3 wishes
shadowtiger17
Dec 2 2005, 11:37 PM
QUOTE(dante,the hunter @ Nov 30 2005, 06:30 PM) [snapback]955652[/snapback]
just wonderin'. because they are not floating,wisecracking blue men with the persona of robin williams
djinn are spirits summoned from there home (another dimension) by a master(magician whatever) and they do the magicians bidding, for if they dont, they face con sequences.
there are 5 levels of spirit:imp foliot djinn afrit and marid , with many subclasses, and a few higher entities.they are shifters, for they are fluid in our realm, so its hard to get pics.
many claimed sightings but no concrete proof.
just wonderin' if anyones interested. i know quite a bit more, but im just givin' yous a taster

ooooh, djinn, the origin of the word jeanie,,,,some kid tried to summon a djinn, but he couldn't,,,the djinn was so damn powerful, he even had a dream that he saw the djinn and the power of him paralyzed the kid,,,and he kept getting really bad feelings,,,,,,,,,i don't know what happened to him after that,,,
I am
Dec 3 2005, 03:05 AM
Where'd you learn all this? Dante?
Also, could you summon one into an animal? Or specifically summon a benevolent djinni?
Ryushin
Dec 3 2005, 03:11 AM
QUOTE(shadowtiger17 @ Dec 2 2005, 11:37 PM) [snapback]959064[/snapback]
ooooh, djinn, the origin of the word jeanie,,,,some kid tried to summon a djinn, but he couldn't,,,the djinn was so damn powerful, he even had a dream that he saw the djinn and the power of him paralyzed the kid,,,and he kept getting really bad feelings,,,,,,,,,i don't know what happened to him after that,,,

tsk tsk
It's Genie, not Jeanie.
shadowtiger17
Dec 3 2005, 03:14 AM
QUOTE(dante,the hunter @ Dec 2 2005, 10:01 PM) [snapback]958983[/snapback]
no, the whole lamp thing was pure coincidence. a magician locked a djinn inside a lamp with the spell of indefinate confinement, and the djinn was so grateful when released, he granted 3 wishes
the original story of that Aladin actually goes that the genie gave unlimited wishes,,,not just 3, but anything you could think of,,,,and the genie didn't desire freedom,,, like in the Disney version of it,,,,,but the real Arabian Nights book---------the one who wrote this book was in touch with mythology, they probably knew more about the matter back then then what we know today,,,,,,i bet someone really did summon a genie, they could probably grant wishes because djinn are really powerful, but what makes you think that they will grant your wish?
Dante The Hunter
Dec 3 2005, 09:52 AM
QUOTE(shadowtiger17 @ Dec 3 2005, 03:14 AM) [snapback]959288[/snapback]
the original story of that Aladin actually goes that the genie gave unlimited wishes,,,not just 3, but anything you could think of,,,,and the genie didn't desire freedom,,, like in the Disney version of it,,,,,but the real Arabian Nights book---------the one who wrote this book was in touch with mythology, they probably knew more about the matter back then then what we know today,,,,,,i bet someone really did summon a genie, they could probably grant wishes because djinn are really powerful, but what makes you think that they will grant your wish?
because they are punished if they dont
Dante The Hunter
Dec 3 2005, 09:54 AM
QUOTE(I am @ Dec 3 2005, 03:05 AM) [snapback]959270[/snapback]
Where'd you learn all this? Dante?
Also, could you summon one into an animal? Or specifically summon a benevolent djinni?
various googling searches, and years of reading.
if you could summon it into a person,sure, u could summon one into an animal, but they can shape shif t to any animal to suit their situation, so i dont see the point
Dark Link
Dec 3 2005, 08:27 PM
Clearly use havent read the Bartimaeus trilogy by Jonathan Stroud. Thats were dante here is gettin all his info. None of it's real.
Dante...LETS DANCE!
Dante The Hunter
Dec 3 2005, 09:31 PM
but ive been on mr.strouds site, and he gets it from researching, so ,yeah, it is real
Dante The Hunter
Dec 3 2005, 09:33 PM
and i recently did an english piece on the subject, and most of my info is from that too, but yes, i have read mr.strouds works
Allfather of Valhalla
Dec 4 2005, 12:23 AM
My Lord, no one is listening to me! Geez!
Dark Link
Dec 4 2005, 01:16 AM
A take back what i said about NONE of it being real since thers no way of me proving that its not but some of what u sed is just fiction made up by Stroud 4 his book.
and no 1s listenin 2 u chupacabr king cos ur talkin out yer arse
Dante The Hunter
Dec 4 2005, 11:31 AM
QUOTE(Dark Link @ Dec 4 2005, 01:16 AM) [snapback]960365[/snapback]
A take back what i said about NONE of it being real since thers no way of me proving that its not but some of what u sed is just fiction made up by Stroud 4 his book.
and no 1s listenin 2 u chupacabr king cos ur talkin out yer arse
and id prefer it if u didnt insult people on my threads,'dark link' and the lets dance comment wasnt funny. u dont know wwere that crazy dud wif the poleis!!!
and sorry, chupa king, if u had any q. please repost and ill do my best. also i did read your post earlier and the info is appreciated
cerberus
Dec 4 2005, 01:09 PM
Thinking logically, where does a Djinn actually come from..?
I know nothing of Djinns, but my opinion of what i have seen and heard is that they are some kind of demonic spirit entity that can be summoned (rather like Ifrit from Final Fantasy), but at great risk to the human who does so.
They are also incredibly powerful and are not to be summoned.. they dont belong here.
Subtemperate
Dec 4 2005, 01:22 PM
Dark Link, flaming members is against our forum rules and regulations, so please cease from the personal jibing.
Please keep this thread on the subject at hand, and share information, rather then intolerance and impatience.
Dante The Hunter
Dec 4 2005, 08:31 PM
they dont belong here, it hurts them
Dante The Hunter
Dec 5 2005, 07:51 PM
is this thread dead???
Felhek
Dec 6 2005, 01:53 AM
What kind of wishes they can grant you?almost anything?I presume they should be very mad everytime you summon them,something like 'wtf!?what am i doing here!?not again! geez! hehehe.
do you know the correct form to invoke them?beyond the pentagram and the herbs, something else? what words would you use to call them? in any particular language?Do they understand any language?and their voice,sounds like a human or like a whisper or water.
Dante The Hunter
Dec 6 2005, 04:28 PM
yes, they are like'wtf'
and i believe u invoke them in ancient latin or czech.and you must spell out your wishes very carefully,as if the can misinterperat a wish, they will
Lilian
Dec 6 2005, 06:40 PM
i believe that Djinns exist , not only believe , i know they exist
this is the only supernatural thing that i know, i dont believe in aliens and stuff like that .
i and i can prove to you that djinn exist
djinns are unseen creatures who live among us, in houses and outside houses , they are male and female, sometime they can hurt people , they can come inside human body
and you can test yourself if you have djinns in your body
Chokmah
Dec 7 2005, 02:01 PM
QUOTE(Lilian @ Dec 6 2005, 06:40 PM) [snapback]964205[/snapback]
i believe that Djinns exist , not only believe , i know they exist
this is the only supernatural thing that i know, i dont believe in aliens and stuff like that .
i and i can prove to you that djinn exist
djinns are unseen creatures who live among us, in houses and outside houses , they are male and female, sometime they can hurt people , they can come inside human body
and you can test yourself if you have djinns in your body
hm, do you mean they can bring unknown illness'es to people? or physically hurt people. if its the second one, would that mean they have somthing in common with poltergists (SP?).
also, whats this test you can do?
just interested

this is pretty fasinating, I didn't know what a 'Djinni' was until someone referred to a genie, then I learnt 'Djinni' was an older spelling
Lilian
Dec 7 2005, 03:49 PM
hm, do you mean they can bring unknown illness'es to people? or physically hurt people. if its the second one, would that mean they have somthing in common with poltergists (SP?).
right
also, whats this test you can do?
do you want to try it, it does not hurt
vergel the shadower
Dec 7 2005, 07:34 PM
u do it regulary
Dante The Hunter
Dec 7 2005, 07:36 PM
QUOTE(vergel the shadower @ Dec 7 2005, 07:34 PM) [snapback]965866[/snapback]
u do it regulary
lol
gd one, but a gd question all the same
Chokmah
Dec 7 2005, 07:59 PM
QUOTE(Lilian @ Dec 7 2005, 03:49 PM) [snapback]965549[/snapback]
hm, do you mean they can bring unknown illness'es to people? or physically hurt people. if its the second one, would that mean they have somthing in common with poltergists (SP?).
right
also, whats this test you can do?
do you want to try it, it does not hurt
ahh, I'm confused. so which of my questions was right?
and try the test? sure if you tell me what the test is
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