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Ancile Angeli
Hello, I'm a sixteen year old Dutch girl, and since Juli, I've been seeing, hearing and feeling things. I'll explain.

When I'm lying in bed, trying to get to sleep, I have these voices in my head telling me their opinion about nothing and everything. If I have a problem that I didn't realize bothered me, they give me advice, positive or negative. Sometimes one screams at me, and others began to whisper so that I won't hear the voice that is screaming at me.

Is this just me or not? If not, should I listen to them?

Ok, another thing. Saturday evening I was walking with my boyfriend to this place where there was a Plug 'n Play party going on (Bands and all). So we were in discussion about if torture was useless or useful and all, when we round the corner and I suddenly stop mid-sentence because I saw a flash of a man standing merely a few feet away from me, staring at me, and when I looked again, there was nothing. My boyfriend asked me what was wrong and I informed him of what I saw. He said there had been nothing.

Is this just me going crazy or could this be something.. else?

I have these things frequently. There is a girl who I know without ever seeing her, but I'm guessing I know her from a previous life. She keeps flashing into my eye sight. Whenever I have my glasses on, I only see these.. well, people out of the corner of my eye and when I focus on them, they fade away quickly. When I'm not wearing my glasses, I can stare and stare and stare at them and they won't go until I ask them to. The only thing is, they're quite blurry then, and they're too far away, so I can barely make out their faces. They mostly come when I least expect them to, like the man that Saturday.

Also, I see faces in trees. Once there was this young tree and he seemed to be angry about something. He scared me a whole lot. Then another time, when I was walking around town with my boyfriend, the face in the tree, and old and wise looking face, smiled to me, but when my boyfriend said there's no such thing as faces in trees, the tree frowned and the face disappeared.

Is this normal? Does any of you have this?

31 October, Halloween, 10 pm exactly. I looked outside and I saw flashes of humanoid beings walking the streets. It freaked me out a whole lot, so much even that I closed the curtains.

I don't know. Am I mental? Or do I have a gift, like most people say? I really don't have a clue...

I have been to a psychologist with this matter, I also have a drawing of the things I've seen, but at the moment, a friend of the family, who is also quite spiritual, has it, for he wanted to see it. He looked at it and the first things he said was, "This is real. This is not her imagination."

So that scared me. I don't know what to do with it yet. Recently my 14-year-old brother confessed to me that he sees the girl from the Ring in his room, just standing there. The movie has never really interested him. But just to give him a shoulder to lean on, to take away a bit of his fear, I told him that if he sees her again, he should ask her, politely, to leave, again and again. If she doesn't, he just has to use his willpower to make her leave.

I also told him that if it freaks him out so much, he can sleep in my bed. We also have two cats, which I'm glad for. They say animals can feel these things stronger than people, so they're like, my warning bell. But nothing hasn't ever really set them off, whenever I did feel a presence in my room.

Does anyone has answers, about at least ONE of these things? Thank you..
Ancestralbone
Oh my, you have had quite an experience and one that does seem to be unpleasant to you. I am not sure that I can help but I usually start with making some guidelines to follow with such an experience. Your guidelines do not have to be like mine but here are some suggestions. First step I take is usually to begin a journal about what you are experiencing and especially how you feel. Second step is to try to research if you can and that is not always easy to do. You said you had drawings of these which could give you a lead to if they were real people. Also ask around to see if anyone has heard anything strange about the area you live in and check the Internet. This may help you determine whether it is you or not. I believe that such things can be paranormal but also can be in the minds eye. Since you have taken the step the see a psychologist that means you are taking steps to find out for sure. Third I would try to set up either a camera or tape recorder to see if it is a haunting. One last thing if you feel uncomfortable about listening to these voices do not do as they say. You should feel comfortable and I have a feeling if these are spirits those spirits are not friendly. Whether you are a person of faith or not does not matter when calling upon protection for you and your family. Call upon the white light to surround you and your family for protection from anything evil or bad. You will be in my prayers for protection and hoped that I was a bit of help to you. Take care and if you need to talk pm me anytime. original.gif
Ancile Angeli
Thank you. If it is a paranormal thing, I think it's passed down to me from my mum's side of the family. Her aunt is a medium.
Ancestralbone
Yes that is another thing to look into to see who in your family has a gift. Mine has been passed down through both sides of my family. I am empathic and believe me if I had a nickle for every time I thought I was crazy I would be a rich woman by now. But talking also helps and bringing it here to board you will find some help. Take Care,
Ancile Angeli
I know what you mean. I had a feeling about my brother being able to feel other people's feelings for a long time... I don't know how he experiences it, but people can't lie to him anymore about their feelings, it seems. Neither can I. He even helped solve a fight between me and my boyfriend a while back. He felt my rage at my boyfriend. He had burned his leg a few weeks before, and he used it as an excuse to keep my boyfriend away from me for the following 30 minutes.

I actually asked him, "Your leg didn't really hurt, did it?" and he truthfully shook his head.
Ancestralbone
Sounds like your brother is also empathic because I did the same to my sister and her boyfriends. She would ask me if he was going to turn out to be a jerk or not I would say without laying eyes on the guy. Several days later I got I hate you and my reply would be I was right, huh. I get this stare like yeah you smarty pants, innocent.gif but you might see if your brother is willing to talk about his experiences. It could help you both out.
Aroarer
have you evere herd of feding your paronoia (im not saying you are just a suggestion).this is when you arescared something will happen and you cant stop thinking about so your mind starts playing tricks on you.so my suggestion for you is tht the next time you see something you tell your self there s nothing there and you force yourself to believe it .it worked for me .i work nights in an empty place where no one go's and i thought i seen thing s so i told my self there was nothing there i believed this and now i dont notice anything i just get on with my job.
Boltwave
QUOTE(Ancile Angeli @ Dec 1 2005, 11:00 PM) [snapback]957508[/snapback]

Hello, I'm a sixteen year old Dutch girl, and since Juli, I've been seeing, hearing and feeling things. I'll explain.

When I'm lying in bed, trying to get to sleep, I have these voices in my head telling me their opinion about nothing and everything. If I have a problem that I didn't realize bothered me, they give me advice, positive or negative. Sometimes one screams at me, and others began to whisper so that I won't hear the voice that is screaming at me.

Is this just me or not? If not, should I listen to them?

Ok, another thing. Saturday evening I was walking with my boyfriend to this place where there was a Plug 'n Play party going on (Bands and all). So we were in discussion about if torture was useless or useful and all, when we round the corner and I suddenly stop mid-sentence because I saw a flash of a man standing merely a few feet away from me, staring at me, and when I looked again, there was nothing. My boyfriend asked me what was wrong and I informed him of what I saw. He said there had been nothing.

Is this just me going crazy or could this be something.. else?

I have these things frequently. There is a girl who I know without ever seeing her, but I'm guessing I know her from a previous life. She keeps flashing into my eye sight. Whenever I have my glasses on, I only see these.. well, people out of the corner of my eye and when I focus on them, they fade away quickly. When I'm not wearing my glasses, I can stare and stare and stare at them and they won't go until I ask them to. The only thing is, they're quite blurry then, and they're too far away, so I can barely make out their faces. They mostly come when I least expect them to, like the man that Saturday.

Also, I see faces in trees. Once there was this young tree and he seemed to be angry about something. He scared me a whole lot. Then another time, when I was walking around town with my boyfriend, the face in the tree, and old and wise looking face, smiled to me, but when my boyfriend said there's no such thing as faces in trees, the tree frowned and the face disappeared.

Is this normal? Does any of you have this?

31 October, Halloween, 10 pm exactly. I looked outside and I saw flashes of humanoid beings walking the streets. It freaked me out a whole lot, so much even that I closed the curtains.

I don't know. Am I mental? Or do I have a gift, like most people say? I really don't have a clue...

I have been to a psychologist with this matter, I also have a drawing of the things I've seen, but at the moment, a friend of the family, who is also quite spiritual, has it, for he wanted to see it. He looked at it and the first things he said was, "This is real. This is not her imagination."

So that scared me. I don't know what to do with it yet. Recently my 14-year-old brother confessed to me that he sees the girl from the Ring in his room, just standing there. The movie has never really interested him. But just to give him a shoulder to lean on, to take away a bit of his fear, I told him that if he sees her again, he should ask her, politely, to leave, again and again. If she doesn't, he just has to use his willpower to make her leave.

I also told him that if it freaks him out so much, he can sleep in my bed. We also have two cats, which I'm glad for. They say animals can feel these things stronger than people, so they're like, my warning bell. But nothing hasn't ever really set them off, whenever I did feel a presence in my room.

Does anyone has answers, about at least ONE of these things? Thank you..




You need spiritual help, allow me to evaluate this as a demonic haunting, I tell tons of people the same exact thing, what you need is a casting out of these demons, luckily I will be able to help you.
BigDaddy_GFS
Well, keep me up to date on this one, guys. Sounds like we've got a bona fide haunting.
mixxingmark
QUOTE(Boltwave @ Dec 1 2005, 09:19 PM) [snapback]957871[/snapback]

You need spiritual help, allow me to evaluate this as a demonic haunting, I tell tons of people the same exact thing, what you need is a casting out of these demons, luckily I will be able to help you.


hmm, how are you going to help her over the net? just curious.
Ancestralbone
QUOTE(mixxingmark @ Dec 1 2005, 09:29 PM) [snapback]957972[/snapback]

hmm, how are you going to help her over the net? just curious.



Me too! No offense boltwave but not everything is demonic in this world if it were all demonic the world would be off balanced.
Yelekiah
Don't take this the wrong way but there aren't too many people on here that can give you the proper advice (since you're on a forum). But I'll take a jab at it anyway. Go back to the psychologist, especially if they are a professional. Because you may have possible mental problems. But if all is well, then you can question the paranormal aspect of it. original.gif
Boltwave
QUOTE(mixxingmark @ Dec 2 2005, 04:29 AM) [snapback]957972[/snapback]

hmm, how are you going to help her over the net? just curious.



Easy, I know these things. wink2.gif
Boltwave
QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Dec 2 2005, 04:44 AM) [snapback]957995[/snapback]

Don't take this the wrong way but there aren't too many people on here that can give you the proper advice (since you're on a forum). But I'll take a jab at it anyway. Go back to the psychologist, especially if they are a professional. Because you may have possible mental problems. But if all is well, then you can question the paranormal aspect of it. original.gif




Ha, ha, that was funny, got anything else to throw at me?
Boltwave
QUOTE(Ancestralbone @ Dec 2 2005, 04:39 AM) [snapback]957986[/snapback]

Me too! No offense boltwave but not everything is demonic in this world if it were all demonic the world would be off balanced.



Your right, that's absouletly true, but anything that has a negative spiritual affect ( hearing voices and etc. ) is demonic, however you are right, there are holy things that happen in our world too, good things in fact.


Although, this is the difference, satan performs public miracles or "magic" for attention, God only performs miracles when neccesary.
Yelekiah
QUOTE(Boltwave @ Dec 2 2005, 12:21 AM) [snapback]958054[/snapback]

Ha, ha, that was funny, got anything else to throw at me?

Yea, start by not triple posting. yes.gif You can have multiple quotes in *one* post. Or at least use the edit button. wink2.gif It saves the mods work. Another thing, I was being serious. There are people with schizophrenia that see things. But if it all goes well with a professional as opposed to random people on a forum, like yourself, then she can question if she is experiencing something paranormal. Nothing wrong with that. original.gif
Boltwave
QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Dec 2 2005, 05:27 AM) [snapback]958065[/snapback]

Yea, start by not triple posting. yes.gif You can have multiple quotes in *one* post. Or at least use the edit button. wink2.gif It saves the mods work. Another thing, I was being serious. There are people with schizophrenia that see things. But if it all goes well with a professional as opposed to random people on a forum, like yourself, then she can question if she is experiencing something paranormal. Nothing wrong with that. original.gif



Yeah, but think about it this way, not all cases remain possession, but what is the brain? What powers the brain? Sure, it has it's electrical waves and circuits, but without the spirit it is powerless, much like a TV remote without batteries, it has all the stuff to work, it just needs power to work, much like the brain.


The brain is complicated that is true, but how do we know that the brain isn't affected spiritually? Can you answer this question of mine? I'm just curios to know. grin2.gif
Yelekiah
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but what is the brain? What powers the brain?

A computer made of meat; neurons, synapses, life, etc.
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Sure, it has it's electrical waves and circuits, but without the spirit it is powerless

If you haven't taken biology, I suggest you take it, if not re-take it.
QUOTE
The brain is complicated that is true, but how do we know that the brain isn't affected spiritually?

If we are all parts of the universe, then technically the brain is part of the universe. So if you were to believe in universal coincidences, or spirituality-whatever you want to call it, then yes, the brain is affected.
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I'm just curios to know

I have a better question. What's wrong with taking precautions on mental health before jumping to the conclusion that there is paranormal activity?
QueryAnalyzer
QUOTE(Boltwave @ Dec 2 2005, 01:33 AM) [snapback]958070[/snapback]

Yeah, but think about it this way, not all cases remain possession, but what is the brain? What powers the brain? Sure, it has it's electrical waves and circuits, but without the spirit it is powerless, much like a TV remote without batteries, it has all the stuff to work, it just needs power to work, much like the brain.
The brain is complicated that is true, but how do we know that the brain isn't affected spiritually? Can you answer this question of mine? I'm just curios to know. grin2.gif


Nobody can answer you that, but you can't assume the brain is affected spiritually.
I don't leave aside any of the two points of view. I just know we need more research
on the brain. The power of the mind is HUGE, we don't even have gotten to know all
of it...Just be patience, we might get a big surprise or not... wink2.gif
Boltwave
QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Dec 2 2005, 05:38 AM) [snapback]958075[/snapback]

A computer made of meat; neurons, synapses, life, etc.

If you haven't taken biology, I suggest you re-take it.

If we are all parts of the universe, then technically the brain is part of the universe. So if you were to believe in universal coincidences, or spirituality-whatever you want to call it, then yes, the brain is affected.

I have a better question. What's wrong with taking precautions on mental health before jumping to the conclusion that there is paranormal activity?



That avoided my question, your saying that the brain powers itself, if I'm not mistaken, but if the brain is a computer made of meat what exactly powers a computer? A computer can only go on for a period of time before shutting down without it's modem cable to keep it running, am I right?


There's nothing wrong with taking precautions on mental illness, you can ask TheThirdAngel, she came to me with her problems of seeing a giant lizard dressed as a priest, was that a demon, or just her imagination? Personally, I don't consider that spiritual, but I wouldn't say that she is crazy, I would tell her she has a creative mind, and the mind is powered by the spirit, plain and simple.
Yelekiah
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That avoided my question, your saying that the brain powers itself, if I'm not mistaken

You are mistaken, because I said life. Re-read my post.
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I wouldn't say that she is crazy, I would tell her she has a creative mind

I didn't accuse anyone of being crazy. I suggested that she seek a professional to be on the safe side. They would certainly give better advice than either you or me.
Boltwave
QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Dec 2 2005, 05:48 AM) [snapback]958083[/snapback]

You are mistaken, because I said life. Re-read my post.

I didn't accuse anyone of being crazy. I suggested that she seek a professional to be on the safe side. They would certainly give better advice than either you or me.




I wasn't saying you were accusing her of being crazy, I was simply stating in general that I wouldn't say she is mental, I would just say that she has a creative spirit that manifests itself, but most of the time it can involve something from within the outer and external spirit such as demons.


Biology can only go into scientific explanations, it can go on about life and creation but it never states anything about the spirit, I don't care what anyone says, even if I get flamed for it.

Yelekiah
I mentioned biology because you asked me about the brain. Spirituality is another matter, and I can go into that if you'd like. But the "spirit" does not give power to the brain. The brain, however, may be affected *by* the spirit.
Boltwave
QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Dec 2 2005, 05:57 AM) [snapback]958091[/snapback]

I mentioned biology because you asked me about the brain.



Alright then, that's understandable yes.gif
Ancile Angeli
QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Dec 2 2005, 06:27 AM) [snapback]958065[/snapback]

Yea, start by not triple posting. yes.gif You can have multiple quotes in *one* post. Or at least use the edit button. wink2.gif It saves the mods work. Another thing, I was being serious. There are people with schizophrenia that see things. But if it all goes well with a professional as opposed to random people on a forum, like yourself, then she can question if she is experiencing something paranormal. Nothing wrong with that. original.gif


The woman I went to, she was quite professional. She said that it could hardly be an actual disorder (Psychotic, schizo, etc). Either these are my fears (Which I kind of doubt myself, since I've seen good, calming things too), but I'll keep an open mind to everything.

As for Boltwave, not to bash your belief, but I think they're right. Not everything is demonic. Personally I don't believe in God nor Satan, or any other being, but I do believe in demons, entities and spirits. Everything I've told you, it wasn't everything. I couldn't tell you everything, because it's too much. But most of them are things that calm me. I also subconciously projected "energy shields", as you will, on my ceiling, door, walls, floor, ect. I think it happened because I allow no one in my room without my permission..
Yelekiah
I'm glad that she was a professional. But be careful with beliefs. Because you're the one that gives power to them. original.gif
ADbox
You know i usually read things with an open mind. But I thing this is a literary work.

just my opinion.
Ancestralbone
QUOTE(Boltwave @ Dec 1 2005, 10:24 PM) [snapback]958060[/snapback]

Your right, that's absouletly true, but anything that has a negative spiritual affect ( hearing voices and etc. ) is demonic, however you are right, there are holy things that happen in our world too, good things in fact.
Although, this is the difference, satan performs public miracles or "magic" for attention, God only performs miracles when neccesary.


There is no proof that all voices we hear are demonic nor have a negative spiritual affect. Until someone shows me proof beyond a reasonable doubt you cannot convince me and I guess the same goes for you.
Ourmoonlitsun
QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Dec 2 2005, 04:44 AM) [snapback]957995[/snapback]

Don't take this the wrong way but there aren't too many people on here that can give you the proper advice (since you're on a forum). But I'll take a jab at it anyway. Go back to the psychologist, especially if they are a professional. Because you may have possible mental problems. But if all is well, then you can question the paranormal aspect of it. original.gif

Follow Yelekiah's advice first. Schizophrenia (and I'm not saying that is what this is) is different for each individual that it effects. I would find it hard to believe that the specialist you go to has lost ideas about how to help you. Also, you mentioned that you hear voices when you are trying to go to sleep. This is actually common for some people. Before sleep occurs, people will begin to hallucinate but since they are in a dreamlike state of minimal consciousness, they don't notice it. However, some people are more attuned to notice these hallucinations. They are simply an aspect of the mind's process as it shifts into sleep. Now, if your sleep is being greatly disturbed because of this that could be related to the other things you are experiencing throughout the day, such as glimpses of people not there, which is a common aspect of sleep deprivation. Along with the paranoia that something is happening to you, your tired mind could be dealing with some serious stress. I highly suggest continuing to talk to a mental health provider, for if nothing else, they are really good at listening and allowing your mind to unravel it's problems, which it might not be able to fully do at night.
Ancile Angeli
Yes. I might do that. Thank you.

Btw, do any of you believe dreamcatchers work? Because mine doesn't seem to do its work properly. IF I dream, it's always of my death, or the death of a family member or something.

I once dreamt that I sacrificed my own life to safe that of my boyfriend's, and I actually felt the knife going into my stomach, and I felt the pain, but I felt happy..?
Ancestralbone
She never stated she stopped seeing her pyschologist but she also wanted to find out if others had the same experience. I hope that was not offensive but please do forgive me if it had. I feel it took courage to even go the the pyschologist in the first place and now she just needs to explore all options. original.gif
Ancile Angeli
Teeheehee ^^" The suggestion of my boyfriend, his mother and my mother. It hadn't even been my own idea, but I wish these appointments can hurry up, so that there is a logical explaining for my sightings.

Plus, I need to talk to my mum's aunt..
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