I just registered here at your cool forum, and very much like what i see around these parts. I like to go out whenever possible and videotape orbs, starcraft and other anomalies that would make a person's head spin. But in my quest to wake people up to the bare minimum, ChemTrails, i've found that generally they can't be bothered or are plainly too small minded to comprehend something larger and much more vast than the meager human race. Things in the world are picking up at an alarming rate, as if the rapture is upon us or something.

All i know is: If what i'm taping is from the government, we're being decieved to such an extent that it will mean our own demise, as the technologies that power these craft and orbs, could easily save us from our spend and consume ways. Our own pollution.
OR
These craft are from another world or realm, which to some may seem swell, but to most others it would mean that the government has either been covering it up, or is in on the alien agenda. Or they're defenseless to protect us from these "visitors".

AnyHoo...how do ya's all do, and i'm the new guy here to share with you what i find in my encounters in the night....and day too. lol

Welcome Aboard Sky Watcher

Whew, you just jumped in with both feet, didn't ya? Good for YOU!
While I contemplate your query, may I ask?
Is the image you included, that of Columbia?

Good Morning and Thank You For The Welcome.
The pic is of a Chem Jet, Spraying a trail...but it's invisible. Taken from a video tape, but still quite clear to show that they aren't visible to the human eye at all times. Just like the orbs and other odd things up there.

Once i get settled in here, i'll probably be posting pics of all sorts of southern Alberta UFO's. It's an AMAZING hobby, to say the least. lol

Welcome aboard Sky watcher .

I promise to check out your post more thouroughly(and my spell checker) when I'm not just about to duck off toi work .

Enjoy your stay ...

Hi, and welcome SkyWatcher !

Intresting post!

Moved to the Government Conspiracies sub-forum and changed topic's title...

To Clarify a bit more on the pic.
I figured there would be a bit more opposition to the pic being of a chemjet spraying while cloaked. But in plain sight on the Hi8 video tape, it's not a jet that's doing the spraying...it's an Orb. It cloaks and uncloaks while spraying and the spray pattern isn't 3 trails, but 4, in a box pattern. I have never seen a plane or jet that has such a wing formation to accomplish such a trail layout.
Plus this is only one of hours and hours of orbs that i've taken personally with the HandyCam. All i can say for sure is that they're some amazing little craft, wherever they're from. (i tend to lean towards the world powers that be)

This is why forums such as this are priceless nowadays. We can post pics, and get feedback from across the planet on theories about what these things could be....or leads to catch the culprits in the act.

Here's a rendition of the orb sprayer that i did for a friend to show him a possibiltity why the pattern is a box form, and why there isn't anything seen spraying it. Then he seen the video again, and can see it clearly now.

That is a very intresting PIC!

I"m sure you don't mind if some the forum users analyse it a bit. Were used to photo shop subsitutes and are quick to debunk anything. Some of the folks here (althalus and such) will have no problems figuring it out.

If all turns out ok.... Mind if i ask which part of Alberta, and when was it taken?

p.s welcome to the forum.

Hey Thanks Mystify!

Sure you all can do all your analysis things you do, as i'm positive that there's some BRILLIANT people here.
The pic is a still capture from a Sony Hi8 HandyCam, taken roughly last February facing the south sky from Southern Alberta. It was lower than normal air traffic, and made not a sound, but sure plugged up the sky in a big way with gooey clouds.
The temp. outside was cold cold cold, and the sky was clear before our little friend showed up. It travelled at 10% of what a normal jet would....real slow across the sky...almost like the thing defied gravity, as there didn't seem to be enough momentum to keep it aloft.
This type of sprayer is common here, and nearly every sprayday you can catch at least one of these things.

Pretty cool, huh?

Chem-Trails, what is up with that crap? Its just *ahem* what i call Goverment Clouds!

I’m glad someone has finally found out the truth about these pesky chemtrails. How anyone could have mistaken them to be vapour trails from airplanes is beyond me, when it is now blindly obvious that it is not even a government conspiracy, but an alien conspiracy!

I’m confused as to why the orb spraying these trails cloaks AND uncloaks. Maybe it doesn’t have enough Ununpentium to power the spraying mechanism, fly and remain cloaked at the same time! Or maybe it WANTS to be seen!

Okay, just my two cents, but it could, ever so possibly be...

Swamp Gas Refracting the light from Venus?

No?

Okay, that was just for humor anyway. But in all honesty, it looks like it could possibly military jets flying in close formation. Since these planes are usually painted an off white color anyway, and considering they are several miles up, it's really only natural that they would appear to be invisible. In other words, just an optical illusion. I have, afterall, seen 747 leaving contrails behind them.

Just my opinion.

hi, i live in alberta to more specificaly any way, why the hell would you cloak a plane that is spraying out hugly visible clouds of vapour, does that not defeat the purpose of a cloaking device, sorry fellow canadian but your post is a bunch of bull, do you think we are dumb? look at the pic first of all the resolution on the background image significantly differnt then this orb you explain, and the arms that appear to be emmiting the vapour dont exaclty match up with the trails, couldent you have blured the orb a little to make it look slightly authentic?, and would you mind telling me where you took this picture, im from southern alberta too, oh and notice how he smeared the area surounding the orb to to mix it in better, i can tell yout good with photo shop

Hey there Uranium_235

The orb with the "wings" in the pic, is a photoshop job i did on it to point it out to a freind. It's totally fake, i thought i'd stated that it's for visual aid purposes. The only thing that showed up in the pic was the trails. That's all.
Sounds a bit far fetched that something would be cloaked to spray right over our heads, doesn't it? That's why i'm on the forum...for input.
So how come i can go out on ANY spray day, and capture these things with a digital camcorder? How come i can see a jet spraying a trail in one direction, and at the same altitude from the other direction, something that can't be seen is spraying? And why when they cross in the sky over my head, can i still see one and not the other?...even though the cloaked craft is closer than the jet. And why is there an orb clearly visible spraying trails in hours of tape that i have shot myself?
I'm searching for answers. Maybe you should come down to Lethbridge and we'll go out hunting for a few hours some day. I have all the gear, but another body would be nice.
I'm sure it will shake the foundations of your reality.

SkyWatcher, I don't understand why you find four closely spaced contrails so mysterious. If you look at the image below, you'll see that a four engine jet aircraft will produce such a contrail. While the image below was taken from directly beneath the aircraft, your image appears to be very similar, although at a much greater angle and from slightly behind the plane.

Just for the fun of it, I decided to take out the jet in order to see what the image would look like,

Disclaimer: I am not attempting to, nor accusing any one of perpetrating a hoax.

lethbridge eh...been there a few times, so you say that this occure regularly?and are plainly visible in the sky? and no one else has reported it?

I forgot to add this in my last post:
In your picture it does appear that they are in a box formation, but now that i have seen Exeters pic (now know it is possible for a plane not to appear in a photo) is it no possible that an engine was running perhaps at a higher temp so the vapour had to be in the air longer to condense making it look as if it were on top?

I'll somehow have to get a still from the video tape to show how the trails are in a box pattern, as it's clearly defined in the mild rotation of the orb as it travels and turns. It also shows the difference in the jet and the orb in spray nozzel patterns, trail formation, and flightspeed. Also in the video, i'm filming the orb for awhile in relative silence, when the jet speeds in, making a ton of noise, and clearly moving at at least 5 times the rate of the orb.

An orb like in this pic i found today.

Or like this one......

WELL WELL WELL....CHEMTRAILS......IS THIS A NEW THING I.E IN THE LAST TEN YEARS...BECAUSE I CAN REMEMBER AN ADVERT ON TV IN SCOTLAND ABOUT A BANK AND IT WAS 2 AEROPLANES FLYING IN A CROSS FORMATION....THAT'S 747 TYPES MAKING A ST ANDREWS CROSS STYLE...IN THE LATE SEVENTIES...AND WE USED TO SEE THESE VAPOUR/CHEM TRAILS ALL THE TIME....IS IT PARANIONA OR HAVE THEY BEEN AT IT FOR A YEARS,,PERFECTING THE BEST AIRBORNE CONRACEPTIVE AGENT....EXCUSE THE SPELLING..LOL

"ChemTrails" have been around since the 40's or even earlier. It was initially a radar enhancement program, but eventually led into the fringe stuff, like mind control, population control, ozone repair,...even as far fetched as "doping" the atmosphere to accomodate holographic imaging by sinister forces known as the New World Order.
ChemTrails are based on research by Nikoli Tesla, generally electromagnetics and zero point energy, which was confiscated by the government the moment he died. No one has ever been able to look into what he was working on when he passed on.
Russia is the leader in this area, with the rest of the world powers lumped into second place. All United Nation countries experience chemtrails regularly.

The grid patterns they spray are thought to be for radar/monitoring purposes, and consist of dry particle discharge...., but the clouds, rings, goop, and particulate consist of everything from aluminum, magnesium and sulpher, to red blood cells and other ORGANIC elements. Surely not a radar apparatus, one would think.


(photo from web)

Good day Uranium_235, how goes the heat wave?

I don't know how connected Lethbridge is with the NWO, but i do know that in the foothills of the mountains there are "bases" guarded by troops with guns, and the signs say that you'll be shot on sight without any question. There are numerous bases like this in the foothills west of Claresholm, with watchtowers, quansites and hangars that lead underground. The only visible attribute is the entrance, or the venting stacks that can be seen among clearcuts or hill sides.

I've seen the grid patterns over Lethbridge, Pincher Creek, Calgary, Drumheller, Claresholm/Granum, and many times out near the Alberta/ Saskatchewan border. Mainly it's Lethbridge, as that's where i live and am at most of the time, But the sprays are always upwind of populated areas. Upwind enough that the downward disipation of the trail, plus the wind would lead it right up a person's nostrils by the time it hit ground level.
Maybe it's the same type thinking as taking barium before an xray. Maybe we breathe this stuff in, and it gets into our blood, making us tre' easy to track from above with a cellular scanner or something like that.

A video you say? I'd be glad to make one up on chemtrails only, OR get to you a copy of of one that i have already that has the full gamut of goodies to wonder about until your head hurts. lol. It's up to you how you want to get it to you.

That goes for anyone else here.

This is how i do it. I used to collect vhs movies, and tape my own movies from the tv. Nowadays i take the vhs tapes and record over them, and give them out for free. I tape Alex Jones' Road To Tyranny on one tape, and then my chem/ufo stuff on the second tape, and leave these two tape sets around town in restraunts, change rooms, etc.
That way i'm still anonymous and the message gets out.

Considering that most government while testing new technologies will want to keep them out of sight and away from the public have a good idea about putting them under mountains. They have the right to defend those secrets with full force to make sure the technology doesn't fall into the wrong hands. What if there is no conspiracy behind chamtrails and that they are a diversion something else that may be more heinous to the human population? Considering that I live within a hundred miles of 2 airports and possibly a third there are planes that flyby over head leaving the contrails from their exhaust.

*sigh*

SkyWatcher, I'm having a little trouble with the lack of continuity in your posts. First you claim:

Thanks for the feedback Exeter.
Oops yes i see where things are messed up. At the time of the post i was editing from the camera to vhs machine, and probably was thinking of it being a jet, as i'd seen alot of it in the last 10 hours or more, each day for the last few days. There's quite a few video clips of both craft spraying, and i got them confused somehow. No doubt i was running on autopilot at the time.

Pic #2 is the negative mode shots from the camera.
At this point the Orb "forms" entirely, in a ball of white light as it continues spraying the trails. Note at 4:11:33 that the light is so white and bright that it is creating a star glare from it's intensity. At 4:11:42 the orb is completely formed, and fully visible as such. See the side jets for the trails?

Pic #3 is a couple of normal color shots, showing the silver Orb spraying three trails. You can even see the shadows on the trails and the orb itself, giving us all a clear view of it's structure.

I still fail to see a jet anywhere though.

What do you think?

Your argument was that the orbs have four 'appendages' that leave a "boxed trail" behind them. Pics #1 - 2 show what appears to be several objects flying (falling?) closely together. Pic #3 does appear to be a single object, but the 'orb' is not as clear as you claim it is. I agree with Bloated Corpse that these three pics may be shots of falling debris. With your permission I would like to download these images and enhance them to see if I can detect any more detail.

You've obviously taken video of something in the sky. I'd still like to see that video. Stills are too easy to dismiss. Here are some links that may help you distribute your video while maintaining your anonymity.

Link 1

Link 2

Hello
this is somthing i have just started hearing about over here in the uk..
i allways assumed that these trails were just residue from some kind of jet engine.
We do have them here in the uk but they dont seem as thick as your us/can ones.
I would really like to see these videos and know a couple of people who could anylise them in more detail - one being a commercial aircraft designer and one an air traffic controller for the last 30 years. If they dont know more about this subject then who does?!!? I would like to see them before i/ my friends make any real comment.

You have refered several times to 'spray days'. Does this mean the trails appear on set days or follow some kind of timetable? i hope you are keeping tabs of dates/times for thier appearance.

Also you refered to the contents of the trails, what is your source of information regarding this?

cheers

somthing i have noticed is that evrybody seems to hav athsma these days, and loads of people hav hay fever and other assorted allergys.

I saw on the news the other day that hayfever in the uk has risen 800% in the last 15 years and the system is finding it hard to cope..

could this be related? i personally just put it down to the crappy food we eat and the general pollution...

Could it also be caused by the particulates that are being pumped into the atmosphere from power plants and vehicles? Maybe if we cleaned up the air first maybe people could breath better.

yeah, thats what i meant by general pollution innit